The Wisdom (Or lack thereof) of Meyer...

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The Wisdom (Or lack thereof) of Meyer...

Postby Meyer » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:56 pm

Anyone tempted to complain, flame, disagree or, for that matter, agree with the following should read the disclaimers first.

Disclaimer 1: The author claims no knowledge whatsoever on the subjects he is discussing. Any resemblance between reality and what is written here is only a fluke.

Disclaimer 2: The author makes no claim of any competence whatsoever (But accepts claims of total incompetence) on any subject he is discussing.

After 9 months of various failed attempts to achieve any competence at RTCW, I nevertheless have decided there are some issues I would like to address:

1. Class
There is almost no class on this server. So, what is this class thing? It's what your parents should have taught you when you were little boys and girls (Well, as far as I'm concerned, you're still all (With maybe the exceptions of Bubba and Tunl) little boys and girls, but that's another story...).
1. Don't rub it in. I assure you, the losing side knows they're getting destroyed. It just adds bitterness do rub it in. Attempting to skull the allies and ganging up on them is just so 3rd gradish... Grow up.
2. Even the teams. Only the old folks and some admins switch teams to even up. C'mon grow up. If a team is 4 down, even up. Shouldn't even have to be discussed. This also goes for team stacking. If all the "good" players are on one team, shouldn't they split up? Nah, that would be fair and they couldn't brag... If you're "really" good, your presence on the other team should help make the teams fair. If you stack, you're just showing you have no class and you're not interested in fairness, just stat inflation, which means shit. (Sure the Yankees would love to play the Royals every game but that's not the way of the world...)
3. Don't cheat. Now I admit I haven't got a clue on this, but there do seem to be individuals who are just too good. If you have to cheat to be the best, you're just the best cheater. That's all...
4. Names. If you keep changing names daily or weekly, that means you don't want people to know who you are. When I worked for the Department of Justice, we called this kind of thing Evidence of Criminal Intent.
5. Flag-grabbing. On this one I have to disagree with conventional wisdom. If sitting on the bench behind axis spawn killing peeps is OK, what's the problem with grabbing the flag? It's called tactics. If you can get away with it, go for it. Allies just have to guard the flag.

2. Tactics
People seem to be totally clueless when it comes to tactics. Some suggestions:
1. Numbers count. If 6 guys watch 1 guy attack (And die) and then another attacks (And dies) ad infinitum, you aint never gettin anywhere. If you see somebody attack give it 2 secs (So you don't get caught up in the same nade or panzer) then attack, then another guy, etc. 6 guys charging up the stairs have a chance. 1 doesn't.
2. Reinforce success. If somebody grabs the docs, or makes it to upper, or clears the murder hole. CHARGE. The defenders have to deal with the situation and numbers count. Especially with the docs. Why do I grab the docs at the start of the game? To win? HAH! Not a chance. No, it's to draw off the axis. But you morons never get the hint. If there are 4 or 5 Axis running to basement, that's 4 or 5 less to fight.
3. Use your talents and skills wisely. Randomely popping nades in windows or sniping (generally) is either useless or counter-productive.
4. You only need one med to revive and giving med packs to other meds when they're standing around is just point whoring. Same goes with LTs giving 5 ammo packs to a med one after another.
Silliest thing is to see one dead body and 4 meds run to revive simultaneous while one enemy kills them all. If you see another med go to revive, guard them.

In general, my congrats to the admins who do the best they can, I think. The job sucks...

Oh, and finally, I've said it in game and I'll repeat it here. Killing Meyer is no emblem of success. I'm the ultimate bullet and grenade magnet, I'm old, arthritic and mostly deaf. Nevertheless, I have the reflexes of a 50 year old. If you can't kill me easily, you suck. If I kill you in a one-one it's generally just luck.

Now, read the disclaimers again and flame away. See if I give a shit...
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Re: The Wisdom (Or lack thereof) of Meyer...

Postby Noobimus » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:02 pm

I kinda agree with you on some issues here but this isn't clan battles or tournaments this is just fun games sure you win and lose some, don't worry about it. Thats why we call it Beach 24/7 :]

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Re: The Wisdom (Or lack thereof) of Meyer...

Postby =CaK= YoShI » Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:26 pm

Playing a game and having fun doesn't mean you must ignore the basics tactics.
Keep trying to win ...

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Re: The Wisdom (Or lack thereof) of Meyer...

Postby W0lfy » Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:36 pm

Wow man it's a pub.
You honestly expect to find class in an online public server? Every pub server I've ever seen in any game has shit talkers, cheaters, lamers. Some game's communities are far worse than ECGN.

1. Do rub it in. It's a computer game.
2. Even teams is fine, but don't cry when your team is getting raped and half your team leaves mid round. Wait until the round is over. As for stacking that's the admin's job to fix that. I have never seen MoFo Remedy and Trail play on opposing sides.
3. Haven't seen anyone cheat other than that YouTube video. All I see are noobs like *SpY*BlackHawk and RU Headshot crying cheats every time they get killed.
4. Why are you comparing the DoJ to an online game? People alias for different reasons and any aliased player can be found by looking up their GUID. If you should be upset about anything it's people who get new CD keys constantly.
5. I completely agree with you on flag grabbing. It's part of the game. Allies spawn is 1/3 of what it normally should be so don't bitch about the flag when you spawn every 10 seconds. However what is gay is the bug when a player joins Axis and spawns in forward bunker. Why is this not fixed?

As for tactics all I can say is the server population needs to learn how to sprint, how to do the forward bunker jump correctly, stop the detrimental nade spam, and stop being pussies and learn how to rush.
But I'm a realist and know these things will never happen.

So my advice is to just play and when you're getting frustrated by retards just talk shit or tk them.

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Re: The Wisdom (Or lack thereof) of Meyer...

Postby Twitch » Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:11 pm

Meyer wrote:

Epiphany



Now all you have to do is realize why none of that is ever going to happen and your journey will be complete. Then you will be where everyone else was several years ago. Congratulations.

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Re: The Wisdom (Or lack thereof) of Meyer...

Postby Macabre » Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:27 pm

I have always been a late night gamer and always found the server, latenight, to be totally different from the day crowd. Not sure why this is but I've been known to praise the latenighters for the tough competition and alot less fighting/bitching. Maybe it's because there are less peeps so it's less frustrating?

I remember back in the early days, running my own clan, we would look for good shooters. Most all the things you mentioned we felt could be trained. Some guys would get mad after you would spec them for awhile, tell them they had a good shot but their decision making needed work. I would tell them though that's where the clan comes in. In saying all this I see two reasons that possibly make players make bad decisions. 1. They have never been in a clan and/or didn't get the proper "training" if they were in one. Don't get me wrong, most this stuff is common sense if you use your head. 2. They gave up that "competition" mode long ago and now just try to have fun, which IMO there is nothing wrong with.

On a side note, I ran into an old clan mate the other day I had not seen in many years. He told me how much he learned from us back in the day about proper play with others and strats. He also said how great he was with nades right from the get go when he started playing cod4. (I was the nade guy that everyone else in clan tried to learn from).

Anyway, I mention this because IMO it reinforces my earlier comments. In the end, with any game, you will have people that you think are dumb and can't play worth a shit. Try to find what is fun for you in the game your playing and play that way. If fun for you requires others to be smart and play well you may just be shit out of luck. :)

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Re: The Wisdom (Or lack thereof) of Meyer...

Postby Unsobering » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:07 pm

As far as the flag grabbing goes...Fine. If you spawned axis side and make it down to get the flag then go for it.


In my opinion if you late joined axis and spawn at the flag then leave it alone. It's a glitch and you shouldn't be there in the first place.

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Re: The Wisdom (Or lack thereof) of Meyer...

Postby Nubz » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:28 am

Video games = this era's playground. Get used to the bullies or beat them.

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Re: The Wisdom (Or lack thereof) of Meyer...

Postby Macabre » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:17 pm

Yeah I never touch flag on a late join. Alot more fun to quickly get on top of fb and put two to the back of the head of that first unsuspecting Allie that runs out. :ar15:

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Re: The Wisdom (Or lack thereof) of Meyer...

Postby PappaBoner » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:04 pm

:censor: haxors.
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Re: The Wisdom (Or lack thereof) of Meyer...

Postby Unsobering » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:53 pm

Macabre wrote:Yeah I never touch flag on a late join. Alot more fun to quickly get on top of fb and put two to the back of the head of that first unsuspecting Allie that runs out. :ar15:


Yeah, right. We both know you can't make the jump exiting forward bunker! :ar15:

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Re: The Wisdom (Or lack thereof) of Meyer...

Postby picmip » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:08 pm

Nubz wrote:Video games = this era's playground. Get used to the bullies or beat them.



Was going to post something like this, beat me to it.. now beat my dick heh:censor:

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Re: The Wisdom (Or lack thereof) of Meyer...

Postby Nubz » Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:09 am

picmip wrote:Was going to post something like this, beat me to it.. now beat my dick heh:censor:


You have a dick?? Holy news flash! :eek::evil:

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Re: The Wisdom (Or lack thereof) of Meyer...

Postby Milk » Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:13 pm

That all makes senseto me, unfortunately a small percentage of players will never ever value fair play and sportmanship. Barring a physical means of reaqquainting them with reality. I am reduced to chat slander, doesnt solve the problem , but does make me feel better :)
But good or bad I have to thank them for showing up and giving me someone to play the game against.


Tactics.
An early doc grab to pull the defense to WR is a favorite of mine. Another trick on top of that is to drop the docs in a wall, so that even if I'm killed, the docs are still "out there" :)

To be honest adapting strategy is the only , "new" fun I still find in the game. Finding new solutions to problems. For instance breaking a solid upper defense.

1. A/S them to were they are more conservative in lives, ( most A/S kills get the bonus of gib), and are forced to retreat.

2. Snipe the edges, preventing the "rain of fire" on stairs / to trench.


3. Push short and then piss them off with a call of "Got Docs?" , just before you grab them :clap:

ggzs all ty

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Re: The Wisdom (Or lack thereof) of Meyer...

Postby Gamb » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:28 am

It all comes down to your perception of the game and at the end of the day it is too bad more of there parents did not use contraception, but just like their kids they are irresponsible .

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