b is for ban and ban is for me

by **Slaughter1** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:58 pm

wow just got into this thread, I'm am getting nothing from all of this bitching and whining.....who is the senor admin on beach..........please control your admins in a public forum, and I think its time for a change in the admin status of some of regulars players, I'm the boss at my job and damn you are fired

Go ahead flame away...if you do I will not respond....I play by the rulez of the beach enuff said

by **aphid** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:58 pm

Originally posted by Keekanoo
Why am I a liar Aphid? Errr.... or do you mean Savant? We only recently got Team-speak for admins--certainly not at the time with the Redrum incident. I recall talking with

....

Racism isn't tolerated. Period. Anyone who wants me to support someone so quickly after they've made racist remarks is immediately not in my good books. Call me weird, but like drift to like.

You know I was calling you the liar so don't try to act all confused like you do not know what I am talking about. Anyways, I had to goto work but you can read Nofx's post above mine as to why you are a liar.

Once again, no one said that the guy did not deserve to get banned if he was being racist. His friend was not being racist and most likely Redrum was not Struckdown. You had no proof. You didn't check it. You just got mad and kicked him for no reason. This is exactly the thing we have been saying for quite awhile now.

Originally posted by Keekanoo
If you're intent on posting transcripts, why not post the thousands of elaborate, patient, careful treatment of thousands of offenders?

So you're saying that you may abuse your powers at times but that is offset by the fact that you treat some other players with respect?

by **Killer Mike** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:38 pm

Originally posted by Nofx

Oh, and someone told me you can convert tga to jpg using Photoshop.

Also, just a useful tip

/bind f11 screenshotjpeg

or /screenshotjpeg

Makes it a whole lot easier.

by **Keekanoo** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:00 am

I go WAAaaayyy out of my way not to abuse the position, Aphid, regardless of what you'd like to imply.

Sure I'm human and get riled upon occasion. I definately try very hard to control it. There are slip-ups. No, I don't think the Red-rum incident was one of those. Notice the 'don't be jerks' part of my post. What does that imply? These guys have a history of being jerks on the server.

The Admins at the Beach are doing a fine job. Sure it isn't perfect, but we're trying hard to be a good team that works together to resolve things efficently and fairly for all.

Instead of scraping the bottom of a barrel for any tiny infraction you can find, why not for once enjoy the free server that you like so much and respect the people who put in so much volunteer time ensuring you and everyone else has a relatively good experience.

I'm not above criticism. If you have legitimate beefs, bring them up with me.

by **DocTrebor** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:48 am

Oh wow, you're in prelaw? Big deal, you've taken a couple classes about law in college, and now you're a law hotshot who requires proof for everything?

Just merely telling you where I derived my original statement from, didn't think you would get all cynical/personal about it. I never said I was a hotshot, you did. Would you rather me leave out the predicate and make myself look like a shit talker who doesn't know shit about the law? Sry bro, not gonna happen. Feel free to cut this post into pieces to turn it against me in an attempt to relinquish your teen angst, its ok.

And Slaughter has a point... I also play by the rules, so nuff' said.

by **aphid** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:59 am

Originally posted by Keekanoo
Sure I'm human and get riled upon occasion. I definately try very hard to control it. There are slip-ups. No, I don't think the Red-rum incident was one of those. Notice the 'don't be jerks' part of my post. What does that imply? These guys have a history of being jerks on the server.

Really? I had only seen that Redrum fellow once or twice but never noticed him doing anything wrong. What exactly was he doing that warrented that kick? You're fairly ban happy on most days. Amazing that he was being a jerk that long and you had not banned him yet. It seems you just keep coming up with more and more reasons as to why he was kicked that day for seemingly nothing. Also, what slip ups are you talking about there, Keekee? I'd just like to know what you consider a slip up if you do not consider what was posted as one.

Instead of scraping the bottom of a barrel for any tiny infraction you can find, why not for once enjoy the free server that you like so much and respect the people who put in so much volunteer time ensuring you and everyone else has a relatively good experience.

This is not the bottom of the barrell. This type of incident happens at least twice a week. Too bad I can't control Nofx or I'd make him post all the things he has seen. A single problem is not that big of a deal but when he has as much stuff as he does, it turns into a big deal. When you attack people whom I consider friends, I get a bit mad especially when it is for petty little things simply because you do not like them. Don't give me that volunteer crap either. You admin the server for yourself and not the people who play there. I have said this before and I'll say it again, you want to turn the server into Keekanoo's 24/7 Beach server. You were removed once for your inability to control yourself and the direction you were taking the server. Why you were put in this position again is beyond me.

I'm not above criticism. If you have legitimate beefs, bring them up with me.

In your mind you are. Everytime you are proved to be doing something wrong you halt the discussion with this tripe response. So sad that you can't be a man and admit your wrong doing.

by **Nofx** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:42 am

Its funny, you guys are getting all defensive, but Savant was the one requesting screenshots. Sorry, didn't mean to cause such an uproar. Did not intend for this into a big shouting match. You're right, lets just all enjoy the free server. Haha, we're pretty lucky we don't have to pay for our computer game of choice, unlike some of those mmorpg'ers out there.

Anyways, later I'll post the screenies that I said earlier, cuz it looks like some people are interested. But don't take it as a personal attack, and I probably won't post any more, unless requested. :beer:

by **^wo0t** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:45 am

Originally posted by =DocTrebor=
NoFx, not to keep the stone throwing contest going, but I'm sure youre smart enough to understand that unless you take a screenshot no one will believe that this is the complete and uneditied "script" of what occured that day. Bias on your part can easily be proven and this is in no way authentic. I can very well compose the same exact story but with pieces either added or missing thus changing its tone completely. So unless you can provide hard substantial proof that can even begin to corroborate your claims, shut it.

WOW. Nofx is obviously adressing the admins in question as they are fully aware of what they've done, he doesn't necessarily have anything to prove to you. Oh wait, I forgot you are an 'admin assistant' right? Like when you told me last week that you were doing a favor for TT-cyborg as he was off doing his algebra homework...Thats right, you were yelling at "crymson" (one whom I've witnessed play a very clean game on this and other servers) for accidently ff'n on the doc carrier. Then threating people on the server w/ bans and kicks as though you were an admin though you lack any sort of admin power. I'm sure the rest of the admins appreciate your self appointed position as the pseudo beach police.

Then you throw words like 'peon' around and when i call you out on being a noob, you state that most regs would rate you as one that could hold your own. Thats pretty funny that you get into the server and immediately start talking shit as if you weren't a white named wolfplayer under the guise of a leet colored named clanner that needs to prove his self worth by !admintest'ing every 10 minutes so that people realize he is 'regular' and not to be trifled with. Many people are sick of your attitude on/off the server and don't find your posts even the slightest intelligent regardless of your oh so honorable 'prelaw' status. Wow you must be credible, I mean all those mock trials...*laff*

As for all the holier than thou anti-racism speak, I find it funny that you guys publicly declare your stance, yet have no problem mocking what is commonly referred to as ebonics (predominantly used by the african american race) for the sake of humor. I don't see how any of it is "warrented" or different for that matter. It is still a form of degradation, regardless of its lightheartedness.

by **FigoJudas** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 5:29 am

Originally posted by Savant
I know you guys have gigs of info, ive seen some of it, remember? keep em coming

???? then I´m still waiting something.

Originally posted by aphid
... His friend was not being racist and most likely Redrum was not Struckdown. You had no proof. You didn't check it...

What can you expect from ppl that still thinks that Red Sharpie and wo0t are the same person 0_o?

Originally posted by Slaughter1
...I play by the rulez of the beach enuff said

Do you know that exists a rule that says: DONT SPAM?
I still dont understand why the admins that play at the same time than you dont kick you for spam with your presents. No hard feeling, only a comment.

Originally posted by Nofx
In response to Keekanoo...you're right, you (and the other admins) I would say at least 95% of the time treat people right...

Maybe, but a player must do it 100% of the time, can´t do errors or have a bad day as admins.

Originally posted by aphid
I have said this before and I'll say it again, you want to turn the server into Keekanoo's 24/7 Beach server. You were removed once for your inability to control yourself and the direction you were taking the server. Why you were put in this position again is beyond me.

Wtf!!! Since 9 months ago I thought it was Keekanoo´s 24/7 Beach server....that´s means he doesnt pay nothing for the server? :freak:

Originally posted by Keekanoo
Racism isn't tolerated. Period.

What happens with Medicalman´s racist comment that someone posted some weeks ago (with a SS)?

Originally posted by Savant
There is always more to the story, but you guys know that. try harder

What is the history to use !putteam? to don´t kick your friends for spam? to insult a player without sense?

by **Slaughter1** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:35 am

figo i respect u for your little comment about spam, but I never go out of control with it, at least never had any warnings

And bro your english suffers why to you try and try again to make any sense, because you aren't making any sense over, over, over again and your stuff you say is one big run-on sentence!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone said post in spanish, I second that

in example:

Do you know that exists a rule that says: DONT SPAM?
I still dont understand why the admins that play at the same time than you dont kick you for spam with your presents. No hard feeling, only a comment.

ok english 101 figo

The rules says, "don't spam". I really don't understand why the admins, who play at the same time, don't kick you for the presents you bring to the beach.

ok tomorrow we are going to get on t/s together and practice saying thats a present from slaughter!!!!!!!!!

my two cents crackheads

by **hitznrunz** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:14 am

I agree with you a hundred percent aphid...The admins ...actually admin(won't mention any names keek) abuses his power all the time...with me anyhow. He has consistently banned me throughout the past few years. Just recently i came onto the server after a few days of world of warcraft...only to be banned within the first two minutes....for "bleeding" I spawned went to top bunker where i did kill a teammate with a nade....said sorry..v45..continued down the back stairs and into the ducts...grab the docs...died there.Respawned at forward bunker turned left in the trenches..killed savant who was on the other team..and i was immediately banned. Other then the one tk on upper bunker with nade..that happens all the time..withe everyone...i never once came in contact of eye sight of another teammate...Keek ive tried to be nice to you....i said hi to you when i came on the server up until the last bs ban....You have some serious problems man. Ive pmed you numerous times during the game to say hi and strike up friendly conversation with you...All i ask is for you to get that stick outta your ass, stop holding grudges against people and admin fairly. I might tk one guy a game...one guy...there are those who tk at least 5-10 a game...to say that i was bleeding that day was total bs and you know it..I thought you were doing us all a favor by watching over the beach for us....but all your doing is getting in the way of fair and fun gaming. How come nobody has a problem with my gaming but you keek? I'm consistently on the top of the leader board without camping or just grabbing the docs for the sake of points..How am i getting those points keek...tkilling?? i think not...What makes me sick is all the shit you give to a certain few regulars. Its a frigin game...After a long day of classes or work or both...I like to sit down and frag for a couple of hours with my good buds of s.s. .....Now stay outta my way...ive stayed out of yours...

by **DocTrebor** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:56 am

Got any other stories woot that you care to make up? woot, got anything to back that up? why don't you add in there how I retalited and tked like 7 people saying that they were stupid noobs? your words are meaningless. why you have such bias towards me, i could care less.

yes i PMed a guy to watch his fire, and he responded in global chat. i remember this event. he had no problem with it once i clarfied that i knew he wasnt tkin on purpose, just a friendly, "make sure you watch your fire" because I had not seen this person on the server before. of course you didnt see this, so I can understand why you would assume things and fill in blanks to make the worst picture possible for this thread.

As for your claims about admintesting and threatening with bans and what not...its not nice to make up stories. Thats just being a ass. Telling, no asking as I recall in my pms to that guy, a player to watch his fire is not being a admin, you dont need to be an admin to talk to another player.

When you decided to pick up on his global chat to ME, you heard only pieces and quickly made assumptions. Tied in with your obvious :freak:

attitude towards me, I can see why you demanded justification for my convorsation. Funny that you claim I act as a beach police officer.

And sorry if my respecting admins or friends taht happend o be admins is considered being the admin assistant in your eyes, but thats your opinion, and frankly I dont give a rats ass what you think of me. I play a clean game, and could very well hold my own, but maybe I play just like wolfplayer (as youve said before)

Ill end this by saying its fine to have whatever opinions you have of me, but dont take it to higher levels by being a liar and saying i admintest every 10 minutes and go around threatening to ban or kick people with my invisible power, you know thats not true. i play a clean game as you do too.

by **VlfPlyer** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:30 am

To Woot and compadres:

There are a number of people on the server who will call out behavior that should not be allowed.

I will, certainly Doc will, I know of others, regs or not.

No one is trying to pretend to be a jr. admin.

The flow of the game and level of game play is higher IMHO at this server than at any free & open pubs that I know of.

I can only guess why.

My guess is that holding people accountable for sloppy play or repeat offenses etc. keeps up the level of play.

Making excuses and blaming anyone or a few select people, ad naseum,
is weak

Due to my job and responsablilties I am able to meet and game on 24/7 for a fraction of time. Why would I want to log on to play with a bunch or 'tards?

So post more evidence please. If you have looked at your gameplay and found yourself beyond reproach, then bring it to the table. If you feel persicuted or misunderstood then bring it.

I am glad that you had the foresight to save and archive to proove the information that is needed to clarify this for all.

I analyze information, sceaniros and options all day in a detached technical manner and I can assure you of my fairness, if that matters.

by **Geist** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:37 am

i have no beefs with anyone, its a game ffs. its like a script for insult comics, which btw i find funny.. but is getting sickening at the same time. i could care less who "owns" who. who is better ,who is an asshole or a liar. i'd be first to admit i'm an asshole.. if i have no probs, then why is everyone else?.. i guess its because i havent been around to long to know. or that i only play 2 or 3 times a week. pick up a fishpole or something and stop bitching about a game that is just what it is a game. so people own at life and some people own at games get over it already. and get ya momma titty out your mouth

by **VlfPlyer** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:43 am

Originally posted by Geist
...........i'd be first to admit i'm an asshole and get ya momma titty out your mouth.

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