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Postby King » Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:55 am

I read over some "evidencit was suprising. On the other hand, there was enough information to look incriminating. However it was biased enough where i realized that it might not be the whole picture.

Kind of like Farenheit 9/11, people claim that its biased and that the whole story isn't represented. thats how i feel about the stuff i saw Figo. It did raise an eyebrow or two... but on the other hand...

In America and im applying this towards ECGN since its an american company, you have the right to say whatever you want. Freedom of speech baby. People that aren't American but post here have the same rights as we do. Whether you are Canadian, Spanish, British, or just a mongoloid, you have that right. It is monitored in some respects but only as it pertaints to ECGN in a business sense.

Think of admins as policing figures:

A police officer might let someone else off for a small offense depending on their mood.

To be human is to have falibility. You can't expect a person to be perfect everytime. Officers or admins apply to the same rule.

Now there are a few things you can do about your angst over admins and corruption:

Call him on it on the spot... send him a p/m asking about questionable activity. Level headed questions generally recieve level headed answers.

voice your concerns to an admin you trust. Ship was one for the guys... never saw him be unfair at all to anybody. I'm sure there might be one you that you semi get along with.

I just love how a /screenshotjpeg is the applied action instead aof /m (admin). Then they subsequently file that info away for when such a topic appears on the forum.

A lot of people talk shit generally after someone else logs a complaint on the forum. Thats probably for one of two reasons:

A) They are too chickenshit to say how they feel unless someone somewhat feels the way they do.

B) They are too chickenshit to put themselves out on a limb, in fear of getting banned or have a bunch of guys dump on them.

If you disagree with the way Keek, Savant, Bubba, Parrot.... (fill in admin name here) does shit, then ask polite why? If the response is unsatisfactory, then really say something on here. There are enough regs to go around to read the convo in world chat.

I remember when that dude got booted. If they had it coming, they had it coming. Rules are rules, even if they are governed by creatures who make mistakes or are imperfect.
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Postby DocTrebor » Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:04 pm

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Postby Nofx » Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:26 pm

Originally posted by =DocTrebor=
[img]As for your claims about admintesting and threatening with bans and what not...its not nice to make up stories. Thats just being a ass. Telling, no asking as I recall in my pms to that guy, a player to watch his fire is not being a admin, you dont need to be an admin to talk to another player.


Ok, I know I said I was going to stop posting screenshots because I didn't want to piss any more people off, but I think I was talking about admin abuse, and Trebor doesn't count as an admin. So here you go Trebor, you want proof, Mr. Attorney? Well I'd love to see you explain this screenshot. You threatened to have me kicked for using /kill. The screenshot was taken on August 6th btw.

So yea....guess wo0t wasn't making things up, huh? You shouldn't call people "a ass" (sic) just because you know they don't take screenshots...there are some weirdo's out there who do (like me).

And Slaughter1...you complain about this thread being pointless, yet you have a post criticizing Figo's English??? His English may be rough in certain spots, but his points are completely understandable. If you disagree with it, then fine, you're free to state your opinion. No need to pick on someones grammar. Yours isn't 100% correct either.

And yea, I'm getting Photoshop today to convert the TGA files, so keep your panties on.

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Postby A Red Sharpie » Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:31 pm

Oh snap! Just when I thought the poor spelling would be enough to keep me entertained, proof of how Doctrebor can be a total asshole! He even threatened me once, saying he would have me kicked. Sorry no SS, but I remember it like it was yesterday...

shit talk...then a knife..then the threats. ahhh, that pretty much sums up a normal day on ecgn.

there are too many people making these supposedly "false" accusations for it not to be true. Come play when you're post-law, maybe the bar exam will improve your aim and attitude.

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Postby Edogg » Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:35 pm

good lord look at the tks. 17 tks with only 52 kills.:eek: That doesnt matter though, as long as that kr is preserved.:roll:

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Postby Geist » Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:36 pm

i can convert em for ya no prob. as for /kill whats the big deal? part of the game like panzers and flames christ. he prolly panzer tks happen
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Postby Edogg » Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:39 pm

there is a free program called irfanview that can convert tga into jpeg. Its better than photoshop in a sense, because it has the ability to do them in batches.

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Postby A Red Sharpie » Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:41 pm

Originally posted by VlfPlyer
To Woot and compadres:


The flow of the game and level of game play is higher IMHO at this server than at any free & open pubs that I know of.


Sorry dude but you have to get the LMAO award of the day for that statement.

So when you say flow of the game, do you mean how easy it is to get around people that just stand in doors or continually block your way or is it the people that don't know how to strafe jump?

And by level of play do you mean the people that stand around spinning in circles shooting, or the people that haven't found out what +movedown (crouch) does?

You really got me laughing, though.

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Postby A Red Sharpie » Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:43 pm

Originally posted by Edogg
good lord look at the tks. 17 tks with only 52 kills.:eek: That doesnt matter though, as long as that kr is preserved.:roll:


Hey genius, every time you /kill, it counts in that red (column). Too bad mr. shrub didn't differentiate between tk's and /kills. Guess he figured that this mod would only be used on ff-off servers...guess he was wrong! Common mistake though, it's understandable that you made it.

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Postby VlfPlyer » Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:44 pm

Originally posted by Edogg
good lord look at the tks. 17 tks with only 52 kills.:eek: That doesnt matter though, as long as that kr is preserved.:roll:


:ar15: :lol:

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Postby Edogg » Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:56 pm

Originally posted by A Red Sharpie
Hey genius, every time you /kill, it counts in that red (column). Too bad mr. shrub didn't differentiate between tk's and /kills. Guess he figured that this mod would only be used on ff-off servers...guess he was wrong! Common mistake though, it's understandable that you made it.


No, I knew that. I was waiting for Nofx to say that so that I then could mention how those 17 deaths really fuck that kr up. Thats just a false sense of "l33tness"

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Postby Savant » Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:59 pm

Hitz plz your friendly slashing as you pass by players is called BLEEDING havent you been warned/kicked for it? subsequent offences just add time to a TEMP-ban, you have even done it to me.

Its the ACCUMMULATIVE nonsense that earns a warning,a kick,a temp-ban, a longggg temp-ban, then oh why me ban.

Plz hitz you have no beef here> and about those OTHER kicks/temp-bans werent they for the nonstop MANGLING of players back in the day? rethink that next post
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Postby Savant » Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:04 pm

For the record NOBODY gets kicked for /kill, knock off the disinformation, plz dont flame Treb/slaught
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Postby DocTrebor » Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:09 pm

nice screenie, but id like you to explain to me instead how i was threatening to have you kicked? the script obviously shows me ssaying "have you kicked?"(yes that was a QUESTION MARK)how is asking a question threatening to have u kicked, esp since I am not an admin...also note the LoL, meaning there obviously was a lack of seriousness on the issue. the crying to your mom comment is quite funny actually... /killing doesnt tweak me as much as it does others...




as for your comment sharpie....i dont know any of your aliases so i cant begin to try to lay any sort of defense against your evidence lacking accusation, but its ok, because its your burden to show that im a dick who threatens like that, not my burden to prove otherwise. and if youre comment is true that i threatened to HAVE you kicked (showing that im not claiming to have powers to do it) why dont you share why? i would like a little reminder on why you would provoke me to say it (if i did i had a reason). I mean you say you remember it like it was yesteray so lets see it.

and i hate to tell ya sharpie: you, nofx, and woot hardly make a presentable team when it comes to saying "too many people are making these accusations for them not to be true." I can easily conjure up a group to say something on my behalf, whether or not its true, so dont even bother with your "logic."

The fact of the matter is this ladies and gents; i play a clean game so get of my nuts. If I see someone else who is not playing a clean game then normally I will approach him/her before it gets to bad, whether i am a admin or not is COMPLETELY irrelevant. All that means is I can't do anything if the crap game continues, hence why the /pm to the admin works. If there is no admin we deal as best we can. If there does come a time when i say to a player, stop blocking, bleeding, tking, (fill in here) or you'll be kicked its my right to do so. Id rather keep the asshattery to a minimum, although it often provides a good chuckle now and then. I do not need a level 2 status to tell another player about the rules of a server, especially given the fact Ive been playing on this server for a hell of a long itme. Level 2 is there to enforce the rules...threatening to have a person kicked (ie go to an admin)if they dont stop doing something and being able to do it yourself is a big difference, so get of my case.

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Postby SavageParrot » Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:16 pm

Man am I glad I bought the xl tub of popcorn, this thread just gets better and better :D
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