I'm done

by **Radram** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:52 am

the fact you were caught and still in the clan should be more offensive. i had to deal with that same situation in another clan, and trust me it will cause a division. everything being equal , in the long run, they will stop defending you. do you think pb had something just against you? cause you cheer when u kill someone, or your German? i think not. as i know programs dont have emotions, so if your caught by a trusted one like PB your screwed in my book.

maybe you dont hack, maybe you do. maybe you were just testing something out, which if that is the case you should have informed admins or ecgn. no one knows but you, all they know is that you were caught by PB, the only un-biased party in this matter.

by **Radram** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:53 am

oh dammit i forgot.......

one map

by **Deadman** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:11 am

Originally posted by Radram
the fact you were caught and still in the clan should be more offensive. i had to deal with that same situation in another clan, and trust me it will cause a division. everything being equal , in the long run, they will stop defending you. do you think pb had something just against you? cause you cheer when u kill someone, or your German? i think not. as i know programs dont have emotions, so if your caught by a trusted one like PB your screwed in my book.

maybe you dont hack, maybe you do. maybe you were just testing something out, which if that is the case you should have informed admins or ecgn. no one knows but you, all they know is that you were caught by PB, the only un-biased party in this matter.

Actually Radram, at the risk of this thread being degraded fruther by this "out of scope" topic - the tt clan stand behind voodoo because we 'know' him. We also 'know' how the accusaction of cheating came about and have discussed it at length. Our decision is that VooDoo is a good player that many of us have had the pleasure of playing with for quite some time. His skills alone reinforce the idea that he needs no hacks to assist him. I have rebutted the accusation already on intelligent grounds regarding the unreliable nature of the identification workflow and poor approach to identifcation that was used in selecting him for his ban. No response was given directly to my comments but voodoo has not returned to play at ECGN out of his similar dislike for how things are predominately being handled by the poor admins at ECGN.

As stated on that topic already by myself, voodoo's return is prevented only by himself because he has already announced (to tt) that he has no desire to actually play at ECGN again until intelligence and order is restored among the administration. If that day does not come, then he is at no loss since he plays on many other servers. Again, there is no division about the status of voodoo or the accusation in the tt clan. We are stedfast in our support of him and he lack of support for the actions of those that are misguided in their self indulgances.

Soap box 2 for the morning....

Also, Radram, if you think that your additional new-lines in your mesg make people pay more attention to your one liners....then you are right....they pay attention and are annoyed. Thus they are further diswayed to care about what you have said. Just FYI for your future posts.

by **DocTrebor** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:17 am

Will someone please bash on me now? I'm feeling left out

by **gowhitesox99** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:19 am

Why is it that when people leave this server they feel the need to make a production out of it. Just go, you wont be missed. We have like what over 1,000 people a year that play here, why is it that 1 person would make any difference? Get over yourself, get a job, get a mortgage payment then come talk to me about what matters and what doesn't.

Secondly, deadman, who are you really? You speak of this server like you have been around awhile, however your post count is 2, I smell an alias.

Tertiary, voodoo who was banned, then let back in, you are now banned again?

by **/vid_restart** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:20 am

If a pure html site makes you believe somebody is hacking, I'll make you believe Slaughter is hacking, give me a second and I code it for you.

by **DocTrebor** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:23 am

by **/vid_restart** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:24 am

Originally posted by =DocTrebor=
:lol:

by **Deadman** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:25 am

Originally posted by gowhitesox99
Why is it that when people leave this server they feel the need to make a production out of it. Just go, you wont be missed. We have like what over 1,000 people a year that play here, why is it that 1 person would make any difference? Get over yourself, get a job, get a mortgage payment then come talk to me about what matters and what doesn't.

Secondly, deadman, who are you really? You speak of this server like you have been around awhile, however your post count is 2, I smell an alias.

Tertiary, voodoo who was banned, then let back in, you are now banned again?

I have a job, I have a mortgage, I have a wife, and I am taking issue with the lack of integrity of some of the current administrators.

Nothing you have said concerning # of players, the livelihood of those that are complaining, or the number of my current posts addressed the substance of the issue.

I am Deadman (no alias), and yes I have been around awhile, and no this would be the first time I have cared enough to say something.

PS For those of you that are about to say "it is just a game" save your typing - for by responding in that manner you are admitting you apparently care enough to have your voice heard on the issue as well.

by **/vid_restart** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:33 am

WTF, Slaughter is hacking!

by **/vid_restart** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:34 am

Uploaded it as a .txt because html is not allowed.

by **Deadman** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:36 am

Originally posted by /vid_restart
WTF, Slaughter is hacking!

Okay Voodoo - the point was made. No reason to drag the entire thread through the mud like others would have us do. Try to stay on topic in a defensible manner. Some would be more than happy to see the issue get side tracked into a pissing contest and the true problem lost in the haze.

by **/vid_restart** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:39 am

Sorry, but it's ridiculous how easy you can manipulate people.

Btw Trebor. I'm subnet-banned. If I tried to connect, it wouldn't show up my name there. You just proved somebody else uses the same GUID, nothing else.

by **DocTrebor** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:56 am

Originally posted by Deadman
Some would be more than happy to see the issue get side tracked into a pissing contest

Ya got that right!

by **FigoJudas** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:04 am

Originally posted by Radram
...all they know is that you were caught by PB...

The only I know is PB caught a GUID used by more than 40 differents persons, some of them I know personally from other servers and others I banned.
Btw, for me someone using a wallhack or multihack or aimbots...is a lame cheater, cos he uses an external program or tecnic that not all can't use and basic game doesn´t deal with, beneficing himself. Then the guys who use: !revive, !putteam, !throw... for his own benefice is the same shit lame cheater.

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