Edogg is out of commission for awhile :(

[Aim High]

Hey guys just food for thought here... I thing Edogg would have to wipe his hard drive anyway, since he's using a different chipset then he had before. If I remember correctly Edogg had a P3 933Mhz on an Intel board, which means he must have had the 815 chipset for PC100/133 RAM, and Socket 370 for the Processor. Now he went with a new P4 Intel board with Socket 478 using PC2700 (DDR333), you can't switch mobos like you guys suggest, unless it was the same Processor and Ram he was using, his hard drive wouldn't reconize the new Processor and Ram configuration, wiping the drivers out I don't think would help. Remember just my $0.02 .
And as for Windows my buddies and I not only have Window XP Pro copied we have RTCW(Shhh...don't tell Bill, or Id Software). We have the educational version of Windows XP, it updates everything no problem.

As for RTCW you just have to make sure you get a different number than anyone online or you can't play.

[Lord ZOG Profile]

Windows 98 is much more forgiving of motherboard switches than W2K or WinXP. As long as he does what I suggested in my previous post, he can throw an entirely different chipset/CPU in his new box and still retain all his programs and settings.

I've done this on one machine several times, going from a PII 400, to a AMD K6-3 500MHz, to a AMD Athlon 800MHz (the original Slot A processor), to an Athlon Thunderbird 1GHz Socket Socket A CPU. Granted, it is a better idea to completely reformat and re-install everything from scratch, but it's not always necessary. Windows XP/2000 require a complete re-install because of their greater complexity (amoung other things).

Granted, the drivers themselves might remain in the Windows, Windows\System, etc folders, but they're not being referenced so at worst they just take up space.

If he's really anal about things he could always do a search of his drive for his old VIA, Intel, SiS, etc files and delete them but his machine will be just fine if he leaves them there. Sometimes, drivers from a previous videa card can screw things up (but this is rare) so looking for those files and deleting them muight be necessary.

I was just offering a suggestion to him or anyone else reading these posts. Anyone can do what-ever they want, but if they're hesitant about losing their settings/programs then there's no reason to feel you don't have any choices (especially with Windows 95/98/ME).

[S.S. Heir Pie]

Originally posted by Edogg
I have a feeling that im gonna play like a semi-noob when I get back.
Its been a week and counting.

Hope your Dad can get your system up soon, suppose to have a game on
Dec 8th and could use your skills!.
Until then Im working on cleaning the war room out with a flame thrower.

Later

PIE

[Tha187um]

DAmn dogg i even fogot what you look like lol

well I can say I've been proud of my performance lately, so I have not let you down, I've been kicking ass ask Zog. I've taken the Docs all the way very frequently this week, well, I have been skipping work since Tuesday and the wife goes to work and the baby to day care so I have nothing else to do than to practice

can't wait to see you back man... damn, if you lived near here you would have been up and running... two weekends ago I re-did my computer 4, yes, 4 times bewtween sat and sun all 4 times from scratch and about your dads XP, you should be able to use it, i believe you get two shots to use it, once you have it loaded, make a ghost image out of it, thats what i did, every 5 apps i loaded on the computer, i backed it up... like that if its screws up, i dont have to go back so far if you need help with the ghost, let me know, i can send you the batch file you need it fits on a floppy....

[Lord ZOG Profile]

Tha187's been on some insane crusade...opening up cans of whoops ass on all his opponents. He even got a 298 point night on defense...and not by hogging the war room, either.

Someone get a sample of his urine!

On the Windows XP note; you can't use Windows XP on more than one machine.

If you ghost is and use that ghosted hard drive in your new system, you'll more than likely get a Blue Screen of Death regarding an "Inaccessible_Boot_Device" or some such nonsense.

The reason (in plain English) is that Windows XP is both a little more finicky when it comes to hardware changes, and it's a lot more secure.

The Activation end of it limits you to one copy per PC. Microsoft gets a hash based on your motherboard, video card, hard drive and compares that to your CD key. if you try to activate on more than one PC you get a different hash and the Microsoft Police come knocking at your door.

There are ways around this, of course, but I'm not into that end of the business. I have a "hacked" copy of XP that never required activation (only one copy like that, my two other copies are licensed and legal), but you can't download and install Service Pack 1. It detects an invalid CD key and prompts you to call Microsoft (yeah, right).

Anyway, just drop the $104.95 for the XP Home upgrade. It's worth every penny in my mind.

[Tha187um]

I told you Zog, I think it was the turkey man, Im gonna have to save a piece, hopefully it will still be good by Dec 8

Well, what i meant about the image was on his new system, once he gets it all ready to go, to make an image of it so if it crashes he doesn't have to load everything again...

Well, lucky for me that I work at the MIS Department at my college and we have an open license agreement with Mr. Gates where employes are allowed to use a copy of it as long as its for work related purposes, and well, playing RTCW on their os is work related, imagine all the stress i would have if i didn't take my anger out on the enemy? hehe...


The CD Key we have doesn't required a validation and you can do all the updates you want, as well as other MS Software. Woohoo I get my corel Daw 11 for like $89...

Zog if you want, I'll send you a piece of the turkey ... well, let me head to the Beach

[MMmmGood]

Originally posted by S.S. Lord ZOG
Tha187's been on some insane crusade...opening up cans of whoops ass on all his opponents. He even got a 298 point night on defense...and not by hogging the war room, either.

Someone get a sample of his urine!

On the Windows XP note; you can't use Windows XP on more than one machine.

If you ghost is and use that ghosted hard drive in your new system, you'll more than likely get a Blue Screen of Death regarding an "Inaccessible_Boot_Device" or some such nonsense.

The reason (in plain English) is that Windows XP is both a little more finicky when it comes to hardware changes, and it's a lot more secure.

The Activation end of it limits you to one copy per PC. Microsoft gets a hash based on your motherboard, video card, hard drive and compares that to your CD key. if you try to activate on more than one PC you get a different hash and the Microsoft Police come knocking at your door.

There are ways around this, of course, but I'm not into that end of the business. I have a "hacked" copy of XP that never required activation (only one copy like that, my two other copies are licensed and legal), but you can't download and install Service Pack 1. It detects an invalid CD key and prompts you to call Microsoft (yeah, right).

Anyway, just drop the $104.95 for the XP Home upgrade. It's worth every penny in my mind.

I have a copy of XP Pro that works just fine with SP1. If you want to know how, PM me.

[Edogg]

well im back from virginia. Unfortunately, my dad and I didnt have any time to work on my pc, considering we left for virginia as soon as i got to his house. So i left it at his house so he can work on it. ill pick it up on wednesday after my last class. So assuming everything goes perfect, I should be up and running Wed. night. Which still gives me a few days to get back into shape for the scrimmage.

I believe my dad is just going to install 98 se again, which is fine with me.
I have had no major complaints about that Os, other than some occasional locking up or crashing. Im willing to sacrafice some stability, so i dont have to shell out more money for xp. Besides, 98se seems to be compatible with just about everything at the moment. Im sure a couple of months down the road I will pick up a copy of xp.

[[A.S.H.]Colossus]

If you go to school I am sure there is a way to get it for free

[6undam]

Originally posted by Edogg
I believe my dad is just going to install 98 se again, which is fine with me.
I have had no major complaints about that Os, other than some occasional locking up or crashing. Im willing to sacrafice some stability, so i dont have to shell out more money for xp. Besides, 98se seems to be compatible with just about everything at the moment. Im sure a couple of months down the road I will pick up a copy of xp.

I can't believe you're gonna stick with 98SE!! Better than nothing sure, but as Colossus says, surely your friends at school can help you out here?

[Tha187um]

Or try like [A.S.H.]Colossus look around in school, dogg, i work at a college and we are allowed to take the software home for free. Bigger schools might allow students to have it as well... if not , just let me know man, im sure one of us can hook you up...

[Edogg]

its ok guys...really. I will be ok. 98 isnt that bad of an os. I cant get xp for free, my University is very small...only about 5,000 students.
My school supplies us with slow laptops(which im using right now) which has windows 2000 on it(and tons of other software). I guess they dont feel they have to supply us with free software besides that.

Also my father and I have done some tests, and as far as actual gameplay goes...games seem to run faster in 98se than they do in xp.
This will probably change as more new games come out that are more xp focused. Im sure there are going to be many of you out there who disagree with this, and thats fine.

[Dragon Fart]

hummm
id say

Sorry Brother
You Blew your Mother


u say balck screen no Bios even . ..

Component Level faliure on the mother board of some sorts
sorry ,
But the good new is . . . .
New technolagy

Intel's Pentium Performance Hangs on a Hyper-Thread

Intel has quietly begun to deviate from its self-perpetuated myth that processor performance is based on clock-speed alone: Intel's new 3.06 Ghz Pentium 4 offers Hyper-Threading, a technology that Intel says offers up to a 24% performance gain independent of clock speed. The launch follows Intel's debut of its Pentium 4 with an excessively long pipeline of 20-stages two years ago that boosted clock speed to the detriment of processor performance.

More at http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20021202/index.html

oh yea and a new Windows to go with that proccesor
They recently had a link to the page
but i bet Microscum stoped um
so heres a few direct links
Code Named LONGHorn

http://www.neowin.net/images/screenshots/lh3683/lh3683_01.png
http://www.neowin.net/images/screenshots/lh3683/lh3683_02.png
http://www.neowin.net/images/screenshots/lh3683/lh3683_03.png
http://www.neowin.net/images/screenshots/lh3683/lh3683_04.png

all the way to . . . .. .
http://www.neowin.net/images/screenshots/lh3683/lh3683_09.png

[MeatShield]

Longhorn...hmm.. I have been seeing this a little more lately.. although in alpha right now, not due out until mid 2004 or so..

and of course I have to disagree with the win 98 argument.. XP/2000 will/should run games better mainly due to how the OS accesses the memory. Of course the more memory the better, and win 98 will eventually not see or use actually, more that 512 or so.. XP thrives apun it... and most newer games ( RTCW, BF1942, and Unreal 2k3) seem to rock with XP and the latest Direct X 8.1. And if the game happens to die.. you will most of the time be sent back to the desktop and not a blue screen..

but if I can figure out Linux, I would rather stick with it...

[Edogg]

I can tell you that Ive run benchmarks in 98 and then in win 2000. 98 scored considerably better than 2000 if i can remember correctly. As far as some games running better in 98 over xp, my dad has done tests on this...not me. Im only going by what my dad has said.