What the hell is spec cheating?

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What the hell is spec cheating?

Postby LordShard » Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:56 pm

Can someone explain this to me?

Is it just simply getting pwned by someoen so you go spec to see where he shot you from? Or is it Just going spec to learn what he does so you can out do him? Something else? No idea here people.

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Postby Killer Mike » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:20 pm

You have a friend. He goes spec. You go allies or axis. He roams around and sees where people are, u avoid them or kill them. You basically use your friend to know where people are.

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Postby Destructor » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:20 pm

maybe it's when dude a goes into spec while a dude b is playing and through teamspeak or ventrilo or just p.m.ing, dude a let's dude b know the enemy's position or any other vital need-to-know shit.
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Postby LordShard » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:38 pm

Originally posted by Killer Mike
You have a friend. He goes spec. You go allies or axis. He roams around and sees where people are, u avoid them or kill them. You basically use your friend to know where people are.
Spec cheating deoesn't make any sense on ECGN Beach 24/7, so many people your always going to be fighting someone, you don't have to look for people.

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Postby Keekanoo » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:44 pm

There are times when the server isn't busy at all.

And the Spec'r can view names--allowing the targeting of a specific person.

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Postby Radram » Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:42 pm

IMO this is a very gray area. a reg player that is not gibbed can do same thing in game , giving position and numbers. there is no real way to enforce this and just creates and certain kind of paranoia on the server.
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Postby Edogg » Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:05 am

Im sure I have been a victim of this a few times over my three years or so of playing on this server.:rotflmao:

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Postby Sir Loin » Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:53 am

those spec cheaters lame asses.
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Postby FigoJudas » Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:47 am

Originally posted by S.S.Radram
IMO this is a very gray area. a reg player that is not gibbed can do same thing in game , giving position and numbers. there is no real way to enforce this and just creates and certain kind of paranoia on the server.


And a gibbed player with a little skill can spec his zone.

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Postby SavageParrot » Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:12 am

He he I remember one day I was sniping and I shot this guy a few times so he decided to come out and get me. Every time he came though I just heard him at the last second (earphones much better than speakers) and managed to kill him in immensly fluky ways, usually with a nade. After a few kills he started to say he'd of got me if it wasn't for my little friends spotting for me (there weren't any).

The long and the short is that it's easy to be accused of spec cheating and everyone knows this but that's not the same as actually cheating, you aren't gonna get a punishment just because someone gets angry with you and makes stuff up. The admins are rational guys and we aren't gonna act without evidence especially not on something like this, so unless you are using your buddy to look round corners don't worry you are safe.
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Postby ^wo0t » Fri Jul 23, 2004 6:50 am

Originally posted by SavageParrot
The admins are rational guys and we aren't gonna act without evidence especially not on something like this..

Who were you accusing of aimbotting the other day with the only evidence being the fact you got raged?
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There are times when the server isn't busy at all.
And the Spec'r can view names--allowing the targeting of a specific person.

Some opponents are predictable. And if there are that few people on the server, it can be easy to see why someone would think they are being targeted when they keep getting killed by someone that camps a spot in between the two points of entry (lower/upper bunker). I'm sure we've all been a victim of this, some just take it better than others.
Originally posted by S.S.Radram
IMO this is a very gray area. a reg player that is not gibbed can do same thing in game , giving position and numbers. there is no real way to enforce this and just creates and certain kind of paranoia on the server.

This is very well put, of course they wouldn't be able to "target" people since they don't see the enemy names. Some people are just going to always be paranoid of cheaters when they get killed everytime. Now I've had days when killermik3 seemed like he was hunting me down and giving me facials non-stop. Do I think he was cheating? Well, now I'm not so sure, I didn't hear about spec-cheat till recently and the osp community is usually ahead of us in these kinds of trends.

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Postby Radram » Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:01 am

lol killermike cheats..... u guys need to leave that server sometimes and get a dose of reality . the hax for RTCW are nothing compared to the one for ET. the wallhax are about the only ones that work right and those are lame and dont help with aim/skill.

now for ET u have the lazer beams from the enemies head that give the direction they are lookin at, their player class, what weapon, a humanized aimbot that will only target "living" players and u can set where they will be shot according to what hitbox u want hit. gives u explosive esp which gives u color codes for grenade so u can time them perfectly, a wall hack, icons over their heads so u can see who or what is coming from behind the wall. This is called a multihack and there isnt one that i have seen for RTCW.


Ive been at the beach now for a few weeks , ive speced a few players and i havent seen anything suspicious at all. all i know in the long run paranoia will make the game very unenjoyable.

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* things to look for* since the aimbots for wolf are weak, look for someone that has a choppy shot or whose gun will target a dead body in the middle of a gun fight. also for a wall hack which has been used on the beach (previous thread) look for someone that is looking at a wall or just being blatent about lookin thru the floors when in a higher position.
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Postby SavageParrot » Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:34 am

Originally posted by ^wo0t
Who were you accusing of aimbotting the other day with the only evidence being the fact you got raged?


Last person I accused of having an aimbot was youngon3, it was about a year ago (long before i was an admin) and he was pwning my ass hard so I got all n00bie about it, it was very premenstrual of me and I think it flattered him anyway. If that is the other day you are talking about then ok but otherwise don't make shit up to try and make others look bad.
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Postby LordShard » Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:30 pm

Easy way to tell if someone asa bot is to pull a screenshot off their computer, if it comes up blank, kick ban them for driver tampering.

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Postby A Red Sharpie » Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:57 am

Originally posted by SavageParrot
Last person I accused of having an aimbot was youngon3, it was about a year ago (long before i was an admin) and he was pwning my ass hard so I got all n00bie about it, it was very premenstrual of me and I think it flattered him anyway. If that is the other day you are talking about then ok but otherwise don't make shit up to try and make others look bad.


I saw you on the other day calling Militant out for having an aimbot? WTF man?

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