What's up with all the hackers?

[=TAO=WARPIG Profile]

You know who they are.
Why are they allowed back in after being banned by other admins?

It's causing some of the best players ever to uninstall.

Looks like the hackers won. Has wolf reached such a dismal point that all of the legit players have to stand for this bullsh** if they want to play the greatest game ever? What is the sense in playing then.

[aphid Profile]

So you have hackers and non hackers. The hackers cannot play if they are banned thus reducing their size. The non hackers do not want to play with hackers so they uninstall the game and don't play.

Judging by past posts and complaints in the game, I would wager a guess and say 99% of the server hacks. According to everyone, everyone hacks.

Wouldn't it be within the best interests of the server to allow hacking? That would allow the server to retain 99% (hackers) of the players as opposed to just having the 1% (non hackers). Not only that but hackers beat some of the best players ever out there right now, as you say. So, having people hack all the time would, for all intents and purposes, allow the game to have the best players.

Just "imho" and "my two cents" as they say. :worship::drink::oreo::bday::repost:

[Sorry Profile]

Yep something needs to be done about this bullshit. Well known hackers are back. Just check the been banned section, some of those guys banned are back playing wolf again with the same nicks and same playing style.

[SavageParrot Profile]

The game is dying it's no time to get picky about past history. What's important is that they aren't hacking now not that they got caught once in 2003. Hackers aren't hard to spot, despite what people keep telling you. If you can't tell exactly how a guy is hacking, then he's almost certainly not hacking...

[=TAO=WARPIG Profile]

Just left the server, there was about 40 ppl there,
38 of them think they're getting a fair game.
They are not.

I never claimed it to be difficult to spot these hackers, like you said, it's easy.

Hey it's your server, you are the guys in charge BUT if you have admins who play the game on a regular basis and decide that someone is hacking, why make them go through all the bs that goes along with speccing/looking up guides,etc.... Kinda wasting their time if you ask me.

You have people who are willing but their hands are tied. These are the admins who play the game daily.

The hackers are wasting EVERYONE'S time. I'm done wasting mine. I know just about every player that visits your server and they know me. I've had conversations with many of the regulars, you have lots of unhappy ppl over there, and rightfully so.

It will be these hackers that finally ruin the best and one of the last wolf servers there is.

*Aphid you have your numbers backwards, it's 99% non-hackers, 1% hackers

[Slaughter2 Profile]

So you have hackers and non hackers. The hackers cannot play if they are banned thus reducing their size. The non hackers do not want to play with hackers so they uninstall the game and don't play.

Judging by past posts and complaints in the game, I would wager a guess and say 99% of the server hacks. According to everyone, everyone hacks.

Wouldn't it be within the best interests of the server to allow hacking? That would allow the server to retain 99% (hackers) of the players as opposed to just having the 1% (non hackers). Not only that but hackers beat some of the best players ever out there right now, as you say. So, having people hack all the time would, for all intents and purposes, allow the game to have the best players.

Just "imho" and "my two cents" as they say. :worship::drink::oreo::bday::repost:

Holy shit he speaks
Long time Aphid

[Slaughter2 Profile]

The game is dying it's no time to get picky about past history. What's important is that they aren't hacking now not that they got caught once in 2003. Hackers aren't hard to spot, despite what people keep telling you. If you can't tell exactly how a guy is hacking, then he's almost certainly not hacking...

I agree bird, if peeps think they are the greatest ever for owning at a game that means shit I just do this

!stats I still OWN you in real life

[B]

It's MoFo and his latest side kick. Joker finally got tired of the stacking bullshit tonight. Told people he is going to shuffle and if anyone switches teams he is going to ban. Of course MoFo aka Grip has to start his bitchin bs. Nothing like being sniped by a sniper(MoFo) not using his scope as he stands on forward bunker and im at the water. I had my scope on him and i was shocked he killed me. They try to hide behind different alliases, but cmon, their hacking shit never changes, only obvious. They gotta come on late at night to run the server/kill it and laugh about it. Dead game or not, it ruins it for others. They should of stayed banned.

[caseyjones Profile]

I'll start believing there are a lot of hackers when I get a negative kill ratio in a round. Until then, either almost no one hacks or they hack and I can beat them anyway (making me a god you should all be worshipping)

[SavageParrot Profile]

Just left the server, there was about 40 ppl there,
38 of them think they're getting a fair game.
They are not.

I never claimed it to be difficult to spot these hackers, like you said, it's easy.

Hey it's your server, you are the guys in charge BUT if you have admins who play the game on a regular basis and decide that someone is hacking, why make them go through all the bs that goes along with speccing/looking up guides,etc.... Kinda wasting their time if you ask me.

You have people who are willing but their hands are tied. These are the admins who play the game daily.

The hackers are wasting EVERYONE'S time. I'm done wasting mine. I know just about every player that visits your server and they know me. I've had conversations with many of the regulars, you have lots of unhappy ppl over there, and rightfully so.

It will be these hackers that finally ruin the best and one of the last wolf servers there is.

*Aphid you have your numbers backwards, it's 99% non-hackers, 1% hackers

Seen plenty of admins make wrong calls m8, hell I've made plenty myself. The purpose of taking demos and handing them in is so that your decision is verified and you are not just seeing something that you want to be there rather than something that actually is. Besides if you are watching the guy anyway why not /record while you are at it, if you are not watching the guy then what makes you so sure he hacks? The fact that a dozen people who are getting pwned by the same player all agree that he must be hacking is never a persuasive argument even when it turns out to be true.

I fail to see the drama here, it probably took as long to post here and to follow it up than it would have to take a demo and send it in.

As for Mofo, and Remedy they are pussies. Not going to argue skills or hacks or any of that except to say that skills mean shit when all you do is use them to do is team stack and deliberately empty servers. There's no honour in looking for the lowest skill players, putting yourself on the other team and trying to make them leave. It was weak 5 years ago and it's weak now and it doesn't take a genius to work out that that type of bullying ethos is one of the main reasons osp died and the other mods are still kicking. Fresh blood is hard to come by when all you do is act like dicks and try to drive anyone new away from the game...

[=TAO=WARPIG Profile]

I'll start believing there are a lot of hackers when I get a negative kill ratio in a round. Until then, either almost no one hacks or they hack and I can beat them anyway (making me a god you should all be worshipping)

You play wolf?

[=TAO=WARPIG Profile]

Seen plenty of admins make wrong calls m8, hell I've made plenty myself. The purpose of taking demos and handing them in is so that your decision is verified and you are not just seeing something that you want to be there rather than something that actually is. Besides if you are watching the guy anyway why not /record while you are at it, if you are not watching the guy then what makes you so sure he hacks? The fact that a dozen people who are getting pwned by the same player all agree that he must be hacking is never a persuasive argument even when it turns out to be true.

I fail to see the drama here, it probably took as long to post here and to follow it up than it would have to take a demo and send it in.

As for Mofo, and Remedy they are pussies. Not going to argue skills or hacks or any of that except to say that skills mean shit when all you do is use them to do is team stack and deliberately empty servers. There's no honour in looking for the lowest skill players, putting yourself on the other team and trying to make them leave. It was weak 5 years ago and it's weak now and it doesn't take a genius to work out that that type of bullying ethos is one of the main reasons osp died and the other mods are still kicking. Fresh blood is hard to come by when all you do is act like dicks and try to drive anyone new away from the game...

I see where you coming from SP, thx for taking the time to address this issue.
I would just like to add one more thing then I will never bring the subject up again.
The main purpose of a "Banned List" is to keep the idiots from showing up on a server at anytime. There are many times when I'm on the server while there isn't anyone there with authority. These morons know that, and this is when they try to ruin your server. As soon as an admin shows up they stop or leave( and in some case they don't even stop). 'Banning' never gives them the oppurtunity to disrupt at any time. This would be greatly appreciated by us 'regulars'. So as you said, "I feel to see the drama", with all due respect that is because 99% of the time the drama isn't witnessed by the admins. I like to play, not record demos and look up guides and all that bullshit, I've wasted too much time as an admin at B2B doing that. It made the game not fun anymore for me. I was under the impression that the hard work had already been done on most of these a**holes.
Thanks again-WP

[MoFo Profile]

Wow. I've been called a hacker, a pussy, and whatever else I might have missed. Being called a hacker by anyone on ECGN doesn't really phase me at all. I've seen how they call out legit players, so almost all of them really have no idea of some players skill level. Like B getting sniped. Did she say I wasn't using a scope? She does know that it would say she was killed by a mauser and not a sniper rifle, right? Obviously not. What about the first 2 shots that missed. See what I'm talking about? No clue.

As for Joker's warning, I wasn't really bitching because I was angry. I just thought it was funny he would give such a global warning. He said 'anyone that switches gets banned'. So I called him out on it and told the server that he's full of crap, and that the warning was only meant for Rem and I. Flessan switched and nothing happened. Wasn't trying to be an ass as much as I was just trying to prove a point.

I dont always play w/ Rem on ECGN, but sometimes when he's bored, he'll come to pub w/ me. We've spend hours upon hours playing against each other (for players that think that we're not willing to play opposite eachother). We like playing together, and plus we're on the same vent. Sometimes players will think we're walling when we're really just calling shots out to each other. Plus we laugh together when players bitch about getting rolled by one of us. We're used to the hack accusation, so it's just funny to us.

Stacking teams is not our intention. First, there's only 2 of us on a 64 player server. Secondly, we wouldn't care if the admin put everyone on the other team. Give us a 20v2. We don't care. We like to play together.

It's funny how bias the admins are their. One time a guy called me a hacker and some other name, so I told him 'Do yourself a favor an stay on the beach'. First thing I said since I connected. And of course Chick mutes me. Then she pm's me that "I'm only allowed to play here because SHE allows it". Not to mention Mastery spamming pm's at me calling me a faggot. That and the whole Joker ordeal. The majority of the time, we'll stay quiet until someone starts up w/ us.

Well, it's been fun defending myself. Oh, and I just noticed that I got banned from ECGN via a router. GG's. Was it for the Joker incident? Well I was correct, so that would just be out of spite. Was it for hacking? Well, I'd have to hack first for that to be a good reason. For team stacking? Seeing how most of the time we make up about 5-10% of the server, that seems unlikely. If someone can figure it out, let me know.

MoFo

[=TAO=WARPIG Profile]

All your answers are right there in your bull**** post.
"some players skill level"
Next time I hear that I might ****ing puke.

[SavageParrot Profile]

There has to be a level of interaction and respect for the other players on the server, not just trying to make them /disconnect in a flood of tears...

If you still don't get that then you still don't deserve to play on the server, however dead the game may be you only make it worse.