water powered cars now a reality
Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:05 pm
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-764313,curpg-1.cms
If this isn't a hoax, it'll be one of the greatest inventions in quite some time.
Cross your fingers
If this isn't a hoax, it'll be one of the greatest inventions in quite some time.
Cross your fingers
Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:27 pm
It will turn out to be hoax, sad to say. A car that runs on hydrogen is a piece of cake, getting hydrogen out of H2O in an energy efficient manner is not so easy.
Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:35 pm
One problem they've always faced with Hydrogen based cars is it's extremely explosive. There have been rumors for years that the technology to make it happen functionally exists.
Sun Jul 04, 2004 3:39 pm
yes, in the article it states that the technology has been available for quite some time but wasn't produced because people were scared for their safety. The big "oil mafias" would come after them or something...
Never know, it could be true.
Never know, it could be true.
Sun Jul 04, 2004 3:52 pm
Iceland already has a commercial hydrogenfuelstation, adn hydrogen busses...
Sun Jul 04, 2004 8:02 pm
Canada: largest amount of fresh water in the world 
Errr.. wait... we might get invaded to protect our resources. I better hide my old fire-crackers....
Errr.. wait... we might get invaded to protect our resources. I better hide my old fire-crackers....
Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:08 am
Originally posted by Keekanoo
Canada: largest amount of fresh water in the world
Errr.. wait... we might get invaded to protect our resources. I better hide my old fire-crackers....
lol.. more likely you will NEVER see this car on the market. They have a highly efficient engine in the smithsonian that gets over 100mpg with over 200hp. This will be buried in the prospect of 'business interest'. Damnable corporations.
Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:17 am
Some guy invented the water powered car along time ago (saw on discovery). Think late 80's.
I guess they are still trying to make it more appealing to the public though since the original only went up to 60mph or so.
Although more likely is the business interest side of it. To much money in gas / oil ect atm and retooling all the factories and revamping the whole industry would take to much money.
I would buy one in a second if they hit the market.
I guess they are still trying to make it more appealing to the public though since the original only went up to 60mph or so.
Although more likely is the business interest side of it. To much money in gas / oil ect atm and retooling all the factories and revamping the whole industry would take to much money.
I would buy one in a second if they hit the market.
Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:20 am
This is a big time hoax!
when you burn hydrogen the result is power + H2O..
Surely you see that separating the hydrogen from the water is going to consume more energy than burning it releases. Not to even mention that no engine has ever been anywhere near 100% efficient... Guys do yourseves a favor and place this one on the shelf next to the perpetual motion devices.
Note: there are some feasible hydrogen solutions where hydrogen is extracted from oil
when you burn hydrogen the result is power + H2O..
Surely you see that separating the hydrogen from the water is going to consume more energy than burning it releases. Not to even mention that no engine has ever been anywhere near 100% efficient... Guys do yourseves a favor and place this one on the shelf next to the perpetual motion devices.
Note: there are some feasible hydrogen solutions where hydrogen is extracted from oil
Mon Jul 05, 2004 4:08 am
Whether this specific one is or not, there has been a functional water powered car.
I'll be damned if I see it on car lots in my lifetime though
I'll be damned if I see it on car lots in my lifetime though
Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:37 am
Originally posted by Zinger
This is a big time hoax!
when you burn hydrogen the result is power + H2O..
Surely you see that separating the hydrogen from the water is going to consume more energy than burning it releases. Not to even mention that no engine has ever been anywhere near 100% efficient... Guys do yourseves a favor and place this one on the shelf next to the perpetual motion devices.
Note: there are some feasible hydrogen solutions where hydrogen is extracted from oil
I beleive Iceland seperates this using waterturbines. Complete clean way of doing it.
Mon Jul 05, 2004 8:04 am
ok suppose we close the system. Whether you burn the hydrogen or use
it in a fuel cell, water results from using hydrogen as an energy source. Therefore you can simply take the exhaust water generated by the engine and use that for fuel. You now have an engine that requires no external fuel source and produces energy until the parts wear out. Do you REALLY believe that this is possible?
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edit: I just checked the source article and though they never mention the words "perpetual motion" indeed this is what they are claiming!
from the original article
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It is thought to update BMW's sleek hydrogen-powered road monster, the 745h, by converting water into hydrogen and oxygen, which is burned in a normal internal combustion engine. It then recycles its main byproduct - water.
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it in a fuel cell, water results from using hydrogen as an energy source. Therefore you can simply take the exhaust water generated by the engine and use that for fuel. You now have an engine that requires no external fuel source and produces energy until the parts wear out. Do you REALLY believe that this is possible?
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edit: I just checked the source article and though they never mention the words "perpetual motion" indeed this is what they are claiming!
from the original article
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It is thought to update BMW's sleek hydrogen-powered road monster, the 745h, by converting water into hydrogen and oxygen, which is burned in a normal internal combustion engine. It then recycles its main byproduct - water.
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Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:22 pm
no. If you extract hydrogen from it you have oxygen left over as exhaust. Any hydrogen left over might recombine to make more water but eventualy the hydrogen atoms will loose to much energy and not be usefull anymore.
Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:48 pm
Put this in the file with the 100 mpg carburetors......
Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:54 pm
This will not happen. Think of what this would do to our economy and gas companies. Our nation is not ready for this even if it isn't a hoax.