need an opinion on a new system
Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:30 pm
http://www.pricerunner.com/pi/223-926150/Desktop-Computers/Acer-Aspire-AMD-Athlon-64-X2-5000-2.6GHz-2048MB-400GB-DVDRW-WinVista-Home-Premium-Product-Info
lookin at buyin this... goodbuy??? or royal reaming?
lookin at buyin this... goodbuy??? or royal reaming?
Re: need an opinion on a new system
Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:34 pm
nice specs, is the board any good? other than that looks like an OK price, acer is rather generic but should be fine, any schmoe should piece a PC together correctly
Re: need an opinion on a new system
Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:14 pm
I've heard Acer is having big time problems with Vista.
I think it's mostly with their laptops, but Acer is one major company actively campaigning agsinst Vista. If you can opt for (or finagle your own version) go for XP on it, or at least have that option to fall back on.
Also, they never mention the hard drive's interface or rotational speed (I just checked it and it is SATA). Now-a-days, you want SATA drives and a rotational speed of at least 5400rpm (if you get a bottom of the barrel 4200rpm drive you'll regret it).
Also the graphics card's memory is "semi-shared', which I believe is a sneaky way of saying it's an on-board adapter stealing up to 512MB of system RAM.
I think it's mostly with their laptops, but Acer is one major company actively campaigning agsinst Vista. If you can opt for (or finagle your own version) go for XP on it, or at least have that option to fall back on.
Also, they never mention the hard drive's interface or rotational speed (I just checked it and it is SATA). Now-a-days, you want SATA drives and a rotational speed of at least 5400rpm (if you get a bottom of the barrel 4200rpm drive you'll regret it).
Also the graphics card's memory is "semi-shared', which I believe is a sneaky way of saying it's an on-board adapter stealing up to 512MB of system RAM.
Re: need an opinion on a new system
Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:53 am
well is there any other pc's out there that will work for me???
i need to stay under 800.. and i want something fast.. i dont mind upgrading a video card. i would like at least 2 gigs of ram and a 320gb hd..
any suggestions??
i need to stay under 800.. and i want something fast.. i dont mind upgrading a video card. i would like at least 2 gigs of ram and a 320gb hd..
any suggestions??
Re: need an opinion on a new system
Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:36 am
http://www.pricerunner.com/cl/223/Desktop-Computers?price_min=&price_max=1000&sort=5&saved_products=0&a_2277=PC&a_2279=AMD+Athlon+64+X2&a_2280=gte%3B2.0&a_2281=gte%3B2048&a_2282=gte%3B320.0
i compiled another list.. most of theise im ok with .. but im not sure what im looking at... i have an agp card and i already know im not gonna need it on the new box cause i want to change over to pci-e . however i probally wont be able to upgrade right away will an onboard 6150 nvidia play bf2 till i get another vga card???
i compiled another list.. most of theise im ok with .. but im not sure what im looking at... i have an agp card and i already know im not gonna need it on the new box cause i want to change over to pci-e . however i probally wont be able to upgrade right away will an onboard 6150 nvidia play bf2 till i get another vga card???
Re: need an opinion on a new system
Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:24 am
This is the computer that I have which is in the list you provided and I have no problem playing games from BF2142-Halo2, but you're still going to need a video card, and a monitor, so I hope this helps. As for video I'm useing an Ati x1300 but want a DX10 card.
HP Pavilion a1730n AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ 2.4GHz / 2048MB / 320GB / DVDRW / Win Vista Home Premium
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Re: need an opinion on a new system
Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:45 am
If you want to put a computer together:
Newegg.com
Lite-On 20X DVD-+R w/lightscribe - $34.99
Seagate 500GB HDD(ST3500630AS) $120 - $15(using PPAL808HDD02, and paypal to checkout)
Gigabyte GA-M57SLI AM2 nForce 570 MoBo - $95(110-15instant)
Microsoft XP Pro 64bit OEM $140(Vista Home for $95)
Combo Deal:
1. AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Windsor (ADA5200CSBOX)
2. Corsair XMS 2GB(2 x 1GB) 240-pin DDR2 800 (TWIN2X2048-6400C4)
Total: $204 - Addditional 30 MIR
Combo Deal:
1. EVGA 7600GT 256MB 128-bit PCI-E
2. Rosewill RD600N-2DB-SL-BK 600W PSU
Total: $163 - Additional $15 MIR
Total: $757 before shipping($20)
$742 with paypal
$697 with paypal and after MIR
Newegg.com
Lite-On 20X DVD-+R w/lightscribe - $34.99
Seagate 500GB HDD(ST3500630AS) $120 - $15(using PPAL808HDD02, and paypal to checkout)
Gigabyte GA-M57SLI AM2 nForce 570 MoBo - $95(110-15instant)
Microsoft XP Pro 64bit OEM $140(Vista Home for $95)
Combo Deal:
1. AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Windsor (ADA5200CSBOX)
2. Corsair XMS 2GB(2 x 1GB) 240-pin DDR2 800 (TWIN2X2048-6400C4)
Total: $204 - Addditional 30 MIR
Combo Deal:
1. EVGA 7600GT 256MB 128-bit PCI-E
2. Rosewill RD600N-2DB-SL-BK 600W PSU
Total: $163 - Additional $15 MIR
Total: $757 before shipping($20)
$742 with paypal
$697 with paypal and after MIR
Re: need an opinion on a new system
Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:46 pm
Donkey,
Looks like Wes has the right idea, if you are up to building it yourself. DIY brand is always the best, because you usually buy better parts than in a mass-produced system with better drivers. Plus you keep rebuilding on the same platform and save some $ next time. My current case Antec1040B has seen 4 motherboards and 2 Power supplies. You will also learn a lot about your system.
Check out the thread in the BF2 section where people posted their rigs. You can see their complete build, then price it out. You can pm them to get their opinion on how their rig is. Don't build a Athlon 939pin rig the processors are not being made anymore. If you got AMD go with the AM2 pin format.
-I can see this now. A bunch of us techs helping Donkey over webcam...
Looks like Wes has the right idea, if you are up to building it yourself. DIY brand is always the best, because you usually buy better parts than in a mass-produced system with better drivers. Plus you keep rebuilding on the same platform and save some $ next time. My current case Antec1040B has seen 4 motherboards and 2 Power supplies. You will also learn a lot about your system.
Check out the thread in the BF2 section where people posted their rigs. You can see their complete build, then price it out. You can pm them to get their opinion on how their rig is. Don't build a Athlon 939pin rig the processors are not being made anymore. If you got AMD go with the AM2 pin format.
-I can see this now. A bunch of us techs helping Donkey over webcam...
Re: need an opinion on a new system
Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:12 pm
the words wtf is that and wtf is this for come to mind
i know i can swap a video card and slap in some memory..
im not sure if i should try to put a chip in a mobo.. i have fat fingers.. and its alot diffrent from working on my old dodge
i know i can swap a video card and slap in some memory..
im not sure if i should try to put a chip in a mobo.. i have fat fingers.. and its alot diffrent from working on my old dodge
Re: need an opinion on a new system
Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:31 pm
and then theres the os
Re: need an opinion on a new system
Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:51 am
https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/TemporaryWishList.asp
thinking about a self build now can anyone tell me if all of these parts will work togeather? or other parts that i need?.. no rush. it will probaly take 6 months for me to pay for all this
thinking about a self build now can anyone tell me if all of these parts will work togeather? or other parts that i need?.. no rush. it will probaly take 6 months for me to pay for all this
Re: need an opinion on a new system
Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:00 am
donkey_nutz wrote:https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/TemporaryWishList.asp
thinking about a self build now can anyone tell me if all of these parts will work togeather? or other parts that i need?.. no rush. it will probaly take 6 months for me to pay for all this
Donkey nothing listed. This is what it says.
Below are your temporary wish list items. Items in this list will not be viewable on another computer and will be deleted within 30 days unless you add them to a saved wish list. If your browser cookies are cleared, your temporary list will be lost too. Please note that adding an item to a saved or temporary wish list does not guarantee availability or price.
This wish list is empty.
Re: need an opinion on a new system
Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:06 pm
Tchinnychin wrote:This wish list is empty.
That's not all that is empty.
Re: need an opinion on a new system
Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:12 pm
sigh
Re: need an opinion on a new system
Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:14 pm
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