Wahoo! American Politics!
Tue Feb 17, 2004 2:22 pm
Update on the upcoming election!
George Bush has released documents showing he served in the Texas Air National Guard during Vietnam, for some reason they can't seem to find anyone who remembers seeing him there.
Then we have John Kerry, running on a partial platform of how he was a Vietnam "hero", said this after returning from the war and posing in pictures with Jane Fonda (better know to an older generation as "Hanoi Jane")
..."Dressed in his combat fatigues and ribbons, he told Congress that U.S. soldiers had "raped, cut off ears, cut off heads … randomly shot at civilians … in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan." He later acknowledged that he did not witness the crimes himself but had heard about them from others. "...
Later at a demonstration on the steps of the capital he threw his medals on the grounds with several other veterans and walked away. Evidentally though he threw some other guys medals away and kept his so he could hang them on his office wall once elected.
And during the MIA/POW hearings at the very end of the eighties beginning of the nineties he ramrodded thru decisions to announce there was no evidence of POW/MIA's in Viet Nam in order normalize relations with them. Even though there was some evidence. He then had documents that could show this destroyed!
Way to hold the faith with your fellow soldier you absolutely worthless F&#*$.
Why the hell is anyone making an issue of wether Georgie porgie puddin pie was in the guard or Kerry was a two-faced back-stabbing idiot. We had Clinton in twice and he didn't even try to cover the fact he didn't even want to come close to serving. Here Bill take another toke.
As many of you younger voters voting for the first time (hopefully) you are going to find that you aren't neccesarily voting for the best guy, you voting for the lesser of two evils. The curse and burden of modern Democracy in America.
George Bush has released documents showing he served in the Texas Air National Guard during Vietnam, for some reason they can't seem to find anyone who remembers seeing him there.
Then we have John Kerry, running on a partial platform of how he was a Vietnam "hero", said this after returning from the war and posing in pictures with Jane Fonda (better know to an older generation as "Hanoi Jane")
..."Dressed in his combat fatigues and ribbons, he told Congress that U.S. soldiers had "raped, cut off ears, cut off heads … randomly shot at civilians … in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan." He later acknowledged that he did not witness the crimes himself but had heard about them from others. "...
Later at a demonstration on the steps of the capital he threw his medals on the grounds with several other veterans and walked away. Evidentally though he threw some other guys medals away and kept his so he could hang them on his office wall once elected.
And during the MIA/POW hearings at the very end of the eighties beginning of the nineties he ramrodded thru decisions to announce there was no evidence of POW/MIA's in Viet Nam in order normalize relations with them. Even though there was some evidence. He then had documents that could show this destroyed!
Way to hold the faith with your fellow soldier you absolutely worthless F&#*$.
Why the hell is anyone making an issue of wether Georgie porgie puddin pie was in the guard or Kerry was a two-faced back-stabbing idiot. We had Clinton in twice and he didn't even try to cover the fact he didn't even want to come close to serving. Here Bill take another toke.
As many of you younger voters voting for the first time (hopefully) you are going to find that you aren't neccesarily voting for the best guy, you voting for the lesser of two evils. The curse and burden of modern Democracy in America.
Tue Feb 17, 2004 2:23 pm
nice choices we have huh.
Re: Wahoo! American Politics!
Tue Feb 17, 2004 2:38 pm
Originally posted by Colonel Ingus
Update on the upcoming election!
George Bush has released documents showing he served in the Texas Air National Guard during Vietnam, for some reason they can't seem to find anyone who remembers seeing him there.
Then we have John Kerry, running on a partial platform of how he was a Vietnam "hero", said this after returning from the war and posing in pictures with Jane Fonda (better know to an older generation as "Hanoi Jane")
..."Dressed in his combat fatigues and ribbons, he told Congress that U.S. soldiers had "raped, cut off ears, cut off heads … randomly shot at civilians … in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan." He later acknowledged that he did not witness the crimes himself but had heard about them from others. "...
Later at a demonstration on the steps of the capital he threw his medals on the grounds with several other veterans and walked away. Evidentally though he threw some other guys medals away and kept his so he could hang them on his office wall once elected.
And during the MIA/POW hearings at the very end of the eighties beginning of the nineties he ramrodded thru decisions to announce there was no evidence of POW/MIA's in Viet Nam in order normalize relations with them. Even though there was some evidence. He then had documents that could show this destroyed!
Way to hold the faith with your fellow soldier you absolutely worthless F&#*$.
Why the hell is anyone making an issue of wether Georgie porgie puddin pie was in the guard or Kerry was a two-faced back-stabbing idiot. We had Clinton in twice and he didn't even try to cover the fact he didn't even want to come close to serving. Here Bill take another toke.
As many of you younger voters voting for the first time (hopefully) you are going to find that you aren't neccesarily voting for the best guy, you voting for the lesser of two evils. The curse and burden of modern Democracy in America.
Nice post. And as I'll be a first time presidential voter this coming election, I do know I'll be voting for the lesser of two evils. The guy I want to vote for doesn't exist.
Re: Re: Wahoo! American Politics!
Tue Feb 17, 2004 2:56 pm
Originally posted by Xenius
Nice post. And as I'll be a first time presidential voter this coming election, I do know I'll be voting for the lesser of two evils. The guy I want to vote for doesn't exist.
I'm sure he does exist - he's just too smart to want to be President. Either that, or he values his and his family's privacy too much to want such a terrible job.
Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:03 pm
I read on the drudge report that the picture of Kerry standing next to "Hanoi Jane" was doctored.
Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:19 pm
I'm doing what I do every election - voting for myself. Though I doubt I'll be elected, I can say "Yes, I voted.", and I can also say "Well, at least I didn't vote for him" regardless of who wins.
Unless of course, through some strange turn of events, I win... in which case we're all screwed.
Unless of course, through some strange turn of events, I win... in which case we're all screwed.
Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:21 pm
Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:27 pm
Typical pre-election mud-slinging......
Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:04 pm
Who the hell do i vote for...I was going to vote for kerry, but i just don't know any more 
Both of them are two-faced
Both of them are two-faced
Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:25 pm
I have a good friend who served in Viet Nam. His position on flag burning - "I went to Viet Nam to preserve your right to burn the American flag." Kerry, and other vets, have as much of a right, if not more to protest war.
POW/MIA - There were far more MIAs in WW2 than Viet Nam. Why do we forget them and focus so rigorously on Viet Nam?
Jim
POW/MIA - There were far more MIAs in WW2 than Viet Nam. Why do we forget them and focus so rigorously on Viet Nam?
Jim
Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:31 pm
MIAs
DoD Unaccounted-For Personnel 'Official' Figures: As of 14 JAN 04 from http://www.aiipowmia.com/stats.html
SEA: 1,870 (South East Asia)
Korea: 8,100
Cold War: 126
WW II: 78,773
WW I: 4,452
DoD Unaccounted-For Personnel 'Official' Figures: As of 14 JAN 04 from http://www.aiipowmia.com/stats.html
SEA: 1,870 (South East Asia)
Korea: 8,100
Cold War: 126
WW II: 78,773
WW I: 4,452
Re: Re: Wahoo! American Politics!
Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:56 pm
Originally posted by Xenius
Nice post. And as I'll be a first time presidential voter this coming election, I do know I'll be voting for the lesser of two evils. The guy I want to vote for doesn't exist.
All candiadates currently running for 2004...
http://www.vote-smart.org/election_president.php
Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:21 pm
I understand what you are saying Jim but to say something like
Thats a pretty serious charge to level against guys who were drafted and never wanted to be there in the first place. And then to say something like .. well i didn't see that I just heard about it.
Typically two faced politician.
And thanks for the clarification there Folic. I got that article off of Yahoo news.
..."Dressed in his combat fatigues and ribbons, he told Congress that U.S. soldiers had "raped, cut off ears, cut off heads … randomly shot at civilians … in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan." He later acknowledged that he did not witness the crimes himself but had heard about them from others. "...
Thats a pretty serious charge to level against guys who were drafted and never wanted to be there in the first place. And then to say something like .. well i didn't see that I just heard about it.
Typically two faced politician.
And thanks for the clarification there Folic. I got that article off of Yahoo news.
Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:40 pm
I have made a vow to avoid the policital threads, so this attachment is all I am going to say. I also reserve the right to gloat for a period not to exceed three days beginning on November 3, 2004.
Tue Feb 17, 2004 6:35 pm
I like what some commentator said about the 2000 election, it was a choice between the evil of two lessers.
Anybody else read the article in Scientific American magazine about an alternative voting method using rankings? Doubt it will see national use any time soon, but perhaps it could find use in local elections... although I doubt the current parties would allow such a bill to pass in any legislature.
(Note: you need to be a subscriber to read it online.)
Anybody else read the article in Scientific American magazine about an alternative voting method using rankings? Doubt it will see national use any time soon, but perhaps it could find use in local elections... although I doubt the current parties would allow such a bill to pass in any legislature.
(Note: you need to be a subscriber to read it online.)