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by **Camel toe joe** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:52 pm

Ok Here we go:

Well to start off I have , sadly, decided to stay in PR for a couple of more years, so my house gains equity, before I move back to NJ. I am stil going to plan to make it to the ECGN sausge part in August.

Ok so many of you know about me and my crappy ISP, I have been tring to figure out where the problem is so I can get it fixed. If the patch panel I have in my house had gotten wet so I though this was the problem by i made som changes to take that problem out of the equation. So i was pinging #1 to see if I could get some game timein just before but my pink was in the 4 didgits(not good) so i called my neighbor and asked if he could ping something for me, he said he was Dling something at the moment I told him to ping anyway he did and got 4 digit ping as well. Next i asked him to pause the Dl(he uses a download acce proggy) mean while i'm still pinging.. right after he stops his DL my ping shoots back to 100. I tell him to resume, shoots make up 1000+ so now I know the problem is with my ISP. I"m not that knowlegeble when it comes to networking but I figure it has to be

A. my ISP doesn't have enough bandwith for the both of us.
B. my ISP has a poorly configured router
C. both A and B

If any of you guys know what else it can be please post so I have more info to fight with my ISP

Thanks in advance.

PS I have no other choice for isp at this time, nor can I move back to NJ at this time :mad:

Coconut water anyone?

by **Colonel Ingus** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:02 am

Kind of a wierd question but what does your ISP use to commmunicate to the mainland?

Puerto Rico is what? 100-150 miles away from Florida? Maybe 1800 miles to Virginia? If your ISP is bouncing of a satellite then it is 22,500 miles up and 22,500 miles down and that can explain the ping. One of the reasons I have never been big on Sattelite modems.

With the exception of some quantum physic applications time of transmittal is still a function of distance.

by **shockwave203** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:04 am

^ that sounds logical, but the fact that his ping was lowered to 100 after his neighbor paused the download means something is up.

camel, I don't know how you do it. without my daily dose of BFV, I think I'd go crazy

by **Ralph Wiggum** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:34 am

I know it may not be easy to consider since you are apparently on good terms with him, but have you thought about taking out your neighbor?

by **Bagginses** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:38 am

Originally posted by Ralph Wiggum
I know it may not be easy to consider since you are apparently on good terms with him, but have you thought about taking out your neighbor?

That's always a good solution. If you're ISP can't fix it, fix it yourself. :ar15:

-Bagginses

by **Bossman** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:07 am

Originally posted by Ralph Wiggum
I know it may not be easy to consider since you are apparently on good terms with him, but have you thought about taking out your neighbor?

by **Camel toe joe** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:12 am

Originally posted by Ralph Wiggum
I know it may not be easy to consider since you are apparently on good terms with him, but have you thought about taking out your neighbor?

I knew someone would think that I know i did

by **Murgatroyd** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:44 am

is it cable or DSL? if it's cable, might have to do with signal strength

by **TeamFHA|Aragorn** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:01 pm

Originally posted by Camel toe joe

A. my ISP doesn't have enough bandwith for the both of us.
B. my ISP has a poorly configured router
C. both A and B

I'm going to lean towards A. See, they probably have a limited pipe to the node that serves your neighborhood or your suburb or whatever. And when your neighbor downloads at high speed, then your pings go through the roof.

If this were happening in the U.S. I would tend to _not_ believe this would be the case - typically the Comcast and other large cable companies plan adequately for these things and have the capital to back up the initial infastructure expenditure. In Puerto Rico I'd imagine it is different though. I would imagine that there is _not_ a virtually limitless pipe to your neighborhoo due to either the technology being used or the actual physicial transport medium.

If I were you I'd contact your ISP and say 'I've been having problems with extremely high latency - After troubleshooting my local network for a significant length of time, and after enlisting the help of my neighbor, I've come to realize that my pings soar through the roof and I have no throughput when my neighbor is downloading. It's almost as if you guys do not have adequate capacity to my neighborhood. Fix it!'

Of course you probably shoudl further test the following:

A. Have your friend start a large download from a fast site so he is achieving significant throughput
- note your pings

If your pings are high when he is downloading, proceed to B and C. If your pings are not high at this time, then the pipe to your neighborhood may not be saturated at that particular time and thus it isn't a good time to troubleshoot.

B. While your neighbor is downloading, YOU start up a download to a site that can serve content fast.
- note your download speed
- AND have your friend note whether his DL speed decreases or not

C. Then have your neighbor stop his download and see if your download speed starts to increase.

Then you can gain a better idea of whether or not its a capacity issue into your neighborhood.

Mike

by **Bossman** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:08 pm

That's a lot of work...... I agree with Ralphy, just take him out, it's easier :ar15:

by **hightimber** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:18 pm

Originally posted by Ralph Wiggum
I know it may not be easy to consider since you are apparently on good terms with him, but have you thought about taking out your neighbor?

Yeah, dinner and movie might coerce him to knock off the whole downloading thing. You might also offer him some kind of nightcap to seal the deal.

by **MMmmGood** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:24 pm

Originally posted by TeamFHA|Aragorn
I'm going to lean towards A. See, they probably have a limited pipe to the node that serves your neighborhood or your suburb or whatever. And when your neighbor downloads at high speed, then your pings go through the roof.

If this were happening in the U.S. I would tend to _not_ believe this would be the case - typically the Comcast and other large cable companies plan adequately for these things and have the capital to back up the initial infastructure expenditure. In Puerto Rico I'd imagine it is different though. I would imagine that there is _not_ a virtually limitless pipe to your neighborhoo due to either the technology being used or the actual physicial transport medium.

If I were you I'd contact your ISP and say 'I've been having problems with extremely high latency - After troubleshooting my local network for a significant length of time, and after enlisting the help of my neighbor, I've come to realize that my pings soar through the roof and I have no throughput when my neighbor is downloading. It's almost as if you guys do not have adequate capacity to my neighborhood. Fix it!'

Of course you probably shoudl further test the following:

A. Have your friend start a large download from a fast site so he is achieving significant throughput
- note your pings

If your pings are high when he is downloading, proceed to B and C. If your pings are not high at this time, then the pipe to your neighborhood may not be saturated at that particular time and thus it isn't a good time to troubleshoot.

B. While your neighbor is downloading, YOU start up a download to a site that can serve content fast.
- note your download speed
- AND have your friend note whether his DL speed decreases or not

C. Then have your neighbor stop his download and see if your download speed starts to increase.

Then you can gain a better idea of whether or not its a capacity issue into your neighborhood.

Mike

I agree. Test it this way. This will prove whether or not its a capacity issue.

by **Ralph Wiggum** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:13 pm

I meant "take out" in the Sopranos since, not "put out." But now that I think about it: how bad do you want your internet access Camel?

by **Agent-Commando** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:19 pm

Originally posted by Ralph Wiggum
I meant "take out" in the Sopranos since, not "put out." But now that I think about it: how bad do you want your internet access Camel?

I'd do both, take out, then put out... :rotflmao:

by **Sgt. Quentin** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:46 pm

Take out, Put out, is his wife good looking?

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