UN Scandal
32 posts
• Page 3 of 3 • 1, 2, 3
- SavageParrot
-
- Posts: 10599
- Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2003 5:42 pm
- Location: Cheltenham, England
by SavageParrot » Sat May 01, 2004 5:32 pm
Originally posted by Chacal
I'll drink a Guiness to that.
If you drank 48 pints and washed it down wit a pint of milk you would have your RDA of everything, although your liver might hurt a little bit the morning after. Still as they say no pain no gain!
by PudriK » Sat May 01, 2004 9:54 pm
As for nethertopiary 
, a campaign slogan:
Bush and Dick, the way god intended.
OK, to the points...
Turn our people over to the Hague? Are you mad? Look at how long it's taking them to try Milosevic. How is it a double-standard? We want the Iraqis to try Saddam, not the Hague. We want Americans tried by Americans.
These guys need good, ol' fashioned American justice, to show the world that we do practice what we preach, to uphold American sovereignty over our citizens, and to give them the punishment they deserve. We take care of our own!
People are human, mostly ignorant, with good sides and bad, easily misled, and capable of great kindness and horrible atrocity. A few of our fellow Americans let themselves slide into the same sort of behavior that we have seen before in our frat houses, police stations, and football teams. Anyone ever done a crossing of the line ceremony? Been to summer camp? All humans are capable of this... look inside yourself, and realize that even you could gradually slide into this behavior, if those around you reinforced it, fed on it, accepted it.
There are three tragedies here.
One, the soldiers who did this. This is a prime example of poor leadership and supervision. Grunts do stupid things sometimes, but it is up to the seargents and the officers to look out for them, and keep them in line. Their leadership failed them. These soldiers will have to live with the shame of what they did to another human, what they did to their country, and what they let themselves become. They deserve their punishment, and so does their chain of command. Think of what they have to look forward to come home to.
Two, in all the news coverage, we are not hearing any of the positive stories. The soldiers giving away food, the doctors taking care of wounded insurgents, the contractors rebuilding the country. Make no mistake, it is happening, and no one is telling these stories. You have to distill them from the news, read between the lines.
Three, the prisoners. This was our opportunity to show these men how civilized people take care of their enemies, to teach them that we do not hate them, and set an example for them to follow when this is over. How will we make up for this? How do we right this wrong?
I leave with this final thought.
To understand the insurgency, you must place yourself in their position. What if Russia had taken over the U.S., deposed our President, and promised to help us set up a Government in our best interest? Would you work with them? Or would you grab a rifle, and take pot-shots at passing Communist patrols? Religion, politics, even self-interest aside, we are foreigners in their land--even if they are better off, they will never thank us for it.
, a campaign slogan:
Bush and Dick, the way god intended.
OK, to the points...
Turn our people over to the Hague? Are you mad? Look at how long it's taking them to try Milosevic. How is it a double-standard? We want the Iraqis to try Saddam, not the Hague. We want Americans tried by Americans.
These guys need good, ol' fashioned American justice, to show the world that we do practice what we preach, to uphold American sovereignty over our citizens, and to give them the punishment they deserve. We take care of our own!
People are human, mostly ignorant, with good sides and bad, easily misled, and capable of great kindness and horrible atrocity. A few of our fellow Americans let themselves slide into the same sort of behavior that we have seen before in our frat houses, police stations, and football teams. Anyone ever done a crossing of the line ceremony? Been to summer camp? All humans are capable of this... look inside yourself, and realize that even you could gradually slide into this behavior, if those around you reinforced it, fed on it, accepted it.
There are three tragedies here.
One, the soldiers who did this. This is a prime example of poor leadership and supervision. Grunts do stupid things sometimes, but it is up to the seargents and the officers to look out for them, and keep them in line. Their leadership failed them. These soldiers will have to live with the shame of what they did to another human, what they did to their country, and what they let themselves become. They deserve their punishment, and so does their chain of command. Think of what they have to look forward to come home to.
Two, in all the news coverage, we are not hearing any of the positive stories. The soldiers giving away food, the doctors taking care of wounded insurgents, the contractors rebuilding the country. Make no mistake, it is happening, and no one is telling these stories. You have to distill them from the news, read between the lines.
Three, the prisoners. This was our opportunity to show these men how civilized people take care of their enemies, to teach them that we do not hate them, and set an example for them to follow when this is over. How will we make up for this? How do we right this wrong?
I leave with this final thought.
To understand the insurgency, you must place yourself in their position. What if Russia had taken over the U.S., deposed our President, and promised to help us set up a Government in our best interest? Would you work with them? Or would you grab a rifle, and take pot-shots at passing Communist patrols? Religion, politics, even self-interest aside, we are foreigners in their land--even if they are better off, they will never thank us for it.
PudriK
("Pudd-rick")
Irregular player since 2003
("Pudd-rick")
Irregular player since 2003
32 posts
• Page 3 of 3 • 1, 2, 3
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 17 guests