This makes me sick....

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This makes me sick....

Postby Tommy Boy » Tue May 18, 2004 8:28 am

This makes me so sick. How can anyone be so peverted?

Man, 33, accused of luring 4-year-old on Internet

A Canadian man has been charged in the United States with attempting to arrange a sexual encounter with a four-year-old girl over the Internet and showing up to meet her with a car full of ''devices intended to abuse and entice his victim.''

William Krygsman, 33, of Tillsonburg, Ont., southeast of London, was arrested by FBI officials in Atlanta Saturday after a three-week investigation by a special Internet luring task force.

According to Special Agent Steve Lazarus, an FBI spokesman in Atlanta, a man initiated a conversation via the Internet last month with a woman he believed was the child's mother to arrange a sexual encounter with the little girl.

But he was actually speaking with an undercover FBI agent.

When the man arrived at an Atlanta-area restaurant on Saturday, he was arrested and FBI officials searched his car.

"When an inventory of his vehicle was conducted -- and I'm not going to get into the specifics . . . because it's just kind of gross -- we found a number of articles, materials and devices that were clearly intended to be used to abuse and entice his victim in a sexual manner," Special Agent Lazarus said.

He added the arrest is not considered entrapment because the man "initiated the contact and he was the one who made all the suggestions about how the sexual encounter should go."

Entrapment is defined as inducing someone who is not otherwise predisposed to commit a crime, Special Agent Lazarus said.

"The reason the sting works is because there really is this seedy disgusting underworld where this kind of stuff goes on. People . . . expect to find this because either they've done it before or their buddies have done it before," he said.

Mr. Krygsman is currently listed as president and chief executive of Superior Polymer Systems Inc., a small London, Ont.-based tool and die company.

Officials at the firm could not be reached for comment last night.

"The nature of these crimes, they're very scary," Special Agent Lazarus said. "The Internet . . . provides a very ready access for these predators to find these victims."

Mr. Krygsman appeared before U.S. Magistrate Judge Gerrilyn Brill yesterday and is being held pending a bond hearing scheduled for later this week. He has been charged with using the Internet to arrange illegal sexual activity with a minor. Canadian authorities are not believed to be involved in the investigation.

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Postby Agent-Commando » Tue May 18, 2004 8:50 am

Tommy you wouldn't believe how many sickos there are out there...

There is a site called http://www.perverted-justice.com that has a bunch of old men going after minors list from various chat rooms across the net, except they do not know the so called minors in yahoo chat rooms or AOL are actually people undercover putting a stop to these sick mother-$#@%$#$-ers! They have a woman acting as a kid with a phone line to verify these mofos and..well, i'll let u see it for urself...

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Postby Camel toe joe » Tue May 18, 2004 2:53 pm

damn I wouldn't think a 4 yr old could type:confused:

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Postby Murgatroyd » Tue May 18, 2004 3:00 pm

Originally posted by Camel toe joe
damn I wouldn't think a 4 yr old could type:confused:


Yeah, that's what I thought...

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Postby Tommy Boy » Tue May 18, 2004 3:04 pm

man, that site is amazing...what a disgrace to humanity!

It makes me sick thinking that sick bastards like that are out there...

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Postby Colonel Ingus » Tue May 18, 2004 3:53 pm

Hence the need for retro-active abortions.
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Postby SavageParrot » Tue May 18, 2004 4:44 pm

I knew it corporate heads are all in league with satan. 'Angel' was right!
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Postby Chacal » Tue May 18, 2004 5:25 pm

Originally posted by Camel toe joe
damn I wouldn't think a 4 yr old could type:confused:


Actually he thought he was arranging the rape with the girl's mother.

Yes there are sickos out there.

I just hope the lawmakers stay focused on the fact that it's the man, not the internet, who's guilty. I fear these cases could be used to make a case for surveillance and censorship on the net.
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Postby Colonel Ingus » Tue May 18, 2004 5:34 pm

Ha! Posh on you Chacal! Surveillance on the Internet!

Why thats the craziest thing I have ever heard. Why to get something like that passed you would have to use some kindy of hokey name. Something with a name like "Patriot Act!"

Thats not gonna happen.......


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Postby Fat Bastard » Tue May 18, 2004 6:59 pm

Great site, guys like this just need to be shot on the spot.

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Surveillance on the Internet

Postby igloo17 » Tue May 18, 2004 7:21 pm

Surveillance on the Internet is already here, its been here for awhile, too bad you didnt already know.

http://stopcarnivore.org/

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Postby Chacal » Tue May 18, 2004 7:57 pm

Oh yeah, I know a good deal about Carnivore. The irony is, that thing is a lot worse than anything it could help uncover on the net, and I'm including terrorism, drug trade and kid porn.
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Postby RCglider » Tue May 18, 2004 8:06 pm

Michigan has a sex offender list available on the internet. The first time I looked at it I was shocked to see how many there are in our area

What makes anyone think internet surveillance is something new?

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Postby Chacal » Tue May 18, 2004 8:57 pm

Here in Canada it's still illegal to tap internet traffic without an explicit court order. No Carnivore here yet. The RCMP is trying to get the same special rights the FBI has.
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Postby Mugzy » Tue May 18, 2004 9:28 pm

The people doing this stuff should be shot, but the way the current sex laws work is no good.

One kid claims bob touched him and bobs life is ruined. His name is all over the news and he is already labeled a pervert/sex offender. The only thing an innocent judgment will help him avoid is jail time. By that time, he has lost his job etc.

Both the victim and the accused names should be kept out of the media till the trial is over.

i say this because I have an uncle going through this right now. The judge ended up tossing the whole thing because the stories of the daughters did not match. But his name as already been all over the news, and i am sure this judgment will not even make the back page of the paper.

The girls that accused him were his grand daughters, his lawyer says they sound coached. We all know that the dad (who was left by my uncles daughter) is just trying to get back at him.
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