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[Precision]

Originally posted by Lord ZOG
Man, where do I start with what Evan said?

Does your car make you feel like an idiot when you jump in it and go somewhere?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if you're knowledgable enough you can use Windows with little or no problems, but the bottom line is we're talking about appliances for the masses.

85% of the market haven't a clue what they're doing. They want to read their e-mail, look things up on the Internet, look at their digital photos and play games.

With MacIntosh PCs there seems to be very little in the way of people/entities trying to hawk their wares with every click of the button.

This is probably due more to the fact that MacIntosh PCs aren't as an attractive a target for hackers, but in my books, and in my line of business that's good enough reason for me to offer my clients an alternative they seem all-to-happy to accept.

Pretty much sums it up from a software point, but when was the last time you had to get your piece of hardware repaired?

For me, options are what sets apart the two systems. There are hundreds of PC manufactures and PC component manufactures out there to choke a mule. Where are the apple retails, where are their hardware manufactures?

A car may not make me feel stupid when I get in and drive it, but I sure do feel stupid when I can't get a part for it because it is a certain brand and no one else makes the parts for me to get. As a hardware repair tech, I fix both the mac daddys and the PC, and let me tell you, my mac customers simply have to pay out the arse to get their machines back up and running.

And maybe things have changed, but I have always had the perception that most macs are sold "as is" machines. The minute you want to go and upgrade components, you might as well go and buy another one.. which ain't cheap in most cases.

But what the hell, I know my shizzle around the computer, so do as you wish. I will continue happily charging my mac customers half their arm for their machine to be fixed.

Peace and mac grease!

Prec.

[Lord ZOG Profile]

Apple does have you by the balls when it comes to hardware (I'm trying to get the original Airport cards which they've apparently decided to stop making) BUT I believe wholeheartedly that the quality of their hardware far exceeds what you could get for a PC.

Apple controls the pricing, but they also have direct input for the quality of what they sell, and I think you can see that simply by holding any Apple component in your hand.

PCs have a great choice of both software AND hardware, but most if it just plain sucks. Period, end of story.

I ask my customers; "What's the biggest source of problems for your PC?" The answer is software. Too much poorly written, cobbled-together hackware.

Just because there's more of something doesn't make it better.

I tell my client to keep things simple, and not expect too much.

When people buy Apple, they get three things;

Quality
Style
Functionailty

When they buy PCs they get someone's idea of what a PC should be...most often filled to the brim with parts from what-ever truck crashed out front.

P.S.. Thanks for not taking what I said personally, Evan.

[LordShard]

That is why you don't buy fropm Dell. To much crapware installed on it from the get go drain rescources.

[Lord ZOG Profile]

Dell is probably the least guilty manufacturer of this. I've bought probably 500 Dells in the past few years.

They come with crap, but not as much as HP/Compaq or Toshiba do.

Although, I have noticed an alarming trend with brand new Dells coming right out of the Box with GTEK software (I believe this is the same company that used to be known as Gator, Gator Mountain Network and others).

[LordShard]

Ewwww. But I still hate computer manufacturers for it! :o

[MeatHead_NJ]

I support both mac and pc. I've been BI-kernel for 5 yrs now. Mac just sells a quality machine that the PC industry is trying to copy. I have a PC background since WFW3.1 and have never purchased a mac for myself.

I've read through some of the comments. Quite simply i would say a Mac is like a Lexus or Acrura. You really dont think of doing mod's to either when you walk into the showroom. You keep them for a long time, when your done with them someone else knows what they are buying and they know your not going to have to worry about them durring their lifecycle.

They are more secure, If you only have 1 out of 50 thiefs interested in disrupting your style of life you are safer.

PC well, you gotta love em, proof is in the forum.

And i think MicroSoft is still as sly as ever, An X box based off an IBM chipset, and developing office for osX is so like testing or copying the mac chipset for Windows Linux the reason they never did Outlook for mac is because they knew that entorgue kept Corprate Exec from experimenting.

I believe a fitting name for the Xbox 3rd Gen is going to be called the Deathstar and Windows Media should be named Hal.

and Dell, if your going to by a computer in a box, id go dell since compaq is now HP and HP has a history of sucking on the client end which is why i feel they snagged compaq.

[Lord ZOG Profile]

Well put, Meat.

I agree with the car analogy. Apples have a certain quality feel to them, often times in the form of the tiniest attention to detail.

A client of mine had one of the new iMac G5s that I had to install an Airport Extreme card into. Just looking at the all-in-one style I was dreading having to wrestle the thing to open the cover, but all I had to do was loosen two captured set-screws and the cover glided off like a well-oiled machine.

Even the power cord was blended into the back cover so perfectly that I thought it was permanently attached.

Their PowerBooks are beautiful as well as functional, and worth every penny Apple asks for them. I've sold 5 since I started pushing them 3 months ago and my clients are in love with them.

[LordShard]

Well gee. If your PC is so cluttered you can't get to anything in it, you got problems Zog.

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I built my PC, like any self-confident, PC user should. It's not as neat as an Alienware, but it's pretty darn uncluttered...