Barry Bonds

by **LeVar Burton** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:41 am

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/sportsbusiness/news/story?id=1777084

Not only did he juice out of his gourd to get the home run record, but hes pulled himself out of the normal MLB licensing agreements so he won't be in some video games that alot of his young fans buy.

I read this and it really pissed me off. If any of you guys go to any baseball games this year and see either Barry, Jason Giambi, or Gary Sheffield, make sure and give them a loud boo for me.

by **Drews** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:23 am

First off, I live in New York. I'm very disappointed how MLB lets Yankee's stack their team and not enforce a salary cap. It is really ruining the rest of the baseball. How can basball be exciting to all the other markets with all the best players on the Yankee's. Myself and a few friends have the same grudge. But living in New York Yankee fans can hate all players outside of the Yankee's. Case in point Roger Clemens, a player with Boston for years and hated by Yankee fans. Said he would never be a Yankee. Then got big pay check and chance to win a World series he came. Stupid ass fans embrassed him once he came.What a bunch of hypocrites. Very easy to jump on the band wagon if your team is stacked and doing good.

Spoken like a true Met Fan.

by **LeVar Burton** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:46 pm

Drews I wasn't wanting them booed because they're Yankees (Even though that is acceptable IMO.) I wanted them all booed because they were implicated in the BALCO investigation involving designer steroids, and especially Barry for this A-hole move.

by **Rule of Wrist** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:29 pm

Bah. Many, MANY pro athletes from all sports use roids, it's just that not everyone is prosecuting it as much as MLB is right now... anyone REALLY think that the NFL is roid free? Not me.

As far as roids affecting Bonds' records, I happen to agree with Ralph Wiley (a writer/columnist for ESPN), if all it took was roids to hit 700 homers, then everyone and their brother and their dogs and their brothers' dogs would be taking them. The guy can plain and simply hit; he might be the best hitter ever. And that is what pisses people off about him the most. Here's this arrogant asshole, and yet he might be the best ever... most people don't like that.

As far as him being a dick, that is a well established opinion shared by many... that said, when Michael Jordan was playing, I remember he did the same thing, many trading card companies and video game companies didn't have access to his likeness, for the simple reason that he was so big, that he could make more money by charging companies individually.

Ahh, baseball's a dying sport anyway. There are some things they could do to fix it (maybe) but they're too stupid to do them...

by **Sir Loin** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:08 pm

barry bonds, jason giambi, gary sheffield and probably hundreds of others should BE booed, but little kids think they are cool. The fact that they use steroids to acheive success and break records is totally idiotic. I wish they would be banned from baseball. Pete rose got banned for betting on baseball, but i guess its ok to be a drug abuser and play sports. Sometimes i dont get it. Hank aaron, along with all the players during the old days didnt have access to steroids, and look what they did. Aarons homerun record should stand, as long as barry bonds dies from an overdose, which is my wish. Also, i do agree with Rule, baseball to me, is a dying sport. Maybe we should see what Vince Mcman could do to help.

by **CozMoDan** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:39 pm

They all love the game until it time for the money talks and then its strike time. Sounds like my ex-wife.

by Conscious* » Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:49 pm

Answer is simple...watch Hockey, no bullshit there. As for baseball, I'm a Red Sox fan even though i live in NJ. (Also a Phillies fan, since we are the craziest fans in America.) I'm just waiting for the Red Sox to break the curse of the bambino because im tired of the yankees and their players. No steroids in hockey, as for baseball its clear that bonds has at least used them in the past five years.

by **Doyle Hargraves** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:03 pm

I agree. The first thing that MLB needs to do is test its players.. Then hire McMahan, Stonecold, and the Rock. Those guys will lay the smack down on Barry Bonds and those other jabronis.

by **SHWoff** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 5:23 pm

Originally posted by Doyle Hargraves
I agree. The first thing that MLB needs to do is test its players.. Then hire McMahan, Stonecold, and the Rock. Those guys will lay the smack down on Barry Bonds and those other jabronis.

I think the only thing McMahan, Stonecold, and the Rock would do for these guys is supply the steroids that they no longer can get from Balco.

if all it took was roids to hit 700 homers, then everyone and their brother and their dogs and their brothers' dogs would be taking them.

They are and they still can't hit 'em. Barry may be an @$$, but he worked his butt off and learned to hit - look who his father and godfather are. He's probably been swinging a bat since he was 2 (BTW. Dodgers/A's fan here so no emotional ties).

Now onto the steroid thing. I think if they had foolproof testing of steroids, thus causing steroid use to completely stop, interest in many of the sports requiring strength would decrease. Who wants to watch a bunch of 200-pounders playing football, lifting weights in the Olympics, or in professional wrestling? Sports is big business. Having the biggest, strongest, and fastest participants puts butts in the seats. If professional sports (and collegiate sports for that matter) was really interested in ridding themselves of performance enhancing drugs, the technology is certainly there to allow them to do so. My opinion is that the bar has been raised so high that there is fear that any less of a product will result in lower ticket sales.

by **Colonel Ingus** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:09 pm

Who wants to watch a bunch of 200-pounders playing football,

Er back before they were using steroids there were guys in the 250-300 plus range. Not to mention the NFL has the most stringent enhacements drugs policy and testing of any of the "professional" sports.

Is it used in the NFL. you betcha, thats why you see guys losing a playing year with attendant salary. Something Baseball appears inherently incapable of doing. They police themselves.

by **LeVar Burton** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:25 pm

I don't dispute the fact that steroids are used in practically all sports, but I think they should do everything possible to eliminate them. The NFL does test for steroids and I know that these designer steroids are hard to detect, but I think they should keep updating their techniques to find these guys. Then once they find them, I think they should be completely banned.

As for who wants to watch normal size people playing sports instead of some 325 pound freakshow that can run a 4.5 40, I do.

by **Drews** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:31 pm

Ahhh.. You know what I say F um that's right F um all, We should all get paid millions of dollars for playing sports. Better yet how about millions for playing Battlefield?

by **LeVar Burton** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:35 pm

I think you took my statement to mean normal as in you and me. I mean normal as in not having a needle in their ass. If you like the current state of sports where high school football and baseball players know that they have to juice to have a chance at the top colleges, then I'm beginning see where the problem starts.

by **-HaVoC-** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:38 pm

I think we should quit watching these over paid whiners and funding their new friggin Mercedes and houses in Aspen.

I think we should boycott em and watch the pro sports industry crumble.

I think we should then let them get off their fat over paid asses and go apply for a real job.

Then we'll really hear the bastards whine. "Oh gee honey we'll stretch the groceries in the frig to pay daycare this week." f%$^ overpaid whiny a$$ bitches.

That's what I think.

by Conscious* » Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:33 pm

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