Four Canadian Mounties die in shootout

by **cashcow** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:18 am

Originally posted by SGT DEVILDOG
Nope, but you see all kinds of people getting killed because of alcohol.

...just like during prohibition.

Wow.

by **shockwave203** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:47 am

Originally posted by :UnclSxyPants:
those men believed in keeping peace, and trying to help make Canada a safer place to live. they believed in that soo much that they became police officers. when they came to the desicion to become police officers they knew that in their line of work they would encounter drugs, so they obviously believed in keeping drugs such as marijuana illegal or they wouldnt have been on that farm that day. sadly they get killed. so if marijuana and other drugs are legalized then these police officers and hundreds probly thousands of them around the world that died in drug related cases died for nothing?
and if they do legalize drugs the governments just going to tax the hell out of it, although it would make places like BC a lot richer...

they didn't die for nothing. they died making this country a safer place, and as a result we should learn from this, and not ignore it.

do you really know how much drug money goes toward organized crime? a lot. if pot were to be legalized, it would reduce the amount of money that props up organized crime, making this country safer for everyone.

yeah marijuana is a gateway drug- but tell me how many of your friends have already tried it. i'm 20, i was only in highschool 2 years ago- and TONS of people did it, frequently. it's easier for kids to buy pot than it is for them to get alcohol for heavens sake!!

legalizing pot isn't going to drive up user rates, because it's already easy to buy and available no matter where you live. as it stands right now, if you want to try it, you can because it's everywhere. why should that money fund crime when it can make revenue for the government instead? why shouldn't that money go towards making this country a safer place to live?

by **Sir Loin** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:36 am

send in the closer.

by **jimmy_keenan** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:30 am

Originally posted by JimmyTango
Salt Lake City, which is run under Mormon beliefs, recently sentenced a man to something like 30+ years for having pot.

That same court room, on the same day with the same judge, sentenced a man for a bloody murder to 15 years.

What the hell is up with that?

Who would you rather have on the streets sooner? The guy getting high or the guy that beat an old woman to death?

You don't know shit man. Don't make it sound like Mormons did that shit......every state has to follow the Constitution of the U.S. Also, every state has some kind of wack laws on the books.

Utah has one the smallest crime rates of ANY state, BTW. (Thanks Mormons!)

by **SavageParrot** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:49 am

Originally posted by SGT DEVILDOG
What about the people that get robbed or killed so that someone can get drug money. I would call that affecting other people.

Yeah but if that person could buy his drugs in a pharmacy at a fraction of the cost the problem would be significantly reduced. Far more people die as a result of the criminals who run the drug trade because it is illegal than from the actual drugs themselves. Legalise it, tax it heavily and use the tax money to educate about the effects of drug abuse and to help people who want to clean themselves break free of the drugs.

that's just imo though :blow:

by **SGT DEVILDOG** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:02 am

I really have no problem with Mary. I have a ton of friends who do it; I just don’t choose to. I have a problem with the other hard drugs. They are a 1-way trip to nowhere. If you want to argue that; I would love to see the arguments? I am not here to defend or attack anyone’s decision to do drugs or not. I was making the point that all drugs including alcohol effect other people besides the one who has made the choice to use. So please don’t use the argument that “ If a person uses it only effects them”.

by **CodeRed68** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:59 am

As with any rules of society, people have to live together without harming one another. That is basic law.
The argument is that sure, we will still punish those who affect other people's lives. Under controlled regulations (just like alchohol) people can still use drugs (if they choose, as thier human right) but once they start affecting someone else's life, they they have to pay the price.
If I drink and drive and hurt or kill someone. Then I have to pay the price according to the laws in place.
If I buy a baseball bat and go beating people up with it, then the same sort of laws hold true.
So the same would apply to marijuana, or other recreational drugs. I need to be 21 (or whatever age they make it), cannot drive a vehicle, need to purchase it at an authorized place of business, etc. It would be taxed and the money going towards government or local gov't programs, etc. The criminals and dealers and gangs would be put out of business (exaggerating here) as they would not have the huge drug money or reason to kill each other over it.
Drugs would be cheaper, no longer being a black market item, hence less reason to have to steal money to afford them.
Therefore, making drugs legal, would make less innocent people's lives affected so long as everyone abides by laws of society that are in place.

And PLEASE do not use the term "gateway drug" about marijuana again. That is such a load of media, government hype bullsh*t. Do not be a drone and believe that stuff.
Sure, some people who have tried marji have gone on to use other, more dangerous drugs. But that is more a case of the individual being the kind of person who would try such things. It is not the marjiuana'a fault. Look to the individual who has made thier own decision to take that course in life. I know plenty of people, myself included, who choose to just try/use marjiuanana and stopped there. Why? Because we are of sound mind and have been raised to make the right decisions and choices. If marji is the gateway drug, then how come everyone is not using cocaine, heroin, meth., etc?

by **JimmyTango** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:17 am

Originally posted by jimmy_keenan
You don't know shit man. Don't make it sound like Mormons did that shit......every state has to follow the Constitution of the U.S. Also, every state has some kind of wack laws on the books.

Utah has one the smallest crime rates of ANY state, BTW. (Thanks Mormons!)

I take it you do not know the history of Salt Lake City nor understand the Constitution, but claim I do not know 'shit.'

:roll:

by **Tommy Boy** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:51 pm

well to get back on topic, it is a real shame that these 4 young Mounties were killed in the line of duty. You can question whether that line was "justified" or not according to your own beliefs, but the bottom line is that they were enforcing the LAW and were killed when doing so.

They were too young to die in such a vicious way. My thoughts and prayers go out to their families and to the people of the community who will forever be scarred by this. I am thankful for all of our service men and women, including fire, police, EMS, military and coast guard. They selflessly do what many of us would be afraid to do, and for very negligible remuneration.

It is indeed a tragic day in Canadian history.

by **Savant** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:59 pm

Here Here Tommy...

by **Spirit of Me** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:02 pm

Originally posted by Tommy Boy
well to get back on topic, it is a real shame that these 4 young Mounties were killed in the line of duty. You can question whether that line was "justified" or not according to your own beliefs, but the bottom line is that they were enforcing the LAW and were killed when doing so.

They were too young to die in such a vicious way. My thoughts and prayers go out to their families and to the people of the community who will forever be scarred by this. I am thankful for all of our service men and women, including fire, police, EMS, military and coast guard. They selflessly do what many of us would be afraid to do, and for very negligible remuneration.

It is indeed a tragic day in Canadian history.

Well said my friend.

by **MeatHead_NJ** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:08 pm

The Suspects got the drop on em cause the heard the Mounties riding up on their Horsies.

by **EZC** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:09 pm

Originally posted by SGT DEVILDOG
I really have no problem with Mary. I have a ton of friends who do it; I just don’t choose to. I have a problem with the other hard drugs. They are a 1-way trip to nowhere. If you want to argue that; I would love to see the arguments? I am not here to defend or attack anyone’s decision to do drugs or not. I was making the point that all drugs including alcohol affect other people besides the one who has made the choice to use. So please don’t use the argument that “ If a person uses it only effects them”.

use to do mary but she gave me the hershey squirts.

by **Tommy Boy** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:41 pm

Originally posted by MeatHead_NJ
The Suspects got the drop on em cause the heard the Mounties riding up on their Horsies.

smacker:tard:

by **Siren** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:41 am

Its astonishing..... what the hell were those people thinking that shot them?!

Very sad.... being involved in the Canadian law enforcement community, I hate hearing stuff like this.

Four Canadian Mounties die in shootout

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