EU/US Rift

[[WEF]Herr Renz]

the US/EU rift is because europe wants peace and america wants war...

(that is the simple way to say it... so you guys don't have to read too much after bloodbubba's post/book

and also... why does the UN excists? i thought to bring peace to the world... but once they don't agree with America they just drop the UN... nice attitude... more prove that america only wants war...

don't you guys ever dare to tell me that most people here are against it so i maybe wrong, cause America and England are the only ones that want to war here and they still go...

[[RD]{gen}Beast]

no no renz the polish also are helping

[Doug the Unforgiven]

Originally posted by [RD]{gen}Beast
no no renz the polish also are helping

Most, if not all, of EASTERN Europe is supportive of this action, since they have fairly recent experience living under tyranny.

[[WEF]Herr Renz]

sorry Beats but i don't like it to do sarcastic about this... i wonna discuss the prob here, but i don't wonna laugh at others there opinion... (what a lot of others like Bukkake and Cid are doing here...)

[[WEF]Herr Renz]

and Doug, Turkey wanted to help becuase they would get A LOT of economical help... but now they don't wonna help and they get nothing... nice attitude of america... just buy them for your war...

[Doug the Unforgiven]

Originally posted by [WEF]Herr Renz
and Doug, Turkey wanted to help becuase they would get A LOT of economical help... but now they don't wonna help and they get nothing... nice attitude of america... just buy them for your war...

Only a socialist/communist would expect something for nothing.

I'm sure Turkey is still getting something. America is kind of a wussy in that way.

[[WEF]Herr Renz]

America is misusing his power... and that is what makes everyone hate usa...

and you make your sentence wrong... a good person expects nothing for something... and he would get something anyway... (at least a little thx) but he will not care if he doesn't get something... if America would think that way EVERYONE would still love America like they loved it in the 50's before AAmerica ruined it with Vietnam... (misusing of power)

And what Turkey is getting is an angry telephone call of Bush saying thay are wrong not to support the war

[Xenius]

Originally posted by [WEF]Herr Renz
America is misusing his power...

Aren't most countries when talked about in this way referred to as she? America is always referred to as a she, not a he.

Our lady liberty.

Yes, this is irrelevant.

Edit: For spelling because I spell as well as I swim through rock.

[[WEF]Herr Renz]

i don't care ...

[Xenius]

Originally posted by [WEF]Herr Renz
i don't care ...

Neither do I.

Ignorance is bliss.

[{CN}Doomfarer]

You know I keep reading about the black eye America got from Vietnam (rightfully so IMO) but anyone recall how we got involved in the first place? They are off SCOTT FREE, little to no mention of them in the same paragraph as Vietnam... Notice what their position is now? Just thought I would bring this up, since it is an interesting link to modern events

[Kristov Profile ICQ]

Herr Renz..again you show your total ignorance of world affairs.

There are currently 10 countries awaiting EU membership, whom all support the action in Iraq, which would drastically alter the current balance of those for/against in the EU. So much for the majority of the EU being against it.

As for the 'America abusing it's power'...well..right, whatever kid.

And El Cid, the US doesn't need the EU, far from it. We're the only nation on the planet that could actually stand on our own, no imports/exports/support from other nations. Name a single EU country that could do that? Hell, the EU as a group couldn't do that. No, we don't need them nor their support, and they know it and it pisses them right the fuck off. Europe was once the home of the global powers, now it's the home of the global beggars.

[[RD]{gen}Beast]

america is misusing power (yes here comes beast again:P)
like in the cold war they did the stuff and russia was another powerful country like USA but then they lost and USA stayd so now USA thinks they can do all if they wanna

[Kristov Profile ICQ]

America doesn't 'think' we can do whatever we want, we know it. And our failure to do just that should be obvious enough. Iraq is a case where action was required, the UN sanctions and it's own laws required this action years ago, but the UN showed, yet again, that it has no will to enforce it's own mandates.

As for the Cold War...maybe you should go ask the goverments of the nations in Europe just how much America did..and how much more they demanded the Americans do. I think you'll be quite surprised at what you find out, most Europeans are....

[Iron Pyrite]

Originally posted by Kristov
America doesn't 'think' we can do whatever we want, we know it. And our failure to do just that should be obvious enough. Iraq is a case where action was required, the UN sanctions and it's own laws required this action years ago, but the UN showed, yet again, that it has no will to enforce it's own mandates.

As for the Cold War...maybe you should go ask the goverments of the nations in Europe just how much America did..and how much more they demanded the Americans do. I think you'll be quite surprised at what you find out, most Europeans are....

Just to add to your already very well written post; I wish to emphasize what Kristov said. THe US CAN do whatever it wants. No power on Earth could stop us. So what does? Why do we not own the entire globe? Could it be that the US actually does try to do what is right?

Naw, probably something to do with Egyptian pyramids and spaceships.