Now this is just stupid...

by **shockwave203** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:14 am

so his reasoning is that it's safer for him to hold his one month old son a meter away from a crocodile than to drive with his son in a car, because he is in control. He's not in any more control of that croc than he would be of another driver. he could react, but the situation could still easily be fatal. you see a car careening towards you, you react and slam on the brakes. you see a crocodile lunge at you, you react and move away. His kid wasn't any safer with him by the croc than he would be in a car; instead the kid was probably in more danger. Wild animals are DANGEROUS. captive bears attack their owners, elephants in circus' attack people, tigers bite their instructors, blah blah blah. if it's dangerous to drive a car, like he said, why do something ELSE dangerous, especially for millions of people to see and react to?

by **Bagginses** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:37 am

I dunno, if my father told me today that he was holding me while he was feeding a crocodile, I would find it kind of cool. but then, I'm also kind of twisted

. . .

-Bagginses

by **Mugzy** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:01 am

Originally posted by Chacal
Yes, but he would have been even safer in his crib or in his mother's arms.

Hehe, I doubt that.. She would have done the same thing. Atually, she handed him to Steve

Originally posted by Chacal
People put their babies in airplanes because they don't have a choice.

I would be willing to bet that 90% of people with kids on planes could have driven or just stayed at home.

Why do we not get upset when someone crosses a busy street with a child in their arms? When you do that, you are dealing with many drivers you have never even met.

People were saying that Bob could have gotten hurt if Steve fell. There is a very good chance a child could get hurt if his mom fell while crossing a street. People are getting so upset because crocs are seen as monsters and people don't know anything about them except the big teeth.

by **Kurith** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 6:51 am

Holding him I suppose wasn't that bad but did you see on the news clip when he was making his son "walk" infront of it?

by **{GAG}Night** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:56 am

Originally posted by Mugzy

People are getting so upset because crocs are seen as monsters and people don't know anything about them except the big teeth.

cant say it better:beer: .

by **-HaVoC-** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:44 am

Originally posted by {GAG}Night
Dont get mad at me because I am a weirdo but I think the guy should do what ever the hell he wants with his kid. Its like letting your kid play with your dog, you can tell when the dog is going to bite, and thats just what he did.

Do you have children?

by **Murgatroyd** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:59 am

Originally posted by -HaVoC-
Do you have children?

I think that's the fundamental question here. I do. There is one underlying issue here, regardless of semantics, parallel situations, hypothetical analogies, ANYTHING, and that is:

You do not intentionally put children in danger. Under any circumstances. Period.

by **-HaVoC-** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:07 am

True, and you simply cannot have an opinion on this unless you have children. I'm not saying that in a negative way towards those that don't. My point is that you just simply cannot understand how important thier safety is until you hold one of your own.

The man has a right to do what he wants with his children (In America I bet child services would have something to say about that). But I can honestly say he was placing that child in a very dangerous situation and thier was no need nor explanation for it.

by **Mugzy** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:41 am

Originally posted by Kurith
Holding him I suppose wasn't that bad but did you see on the news clip when he was making his son "walk" infront of it?

His son was even safer at that point. The croc was 30-40 feet away in a clear body of water.

by **Mugzy** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:46 am

Originally posted by -HaVoC-
True, and you simply cannot have an opinion on this unless you have children. I'm not saying that in a negative way towards those that don't. My point is that you just simply cannot understand how important thier safety is until you hold one of your own.

The man has a right to do what he wants with his children (In America I bet child services would have something to say about that). But I can honestly say he was placing that child in a very dangerous situation and thier was no need nor explanation for it.

Like I have said before, you place your child in just as dangerous of a situation(if not more) every time you put them in a car. People say "oh, but we HAVE to put them in a car." Wrong, get a baby sitter, nanny etc and just let your kid stay at home 24x7 so they will be safe.

Growing up, we had to learn to look both ways crossing the street. Steve's kids don't have to worry so much about cars, they have to learn about crocs.

And I have a daughter.

by **residue** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:41 am

for those of you that feel nothing wrong was done - how do you feel about mj dangling his kid over a balcony?

by **Murgatroyd** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:16 am

Originally posted by Mugzy
Like I have said before, you place your child in just as dangerous of a situation(if not more) every time you put them in a car. People say "oh, but we HAVE to put them in a car." Wrong, get a baby sitter, nanny etc and just let your kid stay at home 24x7 so they will be safe.

There is some degree of danger inherent in any activity. To make a similie with The Croc Hunter's actions and every-day situations is obstinate. A crocodile is equivical to a bear trap with a brain, a very small brain at that. In fact, one of the most primitive forms of brain in existance. It's akin to a machine, slightly more intelligent than an insect. With that said, and since we're on the subject of analogies, should a gun-expert sharp-shooter expose his small child to firearms? Should an explosives expert, captain of the bomb squad take his child to watch him diffuse explosives? Of course not. These things are dangerous, as are crocodiles. You can go on about how children are statistically more likely to die in an automobile accident, but does that make them impervious to a crocodiles teeth and the ridiculous pounds per square inch of pressure applied by its jaws? No, and neither would the fact that they're being held by an expert. Just as the presence of an expert won't shield them from stray bullets, an explosion, anything.

by **hightimber** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:05 pm

[quote]Originally posted by Mugzy
I would be willing to bet that 90% of people with kids on planes could have driven or just stayed at home./QUOTE]Statistically, you're safer in the plane. Statistically, the most dangerous part of an airplane trip is getting to and from the airport (driving).

by **{GAG}Night** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:38 pm

Originally posted by -HaVoC-
Do you have children?

I had 2 but I drop them in a crocodile pool by mistake:( ... j/k I am too young to be a father but i know how its like. I guess I have no say in this so I will shut my hole;) .

by **Jeffro** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 4:01 pm

Sheesh...people arguing more in this than my damn religion thread...

I think it should be closed :roll:

Now this is just stupid...

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