Weed Yes/no
- RCinator
Originally posted by [A.S.H.]Nightcrawler
yikes so much of you say no , well id rather stick to weed than beer , cause the effects when you wake up the next morning are... NONE
Dead wrong.
http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/0038.html
"Marijuana smoking is particularly harmful to the lungs, more so than tobacco cigarettes. Joints are most always smoked unfiltered and down to the smallest butt possible and, to get the "best high", one must inhale deeply and hold the smoke longer in their lungs than tobacco smoke. Marijuana smoke contains not only delta-9-THC, but also numerous chemicals similar to tobacco tars, and about 50% more cancer-causing hydrocarbons than a tobacco cigarette.
Marijuana use has been shown to affect male and female reproductive systems, and to affect fetuses during pregnancy. The reproductive cells absorb and hold more THC than do most other body cells. Marijuana somewhat reduces production of testosterone (the hormone that causes development of facial hair, muscle tissue, and the male reproductive system). This might cause a problem in men who are marginally fertile. Some studies indicate that testosterone levels return to normal shortly after a person quits smoking. "
http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofax/marijuana.html
"The short-term effects of marijuana use can include problems with memory and learning; distorted perception; difficulty in thinking and problem solving; loss of coordination; and increased heart rate. Research findings for long-term marijuana use indicate some changes in the brain similar to those seen after long-term use of other major drugs of abuse. For example, cannabinoid (THC or synthetic forms of THC) withdrawal in chronically exposed animals leads to an increase in the activation of the stress-response system(6) and changes in the activity of nerve cells containing dopamine(7). Dopamine neurons are involved in the regulation of motivation and reward, and are directly or indirectly affected by all drugs of abuse.
Effects on the Heart
One study has indicated that a user’s risk of heart attack more than quadruples in the first hour after smoking marijuana(8). The researchers suggest that such an effect might occur from marijuana’s effects on blood pressure and heart rate and reduced oxygen-carrying capacity of blood.
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- RCinator
Originally posted by [A.S.H.]Nightcrawler
by the way , that hearth attack shit !! no way man i have never heard of that in my life , jezus man and even if that was the cause he had to smoke like 20 sigarettes after eachother or something...![]()
It was in my other post as well, but just to emphasize the point . . .
http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofax/marijuana.html
"Effects on the Heart
One study has indicated that a user’s risk of heart attack more than quadruples in the first hour after smoking marijuana(8). The researchers suggest that such an effect might occur from marijuana’s effects on blood pressure and heart rate and reduced oxygen-carrying capacity of blood."
- RCinator
Originally posted by Dragon Fart
So let me get this strait,
your saying that a guy never exercised
never rode a bike
never played any sports
couldn't drink more then 2 cups of coffee
and in the rare instance
some type of heart condition
that he heart couldn't handle 140 bpm
and HE NEVER KNEW ABOUT.
and non of his doctors ever detected
during just a routine visits
and in the rarer still
takes a hit of just weed and dies ?
I'm an avid workout-aholic, and did not find out until I was 24 years old that I had a heart defect. I have been extremely physical my entire life and never knew about the heart condition. How frequently have you had a full set of heart tests done? It's not something you get done at a common physical. Any do you know what a heart defect feels like? Didn't think so. I though mine was indigestion at first. 72 hours and a bottle of Tums later, I was in the hospital being shocked with the paddles.
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not everybody that voted yes hasn't seen it hitpoint i voted yes and i have seen it and have expierienced the effects of it
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- {CN}Doomfarer
A: Not all those who have said yes are NOT educated about the drug and it's side effects, short or long term. If you can allow the use of the phrase "responsible drug use", then that is where I stand on this topic.
B: Full battery of heart tests have I been through, yes. I realize that is uncommon, but hey so am I.
B: Full battery of heart tests have I been through, yes. I realize that is uncommon, but hey so am I.
- UPT-THC
I haven't died yet.
Well i wanted to let everyone know that well in the last 48 Hours i have smoked approximately a pack of J's. And well due to me being able to make this post i wanted to make everyone aware that i haven't died yet even though i have a heart murmur. My doctor told me however that Marijuana use slows down the body temperature as well as decrease your pulse rate which actually aids to my heart being utilized less which leads to a longer period of life. Alright well i sense differing views on this topic but as is stated below it is safer. Just break the bong out of the closet and you will be on your way. The article below might clarify some issues on lung issues as well.
CLAIM #4:
MARIJUANA CAUSES LUNG DISEASE
It is frequently claimed that marijuana smoke contains such high concentrations of irritants that marijuana users' risk of developing lung disease is equal to or greater than that of tobacco users.
THE FACTS
Except for their psychoactive ingredients, marijuana and tobacco smoke are nearly identical. 21 Because most marijuana smokers inhale more deeply and hold the smoke in their lungs, more dangerous material may be consumed per cigarette. However, it is the total volume of irritant inhalation - not the amount in each cigarette - that matters.
Most tobacco smokers consume more than 10 cigarettes per day and some consume 40 or more. Regular marijuana smokers seldom consume more than three to five cigarettes per day and most consume far fewer. Thus, the amount of irritant material inhaled almost never approaches that of tobacco users.
Frequent marijuana smokers experience adverse respiratory symptoms from smoking, including chronic cough, chronic phlegm, and wheezing. However, the only prospective clinical study shows no increased risk of crippling pulmonary disease (chronic bronchitis and emphysema).
Since 1982, UCLA researchers have evaluated pulmonary function and bronchial cell characteristics in marijuana-only smokers, tobacco-only smokers, smokers of both, and non-smokers. Although they have found changes in marijuana-only smokers, the changes are much less pronounced than those found in tobacco smokers.
The nature of the marijuana-induced changes were also different, occurring primarily in the lung's large airways - not the small peripheral airways affected by tobacco smoke. Since it is small-airway inflammation that causes chronic bronchitis and emphysema, marijuana smokers may not develop these diseases. 22
In an epidemiological survey, approximately 1200 subjects gave information on smoking and pulmonary function at two-year intervals. A large percentage of the subjects underwent pulmonary function testing. Although a small group who reported previous marijuana smoking had significant pulmonary abnormalities, current marijuana smokers had no significant reduction in any pulmonary functions. 23
There are no epidemiological or aggregate clinical data suggesting that marijuana-only smokers develop lung cancer. However, since some bronchial cell changes appear to be pre-cancerous, an increased risk of cancer among frequent marijuana smokers is possible. 24
Since the pulmonary risks associated with marijuana are related to smoking, the danger is eliminated with other routes of administration. For committed smokers, pulmonary risk might be reduced with higher-potency products, which produce desired psychoactive effects with less inhalation of irritants. Smokers could also be encouraged to abandon deep inhalation and breath-holding, which increase drug delivery only slightly. Finally, pulmonary risk might be reduced if marijuana were smoked in water pipes rather than cigarettes.
THC
CLAIM #4:
MARIJUANA CAUSES LUNG DISEASE
It is frequently claimed that marijuana smoke contains such high concentrations of irritants that marijuana users' risk of developing lung disease is equal to or greater than that of tobacco users.
THE FACTS
Except for their psychoactive ingredients, marijuana and tobacco smoke are nearly identical. 21 Because most marijuana smokers inhale more deeply and hold the smoke in their lungs, more dangerous material may be consumed per cigarette. However, it is the total volume of irritant inhalation - not the amount in each cigarette - that matters.
Most tobacco smokers consume more than 10 cigarettes per day and some consume 40 or more. Regular marijuana smokers seldom consume more than three to five cigarettes per day and most consume far fewer. Thus, the amount of irritant material inhaled almost never approaches that of tobacco users.
Frequent marijuana smokers experience adverse respiratory symptoms from smoking, including chronic cough, chronic phlegm, and wheezing. However, the only prospective clinical study shows no increased risk of crippling pulmonary disease (chronic bronchitis and emphysema).
Since 1982, UCLA researchers have evaluated pulmonary function and bronchial cell characteristics in marijuana-only smokers, tobacco-only smokers, smokers of both, and non-smokers. Although they have found changes in marijuana-only smokers, the changes are much less pronounced than those found in tobacco smokers.
The nature of the marijuana-induced changes were also different, occurring primarily in the lung's large airways - not the small peripheral airways affected by tobacco smoke. Since it is small-airway inflammation that causes chronic bronchitis and emphysema, marijuana smokers may not develop these diseases. 22
In an epidemiological survey, approximately 1200 subjects gave information on smoking and pulmonary function at two-year intervals. A large percentage of the subjects underwent pulmonary function testing. Although a small group who reported previous marijuana smoking had significant pulmonary abnormalities, current marijuana smokers had no significant reduction in any pulmonary functions. 23
There are no epidemiological or aggregate clinical data suggesting that marijuana-only smokers develop lung cancer. However, since some bronchial cell changes appear to be pre-cancerous, an increased risk of cancer among frequent marijuana smokers is possible. 24
Since the pulmonary risks associated with marijuana are related to smoking, the danger is eliminated with other routes of administration. For committed smokers, pulmonary risk might be reduced with higher-potency products, which produce desired psychoactive effects with less inhalation of irritants. Smokers could also be encouraged to abandon deep inhalation and breath-holding, which increase drug delivery only slightly. Finally, pulmonary risk might be reduced if marijuana were smoked in water pipes rather than cigarettes.

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