Well, they killed him...

by **cavalierlwt** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:36 pm

If we can find a way to reduce our oil dependency to about 50% of what it is today, we can leave the Middle East entirely. Whatever we are paying at the pump, you have to factor in all the money we spending fighting in the ME, giving money to ME countries to try and maintain some status quo. We could make this problem go away if we could just focus on it, it all starts with an announcement by president. So, let the next President of the USA stand up at his inauguration and say "America will reduce it's oil usage by 50% over the next 8 years". That's pretty much how we got off our ass in the space race.

by **Agent-Commando** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:40 pm

I say send in everything America's got, do a clean sweep of that region, arrest everyone and sort it out later. They'll run, and run but they know they got nowhere to hide! I think it is time for some public executions of these Islamic bastards (the ones America already have in prisons) because I am f*cking sick of this sh*t.

This guy had a family, he had a wife, he had children, that makes it a lot worst because he was a man that many loved. No one deserves this, I sincerely hope Bush gives the worst of what's to come of these sick f*ckers.

Darwin's theory of survivalist would come into play here, these barbaric mofos will die to make way for the civilized.

by **S.S. N** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:05 pm

Originally posted by ||ASS||Mortimer
Maybe it's the fact that he stood next to "Hanoi Jane" in protest of the Vietnam war??

do you mean in general? or this bit of nonsense? funny stuff. if it meant i got to sit next to barbarella id go to some hippy shit too.

by **Bagginses** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:06 pm

Originally posted by cavalierlwt
If we can find a way to reduce our oil dependency to about 50% of what it is today, we can leave the Middle East entirely. Whatever we are paying at the pump, you have to factor in all the money we spending fighting in the ME, giving money to ME countries to try and maintain some status quo. We could make this problem go away if we could just focus on it, it all starts with an announcement by president. So, let the next President of the USA stand up at his inauguration and say "America will reduce it's oil usage by 50% over the next 8 years". That's pretty much how we got off our ass in the space race.

I was watching CNN today and I noticed the definition of irony. They did a story on gas prices and why they were so high, then they cut to commercial break and the first ad was for a Hummer. I don't think Americans could live without their SUVs to get down to a 50% oil usage. I'm just hoping someone discovers cold fusion soon...

-Bagginses

by **LordShard** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:24 pm

Originally posted by Bagginses
I was watching CNN today and I noticed the definition of irony. They did a story on gas prices and why they were so high, then they cut to commercial break and the first ad was for a Hummer. I don't think Americans could live without their SUVs to get down to a 50% oil usage. I'm just hoping someone discovers cold fusion soon...

-Bagginses

That's what I say!

by **JimmyTango** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:27 pm

Originally posted by Jeffro
Agreed.

Clinton led us into this mess, and Bush was left with the daunting task of digging us out.

Clinton did? The same president that whiel leaving office told the new admistration coming in to watch Osama, that he is the biggest threat, only to basically get rolling eyes in return?

Only one that led us into this mess is the man in office now. His decision to not take him seriously, his decision to go into Iraq with false information(not to mention ILLEAGALLY use money from the war in Afganistan to fund the inital plans to go into Iraq) which has helped fuel more anger in the middle east towards us.

How you could blame it on Clinton is beyond me.

by **JimmyTango** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:29 pm

Originally posted by Casus
Exactly 100%, but it DFM - he's gonna get blamed for it, his ratings keep dropping and dropping, after all, gotta blame someone....not saying it is the right thing to do.

I see no one blaming Bush for not giving into their demands. It is basic policy not to give into their demands for a reason, and this goes for every administration, and every country without their heads up their asses. Bush should be applauded for having the common sense not to cave in.

by **JimmyTango** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:31 pm

Originally posted by Pierce
I def. agree that I'd rather have Bush in the White House than Kerry to set these people straight. There's just somethin' about Kerry that makes me think he wouldn't be the man for the job. I can't really say if I support the war or not, but now that were in I just hope we kill all of those filthy scumbag terrorists, b/c I know they wouldn't hesistate in the least bit to kill us.

So a man decorated in war is not good enough, but a man who hid in the national guard to stay out of war is? :confused:

by **JimmyTango** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:34 pm

Originally posted by ||ASS||Mortimer
Maybe it's the fact that he stood next to "Hanoi Jane" in protest of the Vietnam war??

Though I beleive that particular picture was faked, he does have the right to do that. And for or against the Vietnam war, I sure thnk a man who experienced what he did over there should never be questioned whether he supported the war or was against the war after he was lucky enough to make it home.

by **Jim0322** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:37 pm

Originally posted by JimmyTango
I see no one blaming Bush for not giving into their demands. It is basic policy not to give into their demands for a reason, and this goes for every administration, and every country without their heads up their asses. Bush should be applauded for having the common sense not to cave in.

I was not up to Bush. This occurred in Saudi Arabia to a U.S. citizen. It was up to the Saudi's, being a sovereign nation, to make the decision. Obviously they might be influenced by Bush, but lets not forget they are in charge of their own country.

Jim

by **JimmyTango** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:41 pm

Originally posted by cavalierlwt
If we can find a way to reduce our oil dependency to about 50% of what it is today, we can leave the Middle East entirely. Whatever we are paying at the pump, you have to factor in all the money we spending fighting in the ME, giving money to ME countries to try and maintain some status quo. We could make this problem go away if we could just focus on it, it all starts with an announcement by president. So, let the next President of the USA stand up at his inauguration and say "America will reduce it's oil usage by 50% over the next 8 years". That's pretty much how we got off our ass in the space race.

The problem is our past two leader REFUSE to open up the reserves. There is plenty of oil, the oil csars in the middle east produce low amounts on purpose to jack up prices.

Clinton, and now Bush, both need(ed) to tell them to fuck off, we are using our oil reserves and drilling the shit out of Alaska so we do not need to depend on them.

They'd drop the prices quickly.

by **JimmyTango** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:43 pm

Originally posted by Jim0322
I was not up to Bush. This occurred in Saudi Arabia to a U.S. citizen. It was up to the Saudi's, being a sovereign nation, to make the decision. Obviously they might be influenced by Bush, but lets not forget they are in charge of their own country.

Jim

Wasn't their demand releasing their people held by the US?

If not, I know it was for the first one that was what, a month ago already?

by **Jim0322** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:48 pm

Originally posted by JimmyTango
Wasn't their demand releasing their people held by the US?

The must have known from the moment they made the demands there was no possibility they would be met.

From CNN.com -
Abdel Aziz Al-Muqrin, the self-proclaimed military leader of al Qaeda in Saudi Arabia, had threatened Tuesday to kill Johnson in 72 hours unless the Saudi government released al Qaeda prisoners and Westerners left the Arabian Peninsula.

by **||ASS||Mortimer** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:52 pm

Well, atleast they killed the bastards that killed him.

Al Qaeda militants beheaded American hostage Paul Johnson on Friday, posting images of his body on an Islamist Web site. Later, the al Qaeda leader in Saudi Arabia believed responsible for Johnson's abduction was killed, Saudi security sources told CNN. Al-Arabiyah reported he was killed while disposing of Johnson's body.

by **Bagginses** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 5:32 pm

Originally posted by ||ASS||Mortimer
Well, atleast they killed the bastards that killed him.

Al Qaeda militants beheaded American hostage Paul Johnson on Friday, posting images of his body on an Islamist Web site. Later, the al Qaeda leader in Saudi Arabia believed responsible for Johnson's abduction was killed, Saudi security sources told CNN. Al-Arabiyah reported he was killed while disposing of Johnson's body.

How convenient... :freak:

-Bagginses

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