Singer Bashes Bush gets booted

Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:03 pm

Liberal Falsehood #4213: Freedom of Speech
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This Liberal Falsehood covers the 1st Amendment, Freedom of Speech. Research shows that 9.5 of every 10 Liberals believe that Freedom of Speech also means Freedom from Backlash of Pissed Off People. That rule has yet to make it into the US Constitution, but they are lobbying strongly.

However, under the current Constitution, you have the right to say anything you want, but you must suffer the consequences of your Big Mouth. If you are a celebrity, for instance, the same right you have to sound off like a far-left wingnut also gives the offended the same right to boo, hiss, boycott, and call you mean names. Please refer to page 13,945 of "Why Liberals Are Wrong" for further insight.

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Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:15 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3902833.stm

Elton John attacks censorship in US

Elton John has said stars are scared to speak out against war in Iraq because of "bullying tactics" used by the US government to hinder free speech.

He's got a point. Bands like the Dixie chicks are booed off stage and it's said they are 'unamerican' yet bands like toby keith who voiced their support for Bush get cheers and applause

Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:27 pm

Elton John has said stars are scared to speak out against war in Iraq because of "bullying tactics" used by the US government to hinder free speech.

He's got a point. Bands like the Dixie chicks are booed off stage and it's said they are 'unamerican' yet bands like toby keith who voiced their support for Bush get cheers and applause

Exactly where does the government involvement come in when it is the individual citizen expressing their displeasure with the artists political rhetoric.

Nice try on the ole' conspiracy theory there dude but you missed.

Evidently you have a problem with the "average" American deciding what is American. We as a people actually enjoy it.

Now go and watch your Al Jazeera.

Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:32 pm

Originally posted by shockwave203
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3902833.stm

Elton John attacks censorship in US

He's got a point. Bands like the Dixie chicks are booed off stage and it's said they are 'unamerican' yet bands like toby keith who voiced their support for Bush get cheers and applause

So what's the point? Canada is the cradle of political correctness and censorship of news, political and religious speech by it's government, which is what censorship really is.

I missed the part where George Bush sent in the Gestapo, where was it?

Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:41 pm

Originally posted by RCglider
So what's the point? Canada is the cradle of political correctness and censorship of news, political and religious speech by it's government, which is what censorship really is.

I missed the part where George Bush sent in the Gestapo, where was it?

Interestingly, it's Elton John's home country - the UK - not the US that has an official censorship board. Canada has one too, IIRC, as do Germany and France.

Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:46 pm

in this case, censorship has nothing to do with the way people voice their opinions. Celebrities aren't being censored, rather the anti bush supporters are being booed off stage even though there are huge numbers of people against the war.

Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:46 pm

Originally posted by Colonel Ingus
Now go and watch your Al Jazeera.

Once I can, I will. Should prove rather interesting.

Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:02 pm

Originally posted by Folic_Acid
Interestingly, it's Elton John's home country - the UK - not the US that has an official censorship board. Canada has one too, IIRC, as do Germany and France.

We have one too, but we don't call it that.

Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:03 pm

rather the anti bush supporters are being booed off stage even though there are huge numbers of people against the war.

Evidently not in their fan base. Which is a rather stupid business decision on their part now isn't it. They can keep quiet, vote their conscience just like their audience, and all is well now isn't it.

But you still appear to be arguing that it is ok for them to express their anti-bush sympathies but there should be no response by people from opposing views.

It seems from these responses there is a huge number of people for the war now doesn't it. Or are they not allowed to heard. I know they aren't in Canada but this is America and they can. Amazing thing that 1st Ammendment.

Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:46 pm

Originally posted by Colonel Ingus

But you still appear to be arguing that it is ok for them to express their anti-bush sympathies but there should be no response by people from opposing views.
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that's not what I've been saying. I said it's odd that Bush supporters are cheered while Bush opposers are booed. Bands that don't support Bush have their songs ripped off radio stations, meanwhile pro bush bands voicing their opinion don't suffer any backlash.

It's called an observation, Ingus.

Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:02 pm

Duly noted.

Evidently it would seem if there is this much spontaneous support for the Bush maybe his support is more popular than you have been lead to believe. Maybe many Americans do think he is doing right.

Of course, this too, is an observation.

Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:06 pm

ofcourse it is. one could also say that bush supporters make more of a fuss because they feel they are being insulted personally.

Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:13 pm

http://www.softcom.net/webnews/wed/ds/Uus-jadakiss.RQWo_ElD.html

NEW YORK, July 13 (UPI) -- New York rapper Jadakiss' new song "Why?", with an anti-Bush sentiment, is gaining popularity despite MTV and some radio stations censoring the tune.

The song, which asks questions ranging from Kobe Bryant to the new $20 bill, asks "Why did Bush knock down the towers?", a line that has been removed for airplay by some broadcasters, the New York Daily News reported Tuesday.....

Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:14 pm

Originally posted by Colonel Ingus
Duly noted.

Evidently it would seem if there is this much spontaneous support for the Bush maybe his support is more popular than you have been lead to believe. Maybe many Americans do think he is doing right.

Of course, this too, is an observation.

The liberal media doesn't show Bush supportors on TV and in the news. Only anti-Bush and anti-American news make it to the airwaves.

Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:32 pm

Originally posted by Colonel Ingus
Evidently it would seem if there is this much spontaneous support for the Bush maybe his support is more popular than you have been lead to believe. Maybe many Americans do think he is doing right.

Of course, this too, is an observation.

Maybe many of Bush's supporters are more intolerant of listening to opposing views. For example, my brother's father-in-law, a very conservative minister, told me once he only likes funny movies like "Ernest" because he really didn't like any movies with a moral message because his mind was made up and he didn't appreciate viewpoints that differed from his own.

I really dislike intolerance, whether it comes from liberal or conservative perspectives. I think conservatives as a group are more intolerant than liberals because for many of them their views are founded in religion.

Jim