Who finds christmas depressing?

by **=ender=** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:58 pm

There are a lot more pagan/ancient symbology used in Christianity than just for the holidays. Same can be said about Judaism, but interestingly enough, many Judaic traditions are reflected in modern Christian practices as well.

by **Evan** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:04 pm

See, I'm Roman Catholic. Yeah, Christmas is based on a religious event, but I honestly can't say I've ever celebrated Christmas because of the religious aspect. Like Havoc said, I LOVE Christmas because it's all about the family, the friends, the snow, the lights, decorating the house and trees..

I find the most joy in getting something special for someone special (to me, those are my closest friends) and looking into their eyes the moment they open it and you know right then in there that was the best "gift" for Christmas you could ever ask for.

by **PraiseA||ah** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:13 pm

Originally posted by =ender=
There are a lot more pagan/ancient symbology used in Christianity than just for the holidays. Same can be said about Judaism, but interestingly enough, many Judaic traditions are reflected in modern Christian practices as well.

Yes. Agreed. It's all very interesting. Many religions are in fact related. Judaism, Christianity and Muslims are closely related, in fact. We share many of the same things. The differences between them are mostly in interpretation and emphasis rather than outright differences.
PBS is running a story of early Christianity right now. I forget which one it is but they've played it a few times in the past week. It's very interesting. It talks about how Christians were Jews who had no influence in Judaism then had a lot of influence, then lost it and were rejected by the other Jews once they accepted Gentiles into the fold.
At any rate, I think Catholicism is a prime example of a sect of Christianity where one can find many pagen influences. Many of the preceding Roman religions/gods (before Christanity became accepted by Rome) can be found under different guises in Roman Catholicism.
Judaism has clear influences from Egyption religion.
Islam has Jewish and Christian influences.

by **CodeRed68** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:17 pm

It's no secret that the early Christians kidnapped the winter time celebrations by the Pagan Romans and made it thier own. Pagans were using this time of year for celebrations and the Christians wanted to celebrate too. So they celebrated Christ's birth at the same time of year.

by **shockwave203** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:46 pm

Originally posted by SavageParrot
It's not the season of increased suicides over myspace for nothing...

fixt

by **Alofwar** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:26 pm

Hold on guys, this is become a bit too much of a religious thread, when we were talking about politcal correctness that was ok, but i dont wanna get this thread deleted.

Carolers, they can be as bad as johova witnesses, so heres my guide on how to deal with them this year.

1) Have a very big water gun behind and drench themafter u say " Let me go get a suprise for you" because it's so cold hopefully their get hyperthermia, MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Water bombs are also useful, you can fill them with water, flour, or my personal favourite throw some with something sticky like treacle on then throw some with something like feathers or those hundred and thousands things at them. Or one with honey then a box of bee's at them.

2) Humourous signs are a good deturent, like "Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again" or "Beware of my wife" that second sign can have in brackets (she's on her period) or a picture of a dog.

3) There is also the freaky kid one, you answer the door in a lab coat, or any long coat and then have one of your kids come round the corner looking really creepy and have him say "Shall i lock them up in the basement with the others master?" If your a kid then you be creepy and come round the corner when your parents answer the door.

4) This ones simple, answer in a hockey mask with a chainsaw and start yelling random jibberish and reving the chainsaw. A gun would also be nice.

5) Or you could take the offencive, you could set up a giant sling shot or catapult on your roof a launch stuff like rotten eggs, Fish, foul mixture, use your imagination and rain chaos
apon the unsuspecting fools below.

6) Another offencive approach is to simply walk the streets with a water gun and ballons.

These tactics are untried because i live out of the way and dont get random people knocking on my door that often, but im sure there pure genius, they can be used at christmas against carolers, at halloween against trick or treaters, salesmen and the ultimate pest Johova's witnesses.

Or if you want to be really cruel to Johova's witness's, INVITE THEM IN, (they will be absolutely shcoked) Then once they are done talking, just say you were never that interested.

by **Alofwar** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:36 pm

However if the Mods don't think this is too religious a threadthen carry on, as several have joined in on it.

by **[ecgn] btt** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:05 pm

Originally posted by =ender=
all seem to get the picture! This is just the kind of cheer that needs to be spread around this time of year.

Merry Christmas, everyone!

Meh, One month of helping others and feeling good about the world to make up for elevn months of f-u world. This is why I don't like the holiday season. Everyday you wake up should be a holiday. People should treat each other with love and respect every day. If people feel they need to treat others well because "it's the holidays" seems to inply they give something less the rest of the year.

As for what stores are doing. I was raised Roman Cathlic on Long Island, NY. I am an Atheist now. There is any religon you can name on Long Island. Now I live in western North Carolina. Seven years and I haven't met a Jew or and other person that wasen't a Southern Baptist. Now in New York all the stores say Happy Holidays. In North Caroilina they all say Merry Christmas. So when I go into the stores around here. I say Happy Chanukah. Last year I said that to a young girl that was greeting people. As I passed, I heard her friend say "see I told you, you should say Happy Holidays. I guess it should be left up to the store. If you don't like how they greet you then leave.

This is America, and you will be offended here. In some way shape or form. Unfortunetly the line between offended and assualted is becoming blurred.

by **Rand0m** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:07 pm

Originally posted by BulletTooth-TPF
Meh, One month of helping others and feeling good about the world to make up for elevn months of f-u world. This is why I don't like the holiday season. Everyday you wake up should be a holiday. People should treat each other with love and respect every day. If people feel they need to treat others well because "it's the holidays" seems to inply they give something less the rest of the year.

Great point! same goes with things like 9-11 I feel. Everyone is patriotic as fuck afterwards and everyone is all about America, even that has already died down.

by **cavalierlwt** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:05 pm

I don't feel the Christmas spirit at all lately (last few years). But I'm not bitter or anti-Xmas or anything. I guess as you get older, you have to just remember the times when you were younger and Xmas was still pretty magical. That is probably the thing that is closest to feeling that Xmas spirit, for me anyway.
Let's kick this thread up a notch: What was your favorite Christmas moment? Was it the gifts you got, the time with the family, etc?

by **Alofwar** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:08 pm

Post ways to annoy carolers, like i did. Im just evil. HO HO HO.

by **cavalierlwt** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:11 pm

You're not evil, you're just British! Why do think we always have British people portray the Nazis in movies? Just kidding! :lol:

by **[ecgn] btt** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:27 pm

Originally posted by cavalierlwt
Let's kick this thread up a notch: What was your favorite Christmas moment? Was it the gifts you got, the time with the family, etc?

For me it would be recently. Yes I said above I am an Atheist. But my parents are Roman Cahtlic. And a few years back, When I was 23 or 4, I was up in NY spending Christmas with the folks. The last one in the house I grew up in. (they are damn yankees like me now) the 30th or so Christmas. Just me and the folks (both brothers couldn't make it)and one set of grandparents. Anywho I digress. It was Christmas eve. I had come home late after a good time on the town with some Buddys. I went into the finished basement where I was sleeping. The tree is down there near a wood burning fireplace. (been there for 30 years) Now some background. Every Christmas eve when we were kids. My dad would sweep out some ashes from the fireplace onto the harth. Christmas day we would run down an he would point out the mess Santa made comming down the chimmny. Now back to when I came home at 24. I looked at the tree, looked at the fireplace. Said somethings missing. Sweept out some ashes, Ate half a cookie, and drank half a glass of milk. (we left milk and cookies for Santa as kids.) I get up the next morning. And my Mother gave me a big huge. My Father said, " you know you made your mother cry this morning. tears of joy that it." It was a great moment and I was just messing around when I did it. I am glad my mother got so much out of it.

by **Alofwar** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:35 pm

IM GONNA TEAR OFF YOUR SKIN LIKE WRAPPING PAPER, THEN DECK HALLS WITH YOUR GUTS!!!!!!! There some festive evilness for you MUHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO.

It probably because we make fun of Nazis alot then we often get portayed as nazis in films. Like in Fawlty towers when tey had some German guests, Basil kept saying don't mention the war to his wife accidently dropping it iinto converstions. After saying something and upsetting one of them he said
"Lets do the silly walk" and starts doing and exsagerated goose step.

German man: Now look you've upset my wife

Basil Fawlty: Well you started it

German man: No we didn't

Basil Fawlty: Yes you did, You invaded Poland

by **Alofwar** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:40 pm

Heres a picture, aperrently a group of England football fans are goignto wear shits that say "Don't mention the war" in Germanwith picture like this to the 2006 world cup in Germany.

Back to the christmas topic now.

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