Off topic, but don't go too far overboard - after all, we are watching...heh.
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Re: The Sopranos Finale...

Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:18 pm

remember, those boyscouts were the same ones in the train store, those 2 black guys were the same as the ones who tried to kill tony earlier in another season, and that guy who walked in the bathroom was listed as phils cousin in the credits (i think, i didnt confirm that last one) in any case, the way it was filmed was very similar to a bronx tale and godfather, which lead me to believe it to be a bomb...but i can def see it as not a bomb too

Re: The Sopranos Finale...

Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:52 am

It was a spaceship filled with midget martian ninjas despatched by the church of the great spaghetti monster to exact retribution for tony's rampant cheating in the first interplanetary happy families snap championship. Legend has it Tony had 4 Mr Smith the milkman cards up his sleeve and used to them to cheat the chief pirate accolyte of the most high Pastafar out of his diamond encrusted eyepatch and his finest pair of pantaloons...

Re: The Sopranos Finale...

Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:24 am

The more I watch it and think about it, the more I think Tony's dead.

Like Bobby said to him, "You never see it coming. Everything just goes black."

The show is in Tony's perspective. We see him playing with the jukebox, eating onion rings, waiting for his family to arrive one by one as people filter in then suddenly...

...black.

He got popped by someone. Chase spared us the details, but gave us the build up to the inevitable.

Re: The Sopranos Finale...

Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:29 pm

Lord ZOG wrote:The more I watch it and think about it, the more I think Tony's dead.

Like Bobby said to him, "You never see it coming. Everything just goes black."

The show is in Tony's perspective. We see him playing with the jukebox, eating onion rings, waiting for his family to arrive one by one as people filter in then suddenly...

...black.

He got popped by someone. Chase spared us the details, but gave us the build up to the inevitable.


thats exactly the conclusion i came to, but he left the ending "open" for us to choose how it happened

Re: The Sopranos Finale...

Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:36 pm

NEWARK, N.J. —
"Sopranos" fans who thought the series' open-ended conclusion was a setup for a movie may be in for disappointment: series creator David Chase says it isn't so.

Chase went to France before the airing of the much-debated finale because he wanted to avoid what he called "all the Monday morning quarterbacking." But like a true New Jersey loyalist, he granted one interview to The Star-Ledger of Newark, which posted his comment early Tuesday on its Web site.

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"I don't think about (a movie) much," he told the paper. "I never say never. An idea could pop into my head where I would go, 'Wow, that would make a great movie,' but I doubt it.

"I'm not being coy," he added. "If something appeared that really made a good 'Sopranos' movie and you could invest in it and everybody else wanted to do it, I would do it. But I think we've kind of said it and done it."

Chase said he would leave it to fans to interpret the show's last scene for themselves. It featured the members of the Soprano family arriving for dinner as Journey's "Don't Stop Believin"' plays. Others in the restaurant include a man in a Member's Only jacket who goes to the bathroom, which some fans have interpreted as a nod to the scene in "The Godfather" in which Michael Corleone retrieves a gun from the bathroom before a shooting.

As the music and tension build, the screen suddenly goes silent and dark.

"I have no interest in explaining, defending, reinterpreting, or adding to what is there," said Chase, 61, who grew up in North Caldwell.

"People get the impression that you're trying to (mess) with them, and it's not true. You're trying to entertain them," he said. "Anybody who wants to watch it, it's all there."

Another problem with a movie is that so many characters died in the last season. Chase said he has considered "going back to a day in 2006 that you didn't see, but then (Tony's children) would be older than they were then and you would know that Tony doesn't get killed. It's got problems."

Chase also elaborated on how he decided to make the Journey classic the last music played on the series.

"It didn't take much time at all to pick it, but there was a lot of conversation after the fact. I did something I'd never done before: In the location van, with the crew, I was saying, 'What do you think?' When I said, 'Don't Stop Believin',' people went, 'What? Oh my God!'

"I said, 'I know, I know, just give a listen,' and little by little, people started coming around."


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,280974,00.html

Re: The Sopranos Finale...

Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:54 pm

Even though I believe Tony got popped (and possibly his entire family), my question is; "Who told the killers where Tony would be?"

As far as I know, the ONLY person who heard where they were headed was A.J.'s girlfriend, and I can't see her involved in any way.

Ideas?

Re: The Sopranos Finale...

Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:54 pm

ahh you know how this show goes, you can always be found right?

Could that fbi guy's chest be any hairier btw...

Re: The Sopranos Finale...

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:44 am

Watched it again tonight. I don't think he is dead. Nothing to indicate, the threat was gone (from Phil) not that there couldn't have been someone else. I guess I am going to have to watch the whole last season again and see if I pick anything else up.

Re: The Sopranos Finale...

Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:39 am

I thought the way they ended it was great, nothing was ever certain about Tony's or the rest of the Soprano's lives. The abrupt ending serves as a stark bookend to a show filled with uncertainty and questions about the future.

If you want a happy ending, go to a rub and tug or watch a re-run of the Friends finale. This is exactly how they should have ended the show.

Additionally, i love the way Phil ate it in the end... killed right in front of his old lady which was supremely hardcore. And in her frantic screaming she managed to leave the car in drive and run over his head. Very brutal but a fitting way to kill off a guy everyone grew to hate.

I hadn't seen it until last night, a few buddies of mine had always gotten together a few days after a new show aired so we could all maintain obligations that we had on Sunday evenings. It was extremely difficult to not read any posts or articles regarding the finale. The cast of Baseball Tonight screwed me over as i was flipping through the channels on Monday and all i heard was "Phil got whacked" I was irate but it is the most successful cable show in history, so what are ya gonna do about it?

Re: The Sopranos Finale...

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:11 pm

King wrote: The cast of Baseball Tonight screwed me over as i was flipping through the channels on Monday and all i heard was "Phil got whacked"


even Lebron talked about it at his press conference.. it was everywhere

Re: The Sopranos Finale...

Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:14 pm

john stuart even put somethin in his show about it, so funny

Re: The Sopranos Finale...

Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:20 pm

It's still being talked about on the radio, and Journey "Don't Stop Believin" has been resurrected from the ashes yet again. I swear that song is going to rise up every couple of years for the next hundred years or so!

Re: The Sopranos Finale...

Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:46 pm

Unfortunately, most of the "press" comes from the mouths of the blathering idiot party, bent on ridiculing a great series because it either didn't satisfy their video-game mentality slant on life, or because they're too dumb or un-appreciative to recognize a truly great ending to a great series.

Re: The Sopranos Finale...

Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:34 pm

I liked Kevin Smith's (the guy who made 'Clerks') thoughts on the Sopranos finale:

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Still, I have always, and will always, love that show. And I’m not bitching about the ending (though, if I had any hardcore complaint it was that there was no shout-out to the ducks that kicked off this nearly decade-long love affair) because they provided one really beautiful moment that I feel summed up the entire series quite nicely: Tony visiting Uncle Junior.
“You and my Dad,” Tony said. “You two ran North Jersey.”
“We did?”
“Yeah.”
“Hm.” Beat. “That’s nice.”
I thought that brief exchange really captured the futility of not just This Thing of Ours, but ambition and accomplishment in general: you struggle and toil and put shit together from scratch, and it all seems so epic and important in the moment, and you make sacrifices, and there are casualties along the way… and ultimately, if you’re lucky, you wind up in a wheelchair, unable to remember most of what you’ve done.>>

Re: The Sopranos Finale...

Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:59 pm

I like his thought process. Just like real life.

There are no guarantees.
There are no Christmas bows and tidy endings.
People who piss you off, will ALWAYS piss you off.
People sometimes NEVER get it.
Things that you don't understand, or can't figure out will ALWAYS be that way.

And when all is said and done, what the fuck does it matter? Deal with it.
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