A Canadian "Saving Private Ryan" ???

by **Colonel Ingus** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:40 am

Sigh... So quick to jump to the liberal defense there Jimmy.

Did anyone say Moore is always wrong and Rush Limbaugh is always right? I don't recall reading any information on this thread from Rush Limbaugh exposing the lies and fraud that is Michael Moore. Oh wait, no one mentioned him 'til you did. Way to take a typical liberal tact and point the finger somewhere else and go "But they're worse than us!"

You would probably find many of us bashing Limbaugh and his "strategery" as much if not more than Moore (I know I would) but since you are polarized as a liberal that thought never occurred to you.

I will say this for Rush though. Although full of shit and wrong a lot he doesn't go in for the big lies like Moore does. Rush may be an idiot, have his facts wrong, and be a drug addict but he doesn't lie and manipulate on the scale that Moore does.

And even though I say Rush Limbaugh is a successful graduate of the Josef Goebbels school of broadcasting at least he doesn't charge you any money to put up with his bullshit.

by **SavageParrot** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:46 am

Ha we might have offered tea if you were lucky, but there was no way in hell any damn colonials were getting crumpets as well

by **JimmyTango** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:24 pm

Colonel Ingus,

You might want to go back and re-read my post. Afterward...SETTLE DOWN.

Originally posted by Colonel Ingus

Did anyone say Moore is always wrong and Rush Limbaugh is always right? I don't recall reading any information on this thread from Rush Limbaugh exposing the lies and fraud that is Michael Moore.

This once had nothing to do with Moore, yet was introduced by someone who will take a simple post that does nto rip on anyone and claim they are trying to make super secret hidden messages that only he can decipher. Moore is being attacked for X Y and Z reasons, and all I am doing is pointing out the opposite side of the political spectrum.

Originally posted by Colonel Ingus

Way to take a typical liberal tact and point the finger somewhere else and go "But they're worse than us!"

All I said was he is the Dem's version of Limbaugh. That is it. Where you got the rest of it is beyond me, unless you have been studying RC's 'super secret hidden messages' theories.

Originally posted by Colonel Ingus

You would probably find many of us bashing Limbaugh and his "strategery" as much if not more than Moore (I know I would) but since you are polarized as a liberal that thought never occurred to you.

The post I made is saying that Moore is very liberal, yet there are X, Y, and Z good traits, like I found Bowling's theories on we American's trigger happiness to be interesting, and that for his TV shows for every liberal piece there was a nonbiased piece. I would comment on his books, but I have not read them nor care to.

Now I made a simple, non-attacking post. This was in reply to RC's very aggressive posts. What I get in reply from you is a reply to something I never even posted. I am not blinded by 'liberalism,' especially since I am not even a liberal!

by **King** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:42 pm

funny how this went from a thread about movies the examplified the canadian and british invovlements in war to a a public opinion poll about whoever and whatever in american politics.

Getting back to the task at hand. WWII was won for many reasons other than the U.S. involvment. If you need examples go watch the history channel.

I also concur that the "Hollywood" doesn't cater to foriegn markets when making U.S. war movies. The purpose? They want to simplify things to allow viewers to follow the storyline w/ few tanglements. Facts and important data is often sacraficed for time, artistic liscense and for the ability for any american to walk out of a movie say "The Patriot" and say AMERICANS ROCK!

Ever since i can remember its been engraved in me that we are a patriotic people. July Fourth, Flag Day, Memorial Day... the list goes on about who and what kind of people we are. Self-righteous i know but i can be honest with everyone and say i wouldn't want to live anywhere else. As im sure it goes for anyone else no matter what country you are from.

I think it actually would be better for other countries to create blockbuster war films. To get other impressions on the Wars and such. Besides if Hollywood is going to keep coming out w/ movies such as Windtalkers then there is no need to actually watch them. Cuz that movie sucked ass.

by **Colonel Ingus** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:43 pm

Ha we might have offered tea if you were lucky, but there was no way in hell any damn colonials were getting crumpets as well

HA! You know what we did with your tea!:D

by **Bullhead** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:00 pm

Originally posted by JimmyTango
Now I made a simple, non-attacking post. This was in reply to RC's very aggressive posts. What I get in reply from you is a reply to something I never even posted. I am not blinded by 'liberalism,' especially since I am not even a liberal!

OMG. Armageddon must be coming. I agree with you 100% Jimmy (not such much in your views, but the above statement).

Colonel, I really didn't see his post as what you saw, as a matter of fact it seemd to be one of the calmest JT posts of all time

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by **Chacal** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:13 pm

Originally posted by Colonel Ingus
HA! You know what we did with your tea!:D

by **Colonel Ingus** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:15 pm

Jimmy allow me to quote myself here:

Did anyone say Moore is always wrong and Rush Limbaugh is always right? I don't recall reading any information on this thread from Rush Limbaugh exposing the lies and fraud that is Michael Moore. Oh wait, no one mentioned him 'til you did. Way to take a typical liberal tact and point the finger somewhere else and go "But they're worse than us!"

Lets both go back and re-read posts shall we?

And as far as the liberal comment? That was based on the body of work you have posted before. Kind of like how we are bashing Moore. His body of work speaks for itself. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck, its probably a duck.

And believe it or not this isn't any type of personal attack on you. There are no good traits in Michael Moore, just as there are no good traits in Rush Limbaugh.

Are you trigger happy? a lot of your family members trigger happy? You own guns or are a member of the NRA? The answer to all those for me is no and if it is the same for you then how can you buy into Moore's "trigger happy" philosophy as interesting?

You always seem pretty quick to take umbrage at generalizations. Why do you find it acceptable in this case?

by **cavalierlwt** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:19 pm

Exactly my point in the beginning. Only a British film company is truly able to tell the story of the Battle of Britain. They have the history at their fingertips and the motivation to be faithful with that history. There's plenty of talent left in Canada to tell their story too, they didn't all go to Hollywood. These are stories that deserve the big screen treatment!
Bridge over the River Kwai may have been Hollywood (I don't really know) but it was pretty much a film about the British culture vs Japanese culture...it was a great movie. True, it did have a Canadian and an American in it, but that movie was from a British viewpoint. There are great stories out there. Maybe wishing for them to be made is unrealistic, but I can always dream can't I?

Originally posted by Kingofbeers

I think it actually would be better for other countries to create blockbuster war films. To get other impressions on the Wars and such. Besides if Hollywood is going to keep coming out w/ movies such as Windtalkers then there is no need to actually watch them. Cuz that movie sucked ass.

by **JimmyTango** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:38 pm

Colonel Ingus,

I know I am the oen that first mentioned Limbaugh. My point was that this thread had nothing to do with this topic until Moore was brought up. He is the 'media king' of his beleives, where Limbaugh is the 'media king' of his sides beleif. Do I really have to draw a picture for you to see how Limbaugh can be brought up as the opposite of Moore, yet the same in only showing points that support their views? Come on, you are not dumb so stop acting like this is some far fetched idea and that he can not be brought up since no one else brought him up.

So if I am not trigger happy, nor anyone in my family, i can not find Moore's theory interesting? WHAT? Just because my family isn't shooting everything in site doesn't mean a good chunk of American's aren't misusing firearms. Pick up any statistic comparing the US to the other countries, and there is a HUGE difference in crimes and murder commited with a gun.

Heck, for years and years the pro gun community has said guns are not the problem, people are. Moore, a liberal, agrees with this idea of gun supporters(typically republicans)and tries to see what is wrong with these people. Now you are shooting down that people are the problem? Then what is to blame? The guns?

by **SavageParrot** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:43 pm

Yknow the czechs made a rather good Battle of Britain film called 'Deep Blue' or something like that. It was quite recently, and it was very good.

by **Colonel Ingus** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:40 pm

I was saying you seem to readily buy into a generalization when normally you seem to abhor generalizations. You have in the past railed against generalizations (like for instance the potrayal of Moore in this thread) yet this one seems easily believable to you.

Do you see gun violence daily? you and your family and friends practice it? It a common occurence where you live? It's not where I am.

Pick up any statistic comparing the US to the other countries, and there is a HUGE difference in crimes and murder commited with a gun.

You are probably right there Jimmy. Let's look at other countries. Israel/Palestine? Iraq? Chechnya? Haiti? Jamaica? Many African and Central/South American countries. Pretty much anyplace that ends in 'Stan.

Oh thats right right. When they use guns there and kill people its called "politics" or "religion" or even "cultural strain" I guess if you go by a strict definition of wether or not that country calls it crime we are the worst statistically.

Gee what does that say about us as a people?

by **Colonel Ingus** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:52 pm

BAH! enough drivel.

Back on topic.

Where can I find any info on that "Deep Blue" Savageparrot? It sounds like it might be worth seeing.

The British should do a movie about the Battle of Britain. Look at what they did with the CGI in LOTR and (ugh) Pearl Harbor.

I wonder though with the EU and regional politics being what they are if this is the reason British movie makers don't make movies about WWII. It may not be politically popular to make movies potraying the Germans as nasty when they are one of the big 3 in the EU. Maybe your movie producers don't want to start those kind of feelings with someone you are tied so closely to? Just an idea.

by **Major SONAR** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:04 pm

I think a good movie might come from the Japanese viewpoint prior to and leading up to the attack at Pearl Harbor. Why exactly did the Japanese attack America? After reading a few articles, it kinda makes sense.

I'll bet few Americans know why Japan attacked us (USA).

by **lil_Tigga** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:34 pm

Originally posted by JimmyTango
Colonel Ingus,
All I said was he is the Dem's version of Limbaugh. That is it. Where you got the rest of it is beyond me, unless you have been studying RC's 'super secret hidden messages' theories.

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