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Postby hightimber » Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:08 am

Originally posted by SandStorm
Your not alone hightimber.

I live 5 minutes from the Johnson Space Center and our community and the city of Houston takes great pride in NASA. One of the astronauts killed in the Columbia tragedy, who's family we are good friends with, lived a few houses down from me and to hear a statment as such angers me immensely.

Lordshard, I know (I hope) your not trying to piss anyone off but why so much negativity towards NASA? Because one satellite was lost during re-entry?
Sandstorm, as I've said, a lot of people are only willing to recognize failures in the face of many hundreds of successes.

LS, NASA was not developed as a for-profit organization. They are a scientific community. If NASA was privatized we could probably bid farewell to all missions which have no direct potential for profit. Hubble, Galileo, Mars Rovers, Cassini, etc. - all purely scientific missions which a private company would have no reason to partake in. That would be tragic.

Sandstorm, I'm sorry for the loss of your friend. When we lose people like that, it also breaks the hearts of those who did not have the privilege of knowing them personally. I take some comfort in knowing that at least they got to fulfill their mission before the accident.
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Postby LordShard » Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:37 am

Originally posted by hightimber
Sandstorm, as I've said, a lot of people are only willing to recognize failures in the face of many hundreds of successes.

LS, NASA was not developed as a for-profit organization. They are a scientific community. If NASA was privatized we could probably bid farewell to all missions which have no direct potential for profit. Hubble, Galileo, Mars Rovers, Cassini, etc. - all purely scientific missions which a private company would have no reason to partake in. That would be tragic.

Sandstorm, I'm sorry for the loss of your friend. When we lose people like that, it also breaks the hearts of those who did not have the privilege of knowing them personally. I take some comfort in knowing that at least they got to fulfill their mission before the accident.
I know NASA isn't for profit. But when they make such idiotic mistakes you should see heads rolling. Not to mention, Think of how many more tiny little balls of metal they could have put up if they had made money to supliment their gov income.

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Postby ralphwiggum » Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:30 am

First off, I work for NASA, with these "idiots". So shut up, and go back to work at Sonic, because you have no idea as to what you are talking about.

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Postby LordShard » Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:39 am

Originally posted by ralphwiggum
First off, I work for NASA, with these "idiots". So shut up, and go back to work at Sonic, because you have no idea as to what you are talking about.
So it's your fault they built it wrong. ;)

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Postby hightimber » Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:12 am

Originally posted by ralphwiggum
First off, I work for NASA, with these "idiots". So shut up, and go back to work at Sonic, because you have no idea as to what you are talking about.
Ralph, please know that NASA does have a lot of supporters and we stick with you guys through thick and thin. If what you guys did was easy, everyone would be doing it.

:beer: NASA.
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Postby LordShard » Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:58 am

Originally posted by hightimber
Ralph, please know that NASA does have a lot of supporters and we stick with you guys through thick and thin. If what you guys did was easy, everyone would be doing it.

:beer: NASA.
Or, they could go work for BB&T and charge me a freaking $32 overdraft fee for a $5 check!

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Postby BladeRunner » Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:25 pm

Originally posted by hightimber
Ralph, please know that NASA does have a lot of supporters and we stick with you guys through thick and thin. If what you guys did was easy, everyone would be doing it.

:beer: NASA.

Roger that, Ralph keep up the good work.
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Postby hightimber » Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:10 pm

Originally posted by BladeRunner
(i'm still thinking about what life would be like without
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I'm trying to think what life would be like without bars..... :eek:
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Postby Chacal » Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:15 pm

On a more cheerful note, the Mars rovers "Spirit" and "Opportunity" are still going strong, months after the end of their primary missions. They just sent back more proof of the past existence of liquid water on Mars.
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/mer-121304b.html
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Postby cavalierlwt » Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:20 pm

I'll won't fully happy with NASA till they get wise and build a serious, permanent moon base. I know it sounds like goofy SCI-FI, but big time moon base would make future exploration ten thousands times easier and cheaper. We could bring modular components for Mars missions to the moon base, do final assembly there, and then launch for Mars from the moon base, pretty much without size/weight limitations. It beat the sh*t out of that cobbled together space station.
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Postby jnkcrp » Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:29 pm

BACK OFF. I already have a secret moon base.! Its mine.....so ....stay away!
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Postby cavalierlwt » Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:38 pm

Sorry man, some times my outer-space manners are atrocious!
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Postby LordShard » Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:19 pm

Originally posted by cavalierlwt
I'll won't fully happy with NASA till they get wise and build a serious, permanent moon base. I know it sounds like goofy SCI-FI, but big time moon base would make future exploration ten thousands times easier and cheaper. We could bring modular components for Mars missions to the moon base, do final assembly there, and then launch for Mars from the moon base, pretty much without size/weight limitations. It beat the sh*t out of that cobbled together space station.
I wasn't bring that up because I figured someone would call me a cook and say it's impossible. :\

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Postby hightimber » Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:27 pm

Originally posted by cavalierlwt
I'll won't fully happy with NASA till they get wise and build a serious, permanent moon base. I know it sounds like goofy SCI-FI, but big time moon base would make future exploration ten thousands times easier and cheaper. We could bring modular components for Mars missions to the moon base, do final assembly there, and then launch for Mars from the moon base, pretty much without size/weight limitations. It beat the sh*t out of that cobbled together space station.
1) moon base = cool
2) in theory, missions would be cheaper because you wouldn't need such powerful rockets to escape earth's gravity

But lest ye not forget that the costs of maintaining a moon base would undoubtedly be astro-nomical. One thing might balance the other.

Cobbled-together space station?? That was Mir.

Comparatively speaking, the ISS is palatial.
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Postby LordShard » Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:37 pm

Originally posted by hightimber
1) moon base = cool
2) in theory, missions would be cheaper because you wouldn't need such powerful rockets to escape earth's gravity

But lest ye not forget that the costs of maintaining a moon base would undoubtedly be astro-nomical. One thing might balance the other.

Cobbled-together space station?? That was Mir.

Comparatively speaking, the ISS is palatial.
Mir was a ruski thing, built in an age with extremely high priced electronics which were many times faulty, built by a country which had it's own problems, not the least of which was production QUALITY. The line managers were more worried about meeting quotas.

Here, we at least have the manufacturing base for it, the computers in palm pilots are what? 10,000 times the processing power of what we used to goto the moon?! American made goods are some of the highest quality (IMHO) in the world, even if not the cheapest.

Hell, ever think that the costs of a moon base maybe could be offset by mining it? Or perhaps other things, such as nuclear waste storage (if you want to take the risk of loading tonnes of crap that would be spewn across the globe if a defective rocket exploded)

Shoot, construction for new rockets could be done in space, with better ability to offload nearly everything to robotics for the ultimate in high quality craftsmenship in a rocket?

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