Off topic, but don't go too far overboard - after all, we are watching...heh.
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Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:08 pm

if I have to believe runn4r, the indians allready called themselved 'natives americans' even before there was an America.
Just for your information: it were the Americans who gave them that name. Therefor they are not Americans before the Europeans came. In fact, they still aren't (Europeans/Americans killed a big part of the 'indian-community'. Well, if the 'indians' really are 'native Americans', than it's a strange way to live with your 'fellow-countrymen').

Anyhow, I don't know where I am 'insulting' them, I was just joking. But if you think it was an insult, you are just sad.

Please go to a small corner in your room, cry, go in hibernation, and please come back when it's summer.

Did I really asked a lot? Only an apology would do the trick.

Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:09 pm

I don't believe "Runn4r" is real. Nobody is that big a moron. More probably a reg pulling a practical joke.

Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:11 pm

Originally posted by Chacal
I don't believe "Runn4r" is real. Nobody is that big a moron. More probably a reg pulling a practical joke.

tell me where I'm wrong.

Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:14 pm

No no no, you're not wrong. Keep going :P

Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:48 pm

OK Harry was wearing a uniform. His blood line is German royalty, along with French, Spanish, Russian and every other royal family in Europe in the millennium. the swastica was a national symbol long before the 12 or so year rise to power of Hitler who tarnished it for the rest of the century. was it a poor choice? It was a costume party, do you support the league of Vampires if you dress like one at a party or does it just mean you want Buffy to know you have a sole and she can ride you? :)

Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:54 pm

Maybe its just me but its very insensitive to Jews, some of which are holocaust survivors or have relatives who perished there.

Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:35 am

He's an adolescent male. A normal one, meaning he lacks judgment and acted without thinking. Why should he be any different from the others? Because his grandmother holds an old-fashioned, meaningless title?

Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:15 am

Originally posted by Runn4r
but the truth is, America saved your country from being part of the greater German empire


Yes but only after Hitler declared war on you. How long were you gonna let us suffer and die in the name of profit?

Your not the only ones that fought tooth and nail against the nazis so frankly give it a rest, It's tired.

Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:39 am

Originally posted by SavageParrot
Yes but only after Hitler declared war on you. How long were you gonna let us suffer and die in the name of profit?

Your not the only ones that fought tooth and nail against the nazis so frankly give it a rest, It's tired.
Hitler was a dumbass. =O He declared war on us because he thought that if he did the Japanese would declare war on Russia. (Their pact was a defense pact not offensive so Japan said FUCK YOU BITCHES!)
At the start of World War Two out naval defense lines were about 15-20 miles off our coast. Then Roosevelt kept increasing it out until just before Hitler declared war it was all the way to greenland. =O That is a long ways, about 3/4 of the atlantic. He wanted to join the war but didn't have a reason considering after the first war we went back to isolationism and pretty much said that if it didn't directly effect us you can fuck yourself up the ass.

Also, studies agree that if Hitler had continued the battle of britain a few more weeks that the RAF would have been completely annihlated, even with their new fangled radars (Germans didn't know about themuntil later, and the collateral damage inflicted on the UK was such that the radars were being destroyed anyways.)
The RAF was taking losses of what was it, 3 to 1? maybe even as bad as 4 to 1? The luftwaffe had so many more planes, and at the time superior planes that if Hitler listened to his generals once in his life the UK would have been conquered and so would have spain (His head of inteligence sided with the allies and gave him bad info on railrode tracks not being compatible to save them). There would have been no invasion of Normandy, and Hitler could have focused everything on holding back the ruskies until the russian thaw in spring or summer or whenever. And well, Africa without any level of sophostication didn't really stand much of a chance on it's own.
Don't forget we the USA were arms dealers in it all, we sold the UK and CCCP thousands of armanents, tanks, ammunitions, and guns.
Remember, if it wasn't for the president, we woulnd't have joined the war. If we had someone else who didn't give a shit like everyone else in the USA (Roosevelt was friends with Chruchill) you'd be all saying Seig Heil Hitler Clones #75743

Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:41 am

http://www.ghastlycomic.com/d/20050109.html
You guys should look at that for info about your histories. >=)

Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:46 am

Originally posted by Runn4r
Maybe its just me but its very insensitive to Jews, some of which are holocaust survivors or have relatives who perished there.


Well, you are right about that.
But like I said in my first post: it has been 60 years ago, terrible...yes, but let it go.
Even on this day people still think the Jews are sad because of WW II (just think about the Israël-Palenstina conflict. If Palestina does something it is a 'terrorist-attack', but when a Jew kills 10 Palestinians it is 'justified'.

And you are just one of that groups that whine about everything when it comes down to the jews and WW II.
That doesn't mean I respect your opinion. If you still want to protect the jews from the holocaust, even if it's 2050, than it's your choice.

What I don't respect is that you called me a nazi lover.
If I would like to collect things from the war, and it has to be a nazi costume, does that make me a nazi lover?
If you collect guns and knifes, does that make you a serial killer?

In percentage, most jews died in Holland. About 90% or higher. Terrible indeed, but I can't go back to the past and prevent it. We have to go on and learn from it.
History is an infinite learning process.

Still waiting on atleast a normal apology.

Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:46 am

I didn't say we wold have wone witout you, the Russians would have but that's beside the point. What I said was how long were you gonna let us bleed and die before you deigned to do the right thing. We didn't have to be in that war either, we got a very generous surrender package offer, but we fought because it was the right thing to do while you sat back and raked in the cash from both sides.

Anyway you kicked ass in the end so it turned out all right :). I just wish you'd shut up about it, it was 60 years ago already...
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