Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:00 pm
The replys are getting real fast
Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:09 pm
^Bunch of slackers screwing off at work I bet 
(I know I am)
And shockwave is correct. Canadian troops did do work in Afghanistan although I personally am unaware wether or not they currently maintain a presence.
You don't see any Germans, French, or Russians supporting us in Iraq.
Of course that brings up a very important points in Canada's favor. Canada's stance actually seemed to be based on principle rather than cash/corruption.
I can respect Canada.
Although I do look just Nort of Da' Border and say "Dem crazy Canucks!":D Of course I live in Minnesota and a chunk of you Canucks are southerners to me.
(I know I am)
And shockwave is correct. Canadian troops did do work in Afghanistan although I personally am unaware wether or not they currently maintain a presence.
You don't see any Germans, French, or Russians supporting us in Iraq.
Of course that brings up a very important points in Canada's favor. Canada's stance actually seemed to be based on principle rather than cash/corruption.
I can respect Canada.
Although I do look just Nort of Da' Border and say "Dem crazy Canucks!":D Of course I live in Minnesota and a chunk of you Canucks are southerners to me.
Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:21 pm
Yes, but there have been reports of the Taliban in Iraq and after 9/11 there were signs all over America saying things like "We will hunt down who did this wherever they may be" and other similar phrases.
I think the war is for two issues being fought simultaneously. One is to hunt down terrorism and to free the Iraqi's. If the troops see a terrorist while in Irawq, they will handle it accordingly.
I think the war is for two issues being fought simultaneously. One is to hunt down terrorism and to free the Iraqi's. If the troops see a terrorist while in Irawq, they will handle it accordingly.
Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:26 pm
We still have around 2,300 soldiers in Afghanistan, which is basically nothing compared to how many soldiers the US has in Iraq, but for our military I guess it's a sizeable contribution.
I must admit that I find myself constantly flip-flopping on the issue of whether or not Canada should be in Iraq. There have been days when I said they should, most of the time I say they shouldn't.
Is it better to look at the greater good, or allow one nation to invade another based on inaccurate intelligence? I don't know.
Iraq, down the road, will be better off. But it's the way in which Bush drummed up support for the war which makes many people choose not to support it. I know the country will be better in a few years, but we have to look at how the war started. I don't know if I could support the way in which this war began if another nation 10 years from now does the same thing.
I must admit that I find myself constantly flip-flopping on the issue of whether or not Canada should be in Iraq. There have been days when I said they should, most of the time I say they shouldn't.
Is it better to look at the greater good, or allow one nation to invade another based on inaccurate intelligence? I don't know.
Iraq, down the road, will be better off. But it's the way in which Bush drummed up support for the war which makes many people choose not to support it. I know the country will be better in a few years, but we have to look at how the war started. I don't know if I could support the way in which this war began if another nation 10 years from now does the same thing.
Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:23 pm
to say that we should do what the US does is like saying that the US should do what Mexico does...policy based solely on geography makes no sense...we need more partnerships, but have to maintain our own soverignity as an independent nation.
This has been a good discussion to watch evolve...I waited to wade into it because there were some good points made, but the bottom line is that we are not obliged to do what the US wants because of geography alone...especially something as one-sided as media. Come on, can you really tell me that the American media (FOX in particular) is any less one-sided than any other media? I mean, I can only watch so many white Bronco chases while civil war wages on in other parts of the world...tell me what is news and what isn't...
This has been a good discussion to watch evolve...I waited to wade into it because there were some good points made, but the bottom line is that we are not obliged to do what the US wants because of geography alone...especially something as one-sided as media. Come on, can you really tell me that the American media (FOX in particular) is any less one-sided than any other media? I mean, I can only watch so many white Bronco chases while civil war wages on in other parts of the world...tell me what is news and what isn't...
Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:28 pm
If it's likely to cause fear in the population, it's news baby!
Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:05 pm
Originally posted by SavageParrot
If it's likely to cause fear in the population, it's news baby!
How is chasing a white Bronco, or recounting the latest car jacking, domestic disturbance, plague of locusts or other grabage news though?
Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:11 pm
Even better, how does one becomes a news baby?
Is one birthed from a newpaper?
Is one birthed from a newpaper?
Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:14 pm
I don't get it?
Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:17 pm
Originally posted by Tommy Boy
I don't get it?
He said "it's news baby"
I was pointing out the obvious and asking how does someone become a news baby -.-
Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:38 pm
This thread is getting off topic.
Canada beer PWNS 'n OWNS American beer.
Canada beer PWNS 'n OWNS American beer.
Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:38 pm
Originally posted by LordShard
:flame:
He said "it's news baby"
I was pointing out the obvious and asking how does someone become a news baby -.-
Please don't post again unless it has to do with the topic.
Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:20 pm
...especially something as one-sided as media.
Quick point of order if I may. Al Jazeera is one sided.
I'm not saying wether or not you guys should have FNC or not. Thats for you to decide. (Or rather your government censor)
You know what the difference in American media is? There is, what all the people who agree with the bias will call a "conspiracy" a mainstream liberal bias. Which does exist and has been stated by many in the Media Industry. This will be denied though and it will be claimed "objective" media. Funny whats the definition of objective? They sure seem to have an objective.
Then there's FNC and mostly talk radio There is an open admitted slant towards conservatism.
So one says its leans conservative and does, and the rest lean liberal and say they do not.
It does make some, maybe not all or even many, but some of your good southern neighbors pause and think when we hear that you will have Al Jazeera and not FNC. I could give a shit less about FNC I don't even know if Canada has a conservative network and all kidding aside I suspect it would be tame compared to what Fox would throw at you.
Like I said I don't care one way or the other its just the appearance there is odd to say the least. And this wasn't any kind of a personal attack at any of you guys. I know several of you wouldn't watch it wether you had it or not so no loss for you. Hell I don't watch it myself.
Two other quick points.
to say that we should do what the US does is like saying that the US should do what Mexico does...policy based solely on geography makes no sense...we need more partnerships, but have to maintain our own soverignity as an independent nation.
I couldn't agree more Tommy.
Wouldn't you say Canada has been in a fortunate position due to its location and the only other country that borders it. This is just a thought excersize and an observation. Doesn't mean Canada owes us a thing. One could definitly postulate a different, even radically different, history of Canada if you were stuck up against Europe or South America. Anywho just a thought. Australia is even more fortunate but they don't have any Powerful Arrogant neighbors to their south:D
And to Keek::P
Canadian pisswater! You drink some mass market crap like Bud or Miller and think thats a real American beer? Come on! If it was any good we wouldn't be letting it leave!
We have tons O'good beer's, we just keep them to ourselves:cool:
Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:20 pm
Originally posted by Keekanoo
This thread is getting off topic.
Canada beer PWNS 'n OWNS American beer.
I'll give you that.....I think we have 1% alcohol. I heard Canadians carry around our beer, just incase they get dehydrated and need some water:D
Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:10 am
It's no wonder so many of you American boys are huge.... you'd have to be to carry home the 2 2-4's for the evenings light social with a friend. Honestly...I've TRIED to get drunk on Amercian beer... after about 20 of them I end up with a slightly nauseated metallic reaction (drinking cans) and give up.
Granted, I've only sampled the typical American beers available at Joe' B er and Bo ze (real place I went to... half the letters were missing from the big sign over the converted aircraft-hanger he was using as a liquor store. If memory serves correct the 's of Joe's was actually hanging down on it's bottom nail--lmfao).
What kind of beers outside of the run-of-the-mill swill would you guys recomend?
If you can get your hands on a beer from Ontario called Cream-Ore Springs, grab as much as you can. Velvet smooth cream ale. Good punch at 5.2%
Granted, I've only sampled the typical American beers available at Joe' B er and Bo ze (real place I went to... half the letters were missing from the big sign over the converted aircraft-hanger he was using as a liquor store. If memory serves correct the 's of Joe's was actually hanging down on it's bottom nail--lmfao).
What kind of beers outside of the run-of-the-mill swill would you guys recomend?
If you can get your hands on a beer from Ontario called Cream-Ore Springs, grab as much as you can. Velvet smooth cream ale. Good punch at 5.2%