Another woman getting tasered video

by **Rand0m** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:46 am

I'd shoot her in the face with my taser gun and let er' rip!

by **SavageParrot** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:19 am

Originally posted by cavalierlwt
Good luck being a cop you guys. Women is drunk, bit her husband. So, you have to arrest her, no if and or buts about it. So, now you have to arrest her, which mean handcuffing her and putting her in the squad car. She's says 'no, don't touch me'. You grab her, she pulls away. Now what?
It's either wrestle her down to the ground, or taser her. Or, you can go back to station and tell your police captain, sorry, I couldn't bring her in, she said no. Yep, you'll be an effective cop that way. Gee sarge, I tried to stop the drunk driver, but he said no and don't touch me, so I went and ate some donuts.
The wrestling option is considered worse than tasering because of the lawsuits.
So, let's hear your ideas, how to arrest this woman, who won't let you lay a hand on her, won't let you cuff her? Don't say what you wouldn't do, let's hear what you would do.

You've only got his word that she bit him and he's drunk as well. No-one actually checked up on his story...

by **cavalierlwt** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:33 am

That's how it works. We have very strict Domestic Abuse laws, as soon as one person says the other assaulted them, it's instant arrest, no exceptions. That's why the cop is listening to the guy's story and just stops him right at the moment he says that she bit him, says 'alright' and walks over to the car to arrest the woman. This is like 90% of a cop's job, responding to Domestic Abuse calls, often wind up arresting both people because they will say they hit each other. It's almost a cliche these days, especially if you have the misfortune to watch an hour or two of those reality Cop shows, it's all they do. You can actually hear it in the cops voice when the guys say she bit him. It's like 'Here we go again'

by **CodeRed68** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:21 am

my two cents:
if any of you have friends who are cops or been on a "ride along" as i have, you would understand the cops position on this. They deal with unruly, low life, citizens all day long. People who cannot deal with life and just stir up trouble and dont better themselves. A cop does not choose to be in this situation, they want nothing better then to have nothing to do or not have to worry about society. But as soon as they let thier guard down, they can be in big trouble, hurt or killed.
You have to do what a police officer tells you to do, immediately. It is what they are trained to to from many years of experience built into thier trianing. Every action they take has a reason and you always have to expect the worse.

The cop warned her that she was going to be tazed if she did not comply. She resisted arrest and was being generally unruly and drunk. Shame on her. The cop does not have time to sit and argue with her and he shouldn't have to. The cops are there to enforce the law and bring normalcy to the situation as fast as possible.

Also, priaseallah, your name is very offensive and personally, i cannot believe you even defend using it. Every time i see it, i think about those terrorists chanting it as they crash the airliners on 9/11. I think you knew the implications and you have to take responsiblity of people's reactions to that name, here, post 9/11.

by **Rand0m** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:38 am

Stop making personal attacks just because he does not agree.

It's sad to think that some people are ignorant and feel all middle easter/ Muslims are terrorists because of 9/11.

by **SavageParrot** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:49 am

by **cavalierlwt** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:11 am

If this thread has to be locked because of personal attacks, then screw the lot of you. I'm not pointing a finger at anyone specifically, but if something as simple as a video of a woman getting arrested is going cause these kinds of hard feelings, then it's time for me to walk away from this board.

by **Rand0m** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:44 am

It's stupid that some of you resort to personal things that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Its a low blow and you all know that. That had nothing to do with this thread or discussion at hand. He has the right to disagree and express his personal opinions. Bringing in something that didnt have anything to do with this thread was uncalled for. He has over 200 posts under that name, and not once was anything said. And now you disagree with him so you resort to that. This is why politcal threads are bannished from here, because people cant argue civilized without making low blow comments.

by **Stl Lunatic** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:03 am

I think the officer had the right to taser her but I think a different force could of been used...maybe mace or all they had to do was just pull her out of the car...all that matters is that the police werent hurt or killed...like someone else said the officers go through training on how to handle these kind of situations...they were most likely told if they dont comply after so long then use it...and since they have used these weapons on themselves they will hopefully use them only when the situation occurs...

by **PraiseA||ah** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:10 am

I will make one last attempt to reason with you people and then, I guess I will also let this thread die because we are going around and around without arriving at any destination I agree with.
Watch that video again. Whenever one of you tries to give an accurate account of it, you fail to do so. You skip parts and you leave out the other side.
The man says she was drunk. Not a cop. There is a legal limit to drinking and driving but you can still drink a little and then drive. How much was she drinking? We don't know. We don't know that she was drunk in the first place. It was his word vs hers. She said she had something to drink, but it doesn't mean drunk. Big difference. Not everyone drinks themselves into oblivion when they have alcoholic beverages.
The husband says she bit him. As far as domestic abuse goes, just a few general guidelines and then some specifics. First, it's generally the man abusing the woman. They are supposed to attempt to get the other point of view before assuming the one the got on one side was not a lie or had ommissions. How do you know she wasn't defending herself from him? We don't and they didn't from what I could see.
The woman was calm and locked in her car. Why was she trying to keep him at bay? We don't know.
The policeman comes over with intent to taser her and takes what was a relatively calm situation and elevates it by pointing his taser at her and threatening her to immediately comply without hearing anything she has to say. What if she were innocent of all the charges?
A police officer has the obligation to protect his life, obviously but it does not supersede any other individual's right to protect their's either. That is another point we differ on, I'm sure. A police officer may indeed take his/her past experience and apply it to the current situation they find themselves in but they cannot go in all John Wayne-like into every situation with guns/tasers blazing and then sort out the truth afterwards when there is no threat to their safety that they didn't cause.
All of you on that side pretend that it is ok but the truth of the matter is we've all broken the law in various ways. Not one person on this planet who has ever been born has not broken a law. We do not need to be electrecuted because of suspicion of breaking a law that is not of a very serious nature, if then. We do not need to be herded and goaded into a corner physically and mentally given no choice but to feel threatened to the point we feel we need to protect ourselves. Argue all you want but the truth is you simply don't have empathy for that woman. Why do you not have empathy? You are too young? You are of a different race? You cannot see yourself or your family members in that situation? Human beings deserve better than to be treated like that.
My name is not a support of terrorists. My name is support for the millions and millions of Muslims who are NOT terrorists. Educate yourself. Peace.

by **-HaVoC-** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:11 am

I'm curious, how long should they wait for her to get out of the car? How many times should they ask her to get out of the car. How many times should they warn her that she is going to be incapacitated by a tazer?

I can tell you that one way or another force was a the only solution that woman was going to understand. It is a shame the outcome wasn't different, but the fault is with her.

by **CodeRed68** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:25 am

If you are referring to my post regarding personal attacks. Let me just say my post did not have any personal attack in it. I stated that his forum/gaming name is offensive to me as well as other people, given the circumstances of world events lately. I did not critisize him or his character personally.
In a society, there are certain things you must be held responsible for. Whether it is a conroversial name, the way you dress, etc. I am not saying it is wrong, but you have to be prepared for and take responsibilty for reactions.

by **cavalierlwt** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:28 am

Fact: Domestic Abuse laws specify arrest if there is an accusation of violence. It's not predicated on what the other person has to say. Also, sex has nothing to do with, man or woman, the law applies equally. If the woman had stated that the man had hit her, and she bit him in self defense, then they would arrest BOTH the man and the woman. That's how it works. FACT: as soon as the man said 'she bit me' the woman was getting arrested. That all there is to it, she was going to be arrested. The charges might be dropped later, but the fact is she was going to be arrested right then and there, regardless of what her side of the story is.
You're right though, I have no empathy for the woman. I'm not young, I'm 36. For me to feel bad for that woman there would have to be some justification for why she didn't get out that car, turn around and put her hands behind her back when commanded to. She has no justification, she is just someone who thinks they are above the law.

by **Stl Lunatic** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:34 am

I will make one last attempt to reason with you people and then, I guess I will also let this thread die because we are going around and around without arriving at any destination I agree with. Watch that video again. Whenever one of you tries to give an accurate account of it, you fail to do so. You skip parts and you leave out the other side.
The man says she was drunk. Not a cop. There is a legal limit to drinking and driving but you can still drink a little and then drive. How much was she drinking? We don't know. We don't know that she was drunk in the first place. It was his word vs hers.

There was reasonable doubt that she was drunk...

by **cavalierlwt** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:38 am

She was being arrested, at the very least for domestic abuse. That's clear at the beginning of the video. The second officer mentions DWI.

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