Who's next after Saddam?

Off topic, but don't go too far overboard - after all, we are watching...heh.
COL.BUKKAKE

Postby COL.BUKKAKE » Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:33 pm

Originally posted by COL.BUKKAKE
AH but can you tell me how Degrelle was punished. Oh yeah I forgot, he died sun-tanned in Spain at the young age of 87. The darling of the neo-Nazi's throughout Europe.

Belgium did nothing to force the Spanish to give him up.

At the end of WWII, 100,000 Belgians returned home including 30,000 who fought for the Nazi's. Virtually all recieved welfare benefits, the only ones who didnt, "racial deportees".....the JEWS.

Funny to me that your GOV. feels the need to try Sharon, and yet Saddam gets the thumbs up.

Something smells bad and I doubt its the waffels:D


I'm going to post this again, just wanted to get Floppy's reply towards this, BloodBudda buried it. :D


Floppy who will hate our country more? The Muslims, their hatred will always be there, the difference is we will defend ourselves with a president like Bush in office.

Doug the Unforgiven

Postby Doug the Unforgiven » Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:36 pm

Just shut up. I'm tired of all the US-hating propaganda. You idiots accuse us of believing everything our government or media tell us. Yet you forgetful morons want to insist that info coming from other governments is somehow lily-white. You cowards would rather believe Saddam than Bush or Blair. I guess this means Saddam never gassed the Kurds, never tortures or murders dissidents, never has women raped in front of their husbands. I guess, in your pathetic views, that Bush and Blair have done all this evil in Iraq, and have cleverly pinned it on Hussein (but not too clever, since you "geniuses" have seen right through it).

Much of Europe has forgotten the sacrifices made by the US for their freedom, even the worthless freedom to be a socialist fagland. But the US would be considered the bad guy if Europe got in trouble again, and the US didn't once again step in to help. Too bad, there's much of Europe that needs to be forgotten.

For you US-hating Americans, you should be ashamed. I include Canada in this, too. There are some very supportive Canucks on this board, and I appreciate that. But some of you 'Nads need to remember that the US has been nothing but great for your country. You don't have to worry about shit since the "imperialistic" US sits at your border and still doesn't invade. That border is the longest undefended border in the world. How does Canada even exist with such a ruthless neighbor? Pathetic.

I would just laugh at all the nonsense, but sometimes I just want to puke.

Thank you, Britons. The US didn't really need your help. But with a strong leader who recognizes the world's dangers, Britain has been a stalwart friend. You have suffered proportionately far more casualties than we have and I regret all OUR losses.

Any of you who cheer American and British casualties can just fuck off. We don't need to hear or read any of your senseless drivel.

COL.BUKKAKE

Postby COL.BUKKAKE » Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:55 pm

Very nice Doug, oh if I could just put down in words the way you are able to, this thread wouldnt have a chance.

Heres a little story about how horrible America is:http://www.weeklystandard.com/content/public/articles/000/000/002/399eqovn.asp

Rule of Wrist

Postby Rule of Wrist » Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:36 pm

Bloodbudda, I read about 2/3rds of your link. Time constraints prevented me from reading further. It is thought provoking, however, I suspect that the author has a vested interest in CITA, whatever that really is.

He gives out this nightmare scenario, then offers a solution to it in CITA. And he has no stake in this? Come on. Classic hucksterism.

One thing I will agree on is that government growth IS out of control. I don't mean the feds, or the state, but collectively. Rate of government growth is outrageous and unsustainable in the long run. What to do? I don't know... it is very difficult to cut out cancer(corruption) when it reaches such a point.

That does not change my view that we are right to try to break the kordian knot be taking a chance and starting freedom rolling in the middle east. Currently, the middle east as a whole is a cancer on the world. Allowed to keep growing, it would bring down everything. The dark ages of history would repeat themselves. It still might, but we are going to do our best to prevent it.

I also believe that many countries are complicit in that cancer.

As to your link to that list of events leading up to 9/11, there are so many holes in it that I could drain pasta with it if I printed it.

You appear to be a religious person. Religion is the main reason wars have been fought over the last 3000 years. It is a big part of this current war. As long as there are Religious divisions there will be conflict. In other words, humans will always find something to fight over. It is our way. It is only a question of which side wins or loses. What if the Nazis had won the battle of Britain? What if the Japanese had taken Hawaii? What if the "muslim" nations win this current conflict?

Rule of Wrist

Postby Rule of Wrist » Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:44 pm

One thing that has bothered me for some time, and is a parallel to ancient Rome is Entertainment. The Roman emperors re-instituted the coliseums and gladiators and the like to enthrall the populace. When they were sufficiently distracted by this they became more pliable and easy to manipulate because their full faculties were not concentrated on truly important things.

I see a lot of that now and it scares me a little. People care more about movies than how much tax they pay. They are more interested in the latest "reality" show than they are about what happened in the world today. They are more interested in online vide.... never mind... :D

I don't mean to go off the deep end here, it's just a little unnerving to me when I think about it.... history repeating itself and all....

Doug the Unforgiven

Postby Doug the Unforgiven » Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:54 pm

Originally posted by COL.BUKKAKE
Very nice Doug, oh if I could just put down in words the way you are able to, this thread wouldnt have a chance.

Heres a little story about how horrible America is:http://www.weeklystandard.com/content/public/articles/000/000/002/399eqovn.asp


Yet more proof of the horror that is the Evil American Empire.:D

BloodBudda

Postby BloodBudda » Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:00 am

Not religious, spiritual. There is a big difference. What I am saying is that the powers that be, are working on making the prophesies of the Bible reality, wether or not you believe in them or not.

This is not religious belief, this is what I see happening. I can't help it if I see the parallels between the Bible and the current situation in the Mideast. It practically glares out at me.

As far as the CAFR letter, check out the The Comprehensive Annual Financial Report (CAFR) for your state, county, or even city and match it up with the "official" budget relesed to the public. I think you will be suprised, even just at a glance.

The whole of the US government is one giant RICO act. If only one would look at the information objectively.

I can not and will not defend the assholes, err "leaders" of this nation any longer. Any act they commit now, will only serve to cover their ass. They are criminals. They are traitors. They deserve to die.

And yes, history is repeating itself. Rome, like the pheonix is rising from the ashes. Ready for yet another run on this planet. Another Dark Age is upon us. I hope the light of reason and truth will dispell and finally "the truth shall set us free".

I hope you have made peace with your maker.

Rule of Wrist

Postby Rule of Wrist » Tue Mar 25, 2003 3:00 am

All of this doom and gloom rhetoric is all well and fine. But, if what you say is true, then you will be killed very soon for too much knowledge.

As you say, there is more money involved that can be comprehended, if this true, how much is your life worth... what if I told you I was an EFF, BEE, EYE, AGENT!

Carnivore is now tracking you, have a nice day....

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Postby bayotanzk » Tue Mar 25, 2003 8:51 am

qoute:
"Budda is correct. The US is trying to sell us this war with the argument "We will free the people of Iraq" but if we see reality, the US does not really care about the Iraqi people."

Well guys I can tell you that I do not give a crap about the Iraqi people and if you statement was true why is Bagdad not flat as a pancake and void of life. If any of you folks do not think the US has the ability to do that you are living in more of a fantasy world that I had ever imagined.

On another note: We allow and encourage relgious freedom in the US. With all the garbage done after 9/11 I only heard about ONE case in which there was a masque vandalized. We can control our selves and police our country. Why is belgium unable to do the same?
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[WEF]Herr Renz

Postby [WEF]Herr Renz » Tue Mar 25, 2003 12:29 pm

Originally posted by COL.BUKKAKE
1) We will rebuild Iraq, just as we did France,Germany, Japan and others after WWII(how quickly Eurpeans forget)

2) Aid workers cant get in because the area is not secure enough, due to the fact that the Iraqi military are disguising themselves as civilians and killing our soldiers.

3) Bush has just asked our Gov for 20 billion in aid for the Iraqi's.

4) The Iraqi people are not our problem, they are the world's problem. If your country and France and the wonderful Germany would have put aside their backdoor dealings with Saddam and forced him to disarm our soldiers wouldnt have to do it for the rest of the world.

5) Dont worry you dont have to worry bout another Bin Laden, becuase Belgium, France and Germany make it pewrfectly clear that they are anti-semitic and appease the vast Muslim population that thrives throughout Western Europe.

Funny isnt Renz hearing things from our side of the fence. Maybe you should turn off Al-Jazeera TV and tune into Fox News once in a while......Dont say CNN because CNN=Al-Jazeera


1) how do you gonna rebuild human lives?

2) if you didn't want american soldiers to die you didn't had to go into war... (and btw. america has also something like undercover agents and spies... they do just the same...)

3) a little late to ask that... 20billion isn't something you get in a few minutes... people are dying NOW

4) you invaded Iraq so the iraqi people are goddamned your problem... america is RESPONSIBLE for every iraqi life...
don't tell something if you don't know anything about it... the world hasn't brought those problems to iraq, america has, by making a war...

5) i allready told it... i'm glade that i never have to be afraid that some terrorist drops a bom in my house... i'm only afraid that after it happens in america AGAIN bush will now sya it is europe's fault and start his third war...


you're doing it the silly way..; srry to tell but that's how it is... i say cnn cause i don't know the names of american tv... and i never watch cnn, only the wbe iste sometimes... i watch belgian television... there i hear enough of your side of the fence... (in this country television has no own opinion...:cool: )

Doug the Unforgiven

Postby Doug the Unforgiven » Tue Mar 25, 2003 12:36 pm

Wow, Renz. You try so hard to make sense. Belgian TV has no opinion? You lost credibility there.

I watched Lebanese news the other night. I guess they have no opinion either with phrases such as "US-led aggression".

COL.BUKKAKE

Postby COL.BUKKAKE » Tue Mar 25, 2003 12:57 pm

Originally posted by [WEF]Herr Renz
1) how do you gonna rebuild human lives?

2) if you didn't want american soldiers to die you didn't had to go into war... (and btw. america has also something like undercover agents and spies... they do just the same...)

3) a little late to ask that... 20billion isn't something you get in a few minutes... people are dying NOW

4) you invaded Iraq so the iraqi people are goddamned your problem... america is RESPONSIBLE for every iraqi life...
don't tell something if you don't know anything about it... the world hasn't brought those problems to iraq, america has, by making a war...

5) i allready told it... i'm glade that i never have to be afraid that some terrorist drops a bom in my house... i'm only afraid that after it happens in america AGAIN bush will now sya it is europe's fault and start his third war...


you're doing it the silly way..; srry to tell but that's how it is... i say cnn cause i don't know the names of american tv... and i never watch cnn, only the wbe iste sometimes... i watch belgian television... there i hear enough of your side of the fence... (in this country television has no own opinion...:cool: )



Renz I was going to rant on and on, on how wrong you are. But I can see any point I could possibly make would fall on deaf ears.

You believe what your GOV tells you, thats fine.

I wish you well in your fairy tale world. :D

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Postby Rule of Wrist » Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:06 pm

Let me see, Renz thinks that his media is above bias?

Come on. No one is above bias of some kind. It's just a question of how much and which way.

Western Europe right now is basically socialist. It is the ideal held up by its govs, its people, and its media. This is against the ideals of most americans. It is the reason america broke from europe in the first place. (European disagreement).

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Postby bayotanzk » Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:19 pm

Herr Renz, I enjoy playing RTCW with you and you are a good fellow, but all media is biased.
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[WEF]Herr Renz

Postby [WEF]Herr Renz » Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:45 pm

man, i heard it too about the 2000 iraqi prisoners... and about the iraqi showing prisoners at tv... and Saddam is a dictator no doubt about that...

but for me nothing is worse that war... it is the combination of almost every crime you can think about ...

(and something about belgian television: there are two big news tv's in belgium (flemish) one is biased (vtm) and one isn't (vrt) and the only reasson people look to vrt is because it isn't biased... )

and Bukkake, telling that you can tell me i'm wrong but you won't do it because i wouldn't listen is a bit too the easy way don't you think... like bush saying he has prove but doesn't want to share it because we wouldn't believe it... ;)

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