Just like the *real* Avril
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- Murgatroyd
Just like the *real* Avril
So good looking on the outside - a dangerous piece of code on the inside.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3661678.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3661678.stm
- cavalierlwt
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WTF? How does Windows work, under the hood that is?
I'm obviously no hacker, but I consider myself a fair programmer, or at least I was at one time. I have a rudimentary understanding of the Windows OS. I can't figure out how the hell Windows works so that a buffer overun would cause a hacker to be able to take control of your machine. Anyone know how this type of thing works--in simple terms?
What the hell does Windows do, attempt to 'run' any data that overflows a buffer??
I'm obviously no hacker, but I consider myself a fair programmer, or at least I was at one time. I have a rudimentary understanding of the Windows OS. I can't figure out how the hell Windows works so that a buffer overun would cause a hacker to be able to take control of your machine. Anyone know how this type of thing works--in simple terms?
What the hell does Windows do, attempt to 'run' any data that overflows a buffer??
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Originally posted by cavalierlwt
Anyone know how this type of thing works
Yes.
--in simple terms?
No.
Anyway, t's not a vulnerability that's specific to Windows. Most programs have them. But Windows has a LOT of them.
Chacal
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- cavalierlwt
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Yeah, I understand the concept of privilege levels and windows lack of them. The thing that throws me is is the overflow resulting in the some code getting executed. When I think of overflows, I think of data maybe getting written to memory that should be protected, outside of reserved memory etc. This usually causes a program, perhaps the OS itself, to lock up. I'm just trying to figure out the logic of the OS looking at a buffer overflow, then attempting to 'run' the overflowing data as though it were an executable.
Failing to plead
with a throat full of dust
Life falls asleep
in a fetal position.
with a throat full of dust
Life falls asleep
in a fetal position.
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