Another pit bull vs infant mauling..

by **CodeRed68** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:15 pm

http://www.cnn.com/video/partners/clickability/index.html?url=/video/us/2006/07/09/nguyen.baby.mauled.by.dog.affl

I in no way think this is amusing or entertaining.. just bringing to attention that these dogs have no place in the home. (flame away pit bull owners...)

*this will open a CNN video window*

by **Sabres** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:20 pm

wow unfortunate

by **PraiseA||ah** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:56 pm

I had a roommate with a pit bull. I've been around a few of them over the years. I don't think it's completely a breed issue but more of an issue with the type of person who likes the breed's reputation and trains (or doesn't as the case may be) the dog.

I do not understand why that animal is still alive (no mention of it's death). Were that me, a child (any child), any dog and that situation - that dog would be dead and we would be discussing it in past terms.

by **cavalierlwt** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:12 pm

Some breeds, regardless of training are more likely to attack kids,dogs, cats etc, and IMHO pit bulls are one of them. The dog may seem domesticated as hell, and seem fine with a whole bunch of kids, but every now and then, they lash out a some poor kid.
I hate to say it, but I do think pitbulls are dangerous. Just my opinion based on what I have seen, people can talk about nurture all they like, I still see problem in the nature of the beast, one that you don't see usually in mutts, or golden retrievers, etc.

by **CodeRed68** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:24 pm

Originally posted by cavalierlwt
Some breeds, regardless of training are more likely to attack kids,dogs, cats etc, and IMHO pit bulls are one of them. The dog may seem domesticated as hell, and seem fine with a whole bunch of kids, but every now and then, they lash out a some poor kid.
I hate to say it, but I do think pitbulls are dangerous. Just my opinion based on what I have seen, people can talk about nurture all they like, I still see problem in the nature of the beast, one that you don't see usually in mutts, or golden retrievers, etc.

My point exactly!
They seriously have to be revisited as allowable pets. That's coming from me.. who loves animals more than people and has always had and currenly has a dog.

by **PraiseA||ah** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:04 pm

I think just about any breed is potentially dangerous. I've seen insane dogs of many breeds. Of course, being attacked by a Chihuahua is not quite the same as being attacked by a dog with enormous head and jaws. Some is nature and some of it is undoubtedly nurture. I've seen some very sweet pitbulls which were scared of a shadow and wouldn't hurt anyone.

In this case, the owners KNEW there was a problem.

by **Slaughter2** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:22 pm

no reason these dogs should be on the earth, they were orig. breed for fighting, and its in thru their genes, I don't care how nice any large dog is, after sometime the dog will freak out, elephant rampage anyone??

this is the exact reason they are banned in many states

My 2 cents

by **Stl Lunatic** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:21 am

It's really hard to govern a law that would be a happy medium between not having the dogs and having them..I think the main problem is the people who are breeding them for fighting and being mean agressive dogs...its just very hard to say if or if not someone is making killer dogs and even if they were what do you do about it? Kill them...put them in a pound which will cause more dogs to be put to sleap for no reason...I am pretty sure that pit bulls that are treated right and not breed for fighting but as a companion are almost always good dogs...in St. Louis I don't know if its a state county or city law but somewhere you have to register your dog if it is a potentially dangerous breed....

Its very unfortunate that these dogs do what they do to people when they are raised this way...

by **=ender=** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:40 am

Originally posted by Stl Lunatic
Its very unfortunate that these dogs do what they do to people when they are raised this way...

My thoughts exactly

by **SavageParrot** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:44 am

You can't blame the dog. Dogs act on instinct. In this case it was a very dumb plan to send the dog away initially. Their house was the dogs house and sending the dog away because of the child was bound to have an affect on the dog. Animals aren't dumb like that, the dog was gonna know that the baby was the reason he'd been thrown out and reacted according to instinct.

They should have introduced the dog on day 1 and most probably there would have been no problem. We had a dog when my sister was small. He'd snap at almost every stranger but never at my sister in fact he'd fiercely protect her.

That said if it was my dog there's no way he'd be in a cage waiting to be put down. I'd have finished him myself as soon as I got back from the hospital if not before.

Animals need to know their place. If they don't then that's mostly the fault of the owner for not showing it to them.

by **Bromsin** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:09 am

I beleive that all dogs have some kind of temperment that can be set off by something. Whether its a high pitched noise or a baby crying. I also beleive that its not the dogs fault, they dont understand what they were doing or that it was necessarily wrong.

Its a shame that so many dogs are put to sleep after an attack, when its really not their fault to begin with.

People can be to blame more than the dogs themselves in most cases, the rest are just insticts that animals have. You never know what may set an animal off. I have seen it iwth dogs and cats. Maybe its because these animals never 100% conform to being pets and have some underlying instict to attack or defend, who knows what really goes on inside their heads.

You also need to remember that the same happens on a daily basis with people. Your best friend could be the nicest person in the world then all of a sudden for no reason snap and go on a killing spree. So its not just animals that seem to have this problem. Its people as well.

by **Evan** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:14 pm

Originally posted by Bromsin
I beleive that all dogs have some kind of temperment that can be set off by something. Whether its a high pitched noise or a baby crying. I also beleive that its not the dogs fault, they dont understand what they were doing or that it was necessarily wrong.

Its a shame that so many dogs are put to sleep after an attack, when its really not their fault to begin with.

People can be to blame more than the dogs themselves in most cases, the rest are just insticts that animals have. You never know what may set an animal off. I have seen it iwth dogs and cats. Maybe its because these animals never 100% conform to being pets and have some underlying instict to attack or defend, who knows what really goes on inside their heads.

You also need to remember that the same happens on a daily basis with people. Your best friend could be the nicest person in the world then all of a sudden for no reason snap and go on a killing spree. So its not just animals that seem to have this problem. Its people as well.

We should start putting people to sleep too then. Would help society. We'd be better off.

by **Bromsin** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:26 pm

Well, most places do have the death penalty. Problem is people remain on death row for years and years and years...

by **willy lump lump** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:03 pm

irresponsible dog owners. would a dog person send their dog away for 11 months? "We should start putting people to sleep too then. Would help society. We'd be better off." evan i agree, but humans can think and speak. well about 94% of us humans can do both. dogs are just animals. are you gonna take an animal to live with you without giving it rules, boudries and limitations? ( i am reading cesar milans book) i am willing to bet this dog voided and pissed in the house. "I do not understand why that animal is still alive (no mention of it's death). Were that me, a child (any child), any dog and that situation - that dog would be dead and we would be discussing it in past terms." Praise great point! for me i would have to pull a George Milton on my dog. a little allusion for yall who are well read.

to blame the dog is like saying guns kill people not the person pulling the trigger. no matter how tame a dog is it should never be left by an infant without DIRECT control of the situation by the parents and or owners. i wonder if these people should have been even procreating.

by **Bromsin** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:28 pm

I agree with willy even though i couldnt understand almost everything he typed hehe..

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