Lee Marvin, Mr Rogers & Capt Kangaroo

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Lee Marvin, Mr Rogers & Capt Kangaroo

Postby CodeRed68 » Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:35 am

Hey I got this email from a friend and though I'd share.. this is really interesting info (if true)...

You Might Not Ever Guess
Captain Kangaroo passed away on January 23, 2004 as age 76 , which is odd, because he always looked to be 76. (DOB: 6/27/27 ) His death reminded me of the following story.

Some people have been a bit offended that the actor, Lee Marvin, is buried in a grave alongside 3 and 4 star generals at Arlington National Cemetery . His marker gives his name, rank (PVT) and service (USMC). Nothing else. Here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time, why the heck does he rate burial with these guys? Well, following is the amazing answer:

I always liked Lee Marvin, but didn't know the extent of his Corps experiences.
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In a time when many Hollywood stars served their country in the armed forces often in rear echelon posts where they were carefully protected, only to be trotted out to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions,

Lee Marvin was a genuine hero. He won the Navy Cross at Iwo Jima There is only one higher Naval award... the Medal Of Honor
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If that is a surprising comment on the true character of the man, he credits his sergeant with an even greater show of bravery.< B>

Dialog from "The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson": His guest was Lee Marvin Johnny said, "Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima ...and that during the course of that action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded."
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"Yeah, yeah... I got shot square in the bottom and they gave me the Cross for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi. Bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys getting' shot hauling you down. But,Johnny, at Iwo I served under the bravest man I ever knew... We both got the cross the same day, but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. That dumb guy actually stood up on Red beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the hell off the beach. Bullets flying by, with mortar rounds landing everywhere and he stood there as the main target of gunfire so that he could get his men to safety. He did this on more than one occasion because his men's safety was more important than his own life.

That Sergeant and I have been lifelong friends. When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the Sergeant and he lit a smoke and passed it to me, lying on my belly on the litter and said, where'd they get you Lee?' Well Bob... if you make it home be fore me, tell Mom to sell the outhouse!"
Johnny, I'm not lying, Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest man I ever knew.
The Sergeant's name is Bob Keeshan.
You and the world know him as Captain Kangaroo."
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On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who just passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But
Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat-proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long-sleeved sweater on TV, to cover the many tattoos on his forearm and biceps. He was a master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat
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After the wa r Mr. Rogers became an ordained Presbyterian minister and therefore a pacifist. Vowing to never harm another human and also dedicating the rest of his life to trying to help lead children on the right path in life. He hid away the tattoos and his past life and won our hearts with his quiet wit and charm.

America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did; they quietly go about their day-to-day lives, doing what they do best. They earned our respect and the freedoms that we all enjoy.
Look around and see if you can find one of those heroes in your midst.
Often, they are the ones you'd least suspect, but would most like to have on your side if anything ever happened.
Take the time to thank anyone that has fought for our freedom. With encouragement they could be the next Captain Kangaroo or Mr. Rogers
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Re: Lee Marvin, Mr Rogers & Capt Kangaroo

Postby TiNM@N » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:40 am

I know it isn't the gospel: from wikipedia:

Urban legends

Fred Rogers has been the subject of a few urban legends. Among the urban legends and rumors about Rogers[16]:

* That he served in the military around the era of the Vietnam war.
* That he was a Marine sniper, or a Navy SEAL, and that the reason for him always wearing cardigans was to cover tattoos on his arms.
* That he had a skull tattoo on his arm for every man that he killed as a sniper.
* That he stuck his middle finger up to his young audience during his final broadcast in 2000.

Rumors to this effect have been completely discounted as being false on urban legend verification websites[16]. Not only is military service not mentioned in any biographies about him, but there is no period of time, unaccounted for, where he could have been involved in war efforts. During most of the Vietnam conflict, he was fully dedicated to his television show Mister Rogers' Neighborhood and before that, around the start of Vietnam, he was living and working in Canada, and was working on getting rights for his show and moving it to Pittsburgh.
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Re: Lee Marvin, Mr Rogers & Capt Kangaroo

Postby Namloot » Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:24 pm

OK, still impressive are Lee Marvin and Capt Kangaroo!
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Re: Lee Marvin, Mr Rogers & Capt Kangaroo

Postby cavalierlwt » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:52 pm

The whole thing is bunk. Captain Kangaroo was in the Marines but didn't fight at Iwo Jima and didn't see any combat at all. Marvin did fight in the Pacific and was wounded,but no Navy Cross or anything like that.
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Re: Lee Marvin, Mr Rogers & Capt Kangaroo

Postby Lord ZOG » Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:37 pm

I heard the same spiel years ago. The Lee Marvin story is bunk, and the Captain Kangaroo and Mr. Rodgers BS is just that; pure Internet BS.


An internet rumor circulated in recent years purports that Marvin appeared on "The Tonight Show" and told host Johnny Carson that he had served in the Marine Corps fighting alongside Bob Keeshan (alias Captain Kangaroo) at the Battle of Iwo Jima. There is no truth whatsoever to this tale. Marvin never told the story, never served on Iwo Jima (having been invalided out after the battle of Saipan months earlier), and Keeshan never saw combat in any form, having enlisted just before the end of the war.


I know it might sound like something people want to believe, but it ain't true.

Oh, and Santa Claus isn't real, either. He was killed in Korea.
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Re: Lee Marvin, Mr Rogers & Capt Kangaroo

Postby CodeRed68 » Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:41 pm

oh ok.. sorry guys.. guess i should've checked it with the urban legends or rumours site... my bad.. :tard: << me
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Re: Lee Marvin, Mr Rogers & Capt Kangaroo

Postby cavalierlwt » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:12 pm

Don't feel bad, it's always interesting to talk about myths and urban legends.
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