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Software Lawsuit

Postby Colonel Ingus » Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:33 pm

This article talks about a federal lawsuit against the merger of Oracle and Peoplesoft.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=509&ncid=509&e=1&u=/ap/20040226/ap_on_bi_ge/oracle_peoplesoft_3

So let me see if I get this straight:

It's ok for Microsft to completely subjugate and pillage the personal sotware market but we can't have someone do that to big businesses! OH NO!:ar15:
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Postby Ralph Wiggum » Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:36 pm

I think in general in antitrust situations mergers get a lot of scrutiny. It is one thing to grow to dominate an industry and another to try to merge into that position.

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Postby LordShard » Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:46 pm

Just wait until mictosoft makes up pay by he minute to use it's OS

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Postby igloo17 » Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:51 pm

Originally posted by LordShard
Just wait until mictosoft makes up pay by he minute to use it's OS


Thats whats coming next.

LordShard

Postby LordShard » Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:59 pm

Originally posted by igloo17
Thats whats coming next.
Yeah I know. THat is why I said it. No one is going to pay by the minute for an OS wqhen they can get a unix box for free. Even if RH9 is a wee bit slow even on a mega system Image

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Postby RCinator » Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:34 pm

Eh - MS bashing for the sake of MS bashing is unwaranted. Linux is more apt to eat into Unix's market share than it is into MS's. At the corporate level, huge conversion projects are unbelievably expensive (retraining, new hardware, re-writing incompatible apps), so conversion happens very slowly if at all. Not to mention the editions of Linux that a coroporation would use are NOT free.

On the end-user side, I like Linux a lot, but I wouldn't recommend it to my grandmother. I use it for some things, but I could take it or leave it (same with Windows). In the long scheme of things, Unix, Linux, and Windows are all just the current state of operating systems. Many have come and gone, and so shall many more. The whole fanatacism around a person's favorite OS always blows my mind.

LordShard

Postby LordShard » Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:38 pm

Originally posted by RCinator
Eh - MS bashing for the sake of MS bashing is unwaranted. Linux is more apt to eat into Unix's market share than it is into MS's. At the corporate level, huge conversion projects are unbelievably expensive (retraining, new hardware, re-writing incompatible apps), so conversion happens very slowly if at all. Not to mention the editions of Linux that a coroporation would use are NOT free.

On the end-user side, I like Linux a lot, but I wouldn't recommend it to my grandmother. I use it for some things, but I could take it or leave it (same with Windows). In the long scheme of things, Unix, Linux, and Windows are all just the current state of operating systems. Many have come and gone, and so shall many more. The whole fanatacism around a person's favorite OS always blows my mind.
I wasn't talking about corporate. I know RH advance server costs $3k. but for most people why pay per minute when they could use unix for free? also linux servers are now 1/3 of the server market. go figure ;)

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Postby smithpa68 » Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:45 pm

Originally posted by LordShard
I wasn't talking about corporate. I know RH advance server costs $3k. but for most people why pay per minute when they could use unix for free? also linux servers are now 1/3 of the server market. go figure ;)


Where did you get the 1/3 of the server market statistic? Can you provide a link?

RCinator

Postby RCinator » Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:47 pm

Originally posted by LordShard
but for most people why pay per minute when they could use unix for free?


Because grandma is completely incapable of running a linux/unix box ;)

LordShard

Postby LordShard » Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:53 pm

Originally posted by RCinator
Because grandma is completely incapable of running a linux/unix box ;)
lol, gnome or kde isn't to hard to use. and btw I hate linux to the deepest of my soul and I dislike apple and microsoft but I'm to cheap to buy anouther winOS so linux it is for when I am forced to upgrade.
as far as grandma goes you could probably give her win95 and she wouldn't know the diff :P

LordShard

Postby LordShard » Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:01 pm

Originally posted by smithpa68
Where did you get the 1/3 of the server market statistic? Can you provide a link?
It's in one of my text books. I'm studying to be a network engineer. I just need the A+ net+ and microsoft vert to get a job and then finish up the degree later after I have a job

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Postby RCinator » Thu Feb 26, 2004 9:42 pm

it's closer to 16 or 17%. Linux's market share is roughly $500M per quarter, with Unix around $4B and MS around $3B. I think you may have confused the 33% with Linux's compound revenue growth rate.

http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/story/0,10801,83478,00.html

http://www.computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/hardware/server/story/0,10801,84505,00.html

http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/story/0,10801,83167,00.html

LordShard

Postby LordShard » Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:00 am

hmm. well when I sat linux I'm really thinking unix. Unless I give a vendor name like red hat or mandrake. But I dunno. it's somewhere in one of my books and very likely the book is iether outdated, wrong or I thought of something wrong >.<

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Postby Chacal » Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:58 pm

There is a difference between server sales and server use. There's an awful lot of small companies out there using a free Linux on their servers. I have several. Never paid a buck for them.
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