The Forgotten Bond Film

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The Forgotten Bond Film

Postby 007 » Thu May 20, 2004 12:34 pm


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Postby SavageParrot » Thu May 20, 2004 2:10 pm

That'a an awesome piece of trivia. I spent ages with some mates a while back trying, while drunk, to list the bond films in order. The problem was we knew there were twenty and were trying to work around that, right? Wrong there are twenty one as 'never say never again' was an unofficial bond (you fuckers) and that makes twenty one (of course casino royale makes 22 but we all knew that). That confused the shit out of my alcohol addled brain and no mistake. Now I can really confuse people with this newly discovered film!
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Postby 007 » Thu May 20, 2004 2:16 pm

Originally posted by SavageParrot
The problem was we knew there were twenty and were trying to work around that, right? Wrong there are twenty one as 'never say never again' was an unofficial bond (you fuckers) and that makes twenty one (of course casino royale makes 22 but we all knew that). That confused the shit out of my alcohol addled brain and no mistake. Now I can really confuse people with this newly discovered film!


NSNA was an unoffical Bond film become it wasn't produced by...MGM I believe. Here are all the Bond films if you need the list:

Dr. No (1962)
From Russia with Love (1963)
Goldfinger (1964)
Thunderball (1965)
You Only Live Twice (1967)
On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)
Diamonds are Forever (1971)
Live and Let Die (1973)
The Man with the Golden Gun (1974)
The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
Moonraker (1979)
For Your Eyes Only (1981)
Octopussy (1983)
Never Say Never Again (1983)
A View to a Kill (1985)
The Living Daylights (1987)
Licence to Kill (1989)
Goldeneye (1995)
Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
The World Is Not Enough (1999)
Die Another Day (2002)

If anybody needs a list of the games tell me... :P

3rd Edit: There are actually two versions of Casino Royale. The first version is the...195..6 version which was a TV show I believe and the 2nd version is the 1967 version which was a movie.

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Postby BladeRunner » Thu May 20, 2004 2:25 pm

We don't call you 007 for nothing :)
btw, good job last night getting the airfield on Husky :)
i know who to send on secret missions from now on. :)
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Postby 007 » Thu May 20, 2004 2:34 pm

Originally posted by BladeRunner
btw, good job last night getting the airfield on Husky :)
i know who to send on secret missions from now on. :)
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Thanks blade :D Although I wish I wasn't seen by that guy who said I was at the airfield...Need to work on my stealth a bit...

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Postby JimmyTango » Thu May 20, 2004 4:19 pm

The first Casino Royale was a TV movie starring Jimmy Bond, the American Agent(leave it to US TV to screw around).

NSNA is not considered part of the Bond franchise since it was not an MGM movie nor was it produced by the long time producer. I beleive there was a decent lawsuit over it, too.

It was just a remake, and a bad one, of Thunderball.

I hope after Bronson is done with the franchise, the re-do it as the rumors have been saying. I am sick and tired of the movies being one big stunt scene after another. It is time they go back to the cold blooded killer that Bond at one time was, instead of the watered done joke of a 'spy' he is now. Bronson is a good actor for the role, but his scripts have sucked besides Goldeneye.

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Postby SavageParrot » Thu May 20, 2004 4:28 pm

Originally posted by JimmyTango
It was just a remake, and a bad one, of Thunderball.


But with hair dye to cover up the leads gray hair:D
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Postby 007 » Thu May 20, 2004 4:41 pm

Originally posted by JimmyTango
NSNA is not considered part of the Bond franchise since it was not an MGM movie nor was it produced by the long time producer. I beleive there was a decent lawsuit over it, too.

It was just a remake, and a bad one, of Thunderball.


Yeah but if I remember correctly Kevin McGlory didn't get all the rights. He got the rights for SPECTRE and Ernst Stavro Blofeld but he didn't get the rights for things like the Vodka Martini Shaken not Stirred (In NSNA, it's "On the Rocks"), and there's no gunbarrel sequence. I didn't really think Thunderball was that great of a movie. I always found it kind of boring.

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Postby Ralph Wiggum » Thu May 20, 2004 7:04 pm

Wow, never heard of this film. I read the book Moonraker and I have to say the poster indicates that the 1956 version was a more accurate adaptation. I too wish they would quit trying to out-do Die Hard or some Vin Diesel movie and get back to basics. Of course I doubt it will happen.

I've read most of the Ian Fleming books and a number of the ones written by John Gardner and some other guy (the copyright owners licensed Gardner and eventually the others to write new books beginnning in the early 80s). Bond in the Fleming books is in some ways cooler than even Connery in the films. Like Jimmy says, he was cold blooded. I enjoyed the later books too. Some of them were very good, better than the new movies for sure. The action is a little more believable.

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Postby 007 » Thu May 20, 2004 7:07 pm

Originally posted by Ralph Wiggum
I've read most of the Ian Fleming books and a number of the ones written by John Gardner and some other guy


Kingsley Amis or Raymond Benson.

Trivia: The James Bond text adventures A View to a Kill (1985) and Goldfinger (1986) were written by RB. He also did a text adventure of Stephen King's "The Mist".

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Postby SavageParrot » Thu May 20, 2004 7:30 pm

Originally posted by Ralph Wiggum
I too wish they would quit trying to out-do Die Hard or some Vin Diesel movie and get back to basics.


You reminded me of xXx, man did that film suck donkey dick! It has the proud honour of being the only film I can remember to make action sequences boring, like that 5 minutes of riding around on a plantation performing ridiculously implausible and wanky jumps...yawn, could I have some plot please?

What is it with Vin Diesel anyway the man is barely able to speak let alone act, (though in fairness I did like Boiler Room).
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Postby Camel toe joe » Thu May 20, 2004 11:07 pm

you mean austin powers "The spy who shagged me" wasn't an offical bond move?:confused:

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Postby Colonel Savage » Fri May 21, 2004 12:15 am

Guys, you've all been had. That Simon Bermuda guy put it up as part creative writing project, part social experiment.

THERE WAS NO 1956 MOONRAKER.

Not even an unfinished one.

There's no way a little trivia nugget like that would have been swept under the carpet if it had existed. Between Bond fans, Orson Welles fans, Film buffs and historians, and the fact that its production would have been a matter of public record (heck even his 'article' mentions press announcements), it would have shown up in movie books decades ago.

But if you need further convincing, here's the link where he spills the beans:

http://www.commanderbond.net/Public/Stories/2323-1.shtml

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Postby SavageParrot » Fri May 21, 2004 4:23 am

Ah Nuts!
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Postby 007 » Fri May 21, 2004 7:54 am

Originally posted by Camel toe joe
you mean austin powers "The spy who shagged me" wasn't an offical bond move?:confused:


Sorry to disappoint you, but no.

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