Will You Miss the Stats?
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Will You Miss the Stats? (nvm... They are back)
by PL_M@ster » Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:16 pm
Yesterday, I asked MAN-AT-ARMS if the stats will be recording again someday. He answered me that it will probably never comes back. So I made this poll to see how many people would like to see their stats recording again.
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by Destructor » Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:18 pm
Nurse is right, it is nice to see your progress as you get better. but oh well.
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
by MichoRizo » Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:31 pm
I WANT MY STATS! thats the whole damn reason i come to ecgn is for the stats and my friends! I know 90 % of the regulars feel the same way if it has come to this than im off to a different hopefully but doubtfully better place! Stats is what made this server so fun and is why i kept coming back now that its gone i see no reason to stay! Well good bye guys im off to server hunt. Maybe ill see you around. Later!
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"Conquest is made from teh ashes of ones enemy's" "Happines is a sharp Katana....... and a Smooth decapitation."
"Traitors must DIE!"
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by SavageParrot » Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:02 pm
He's right the stats are what made ecgn stand out. I know people play better without them but to what end, anyway without the stats how else can you prove that a player sucks balls?
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by dsteere » Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:46 pm
You know it is funny that this stat's thing never came up until FF was turned on.
Well not really funny but you all know what I mean.
I was talking to a programmer friend that works in the game industry designing these very games we all love to play and he stated that punk buster as well as FF turned on increases network traffic as well as the processor time of the machines that run the server and web server dramatically.
When he heard of 64 players and all the stuff that goes with it his only comment was is this free and public. Wow these people are real generous. He started to tell me what was necessary to pull this off and you want to what? You are very generous.
My questions to MmmmGood and MAN-AT-ARMS are as follows.
1. Was this a problem a month ago?
2. Are you just tired of supporting this? Which if that is the issue no problem.
3. How about trying punk buster and FF off and resetting the stats and see if that address's any of the issues that you have experienced. Maybe reset the stat's once a month. Not many people cheat on this machine and if they do who cares. I don’t. Getting panzered 64 times a game by someone who shot’s once. Does a /kill and sits there and waits until I come out of the spawn again to do the same thing over and over again so what’s the difference. Would I fair any better with a wall hack. Maybe if the person only has a SMG.
4. Do you have other money making stuff that would use these resources? My friend seems to think so. And after talking to him so do I.
Everyone knows my position on these issues. Probably will think this PM is jaded. Emailed MmmmGood and never got a response. Who am I to him anyway so that’s fine with me.
I do not consider myself a stats whore but the truth is the stat’s on this server is equal to none and besides playing was just as important to me. My hat is off to these guys for doing this in a public setting. I have looked and no one else even comes close. My friend looked at the stats and told me many hours went into writing the scripts. I and my other {IMA} buddies use to review them at work, you know the sucky place we all have to be at, to see our progress against the best of the server and each other. You see I am not very good and I enjoyed seeing my slow progress toward the heavy hitters of this server. You lose all that in a game to game checking /stats.
Was trying to catch up with Keek on ammo dropped, Savant and DietoEasy on med packed dropped and Siren on revives. Can’t count the times a smoke grenade blow up in my face while I tried to block it so I could be on the list with the very best.
Inspired me to try even harder and play as a team player.
I could post the other people I was trying to catch up with but we all know I might run the forum out of resources to if you know what I mean.
That was half the fun of playing. Trying to be on the top ten lists of the many talented people that I have had the privilege to play with. I mean that. You all are so much fun to play with. Even when I get shot up and then stabbed back to the spawn.
I do think we regulars should have a public announcement on what really is the issue and stop all this guessing. Also I wish to thank you for this server although I have to admit that my friends and I have lost a lot of interest in the past few weeks.
{IMA} dsteere
Well not really funny but you all know what I mean.
I was talking to a programmer friend that works in the game industry designing these very games we all love to play and he stated that punk buster as well as FF turned on increases network traffic as well as the processor time of the machines that run the server and web server dramatically.
When he heard of 64 players and all the stuff that goes with it his only comment was is this free and public. Wow these people are real generous. He started to tell me what was necessary to pull this off and you want to what? You are very generous.
My questions to MmmmGood and MAN-AT-ARMS are as follows.
1. Was this a problem a month ago?
2. Are you just tired of supporting this? Which if that is the issue no problem.
3. How about trying punk buster and FF off and resetting the stats and see if that address's any of the issues that you have experienced. Maybe reset the stat's once a month. Not many people cheat on this machine and if they do who cares. I don’t. Getting panzered 64 times a game by someone who shot’s once. Does a /kill and sits there and waits until I come out of the spawn again to do the same thing over and over again so what’s the difference. Would I fair any better with a wall hack. Maybe if the person only has a SMG.
4. Do you have other money making stuff that would use these resources? My friend seems to think so. And after talking to him so do I.
Everyone knows my position on these issues. Probably will think this PM is jaded. Emailed MmmmGood and never got a response. Who am I to him anyway so that’s fine with me.
I do not consider myself a stats whore but the truth is the stat’s on this server is equal to none and besides playing was just as important to me. My hat is off to these guys for doing this in a public setting. I have looked and no one else even comes close. My friend looked at the stats and told me many hours went into writing the scripts. I and my other {IMA} buddies use to review them at work, you know the sucky place we all have to be at, to see our progress against the best of the server and each other. You see I am not very good and I enjoyed seeing my slow progress toward the heavy hitters of this server. You lose all that in a game to game checking /stats.
Was trying to catch up with Keek on ammo dropped, Savant and DietoEasy on med packed dropped and Siren on revives. Can’t count the times a smoke grenade blow up in my face while I tried to block it so I could be on the list with the very best.
Inspired me to try even harder and play as a team player.
I could post the other people I was trying to catch up with but we all know I might run the forum out of resources to if you know what I mean.
That was half the fun of playing. Trying to be on the top ten lists of the many talented people that I have had the privilege to play with. I mean that. You all are so much fun to play with. Even when I get shot up and then stabbed back to the spawn.
I do think we regulars should have a public announcement on what really is the issue and stop all this guessing. Also I wish to thank you for this server although I have to admit that my friends and I have lost a lot of interest in the past few weeks.
{IMA} dsteere
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by <BD>BlItZ=F5= » Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:17 pm
dsteere, I took the time to read all that, and imo I agree 100%. The reason alot of players kept coming back time and time again was for the stats and the social side of the server. Without those the server is nothing. I happen to know atleast 5 people who used to be regulars who have admitted they haven't set foot in ecg24/7 beach in over a month... I do wonder now though, does RTCW have a dying wish? I was there when Tribes went from 6000players online to 12 in total...
by aphid » Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:24 pm
Originally posted by MichoRizo
I WANT MY STATS! thats the whole damn reason i come to ecgn is for the stats and my friends! I know 90 % of the regulars feel the same way if it has come to this than im off to a different hopefully but doubtfully better place! Stats is what made this server so fun and is why i kept coming back now that its gone i see no reason to stay! Well good bye guys im off to server hunt. Maybe ill see you around. Later!
Oh for god's sake, do you always have to be so damn dramatic? You'd think the world was ending.
Anyhow...I don't know if this is true or not but even though this information supposedly came from Man-At-Arms, I'd like to hear it myself first. I doubt it is the truth but if it is, bah.
by MichoRizo » Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:08 pm
Originally posted by aphid
Oh for god's sake, do you always have to be so damn dramatic? You'd think the world was ending.
Anyhow...I don't know if this is true or not but even though this information supposedly came from Man-At-Arms, I'd like to hear it myself first. I doubt it is the truth but if it is, bah.
Well for you information my world is ending! Im dying and trying to make the best out of it! Just found out my cancer has spread the other day and things arent looking good! Not trying to ruin everyones day! But SHIT happens! I just made alot of friends and stuff on the beach and i would like to keep them for as long as im here! Sorry if i take things to extremes! Dont mean to! I love you guys and i love the beach just wish they would quit destroying everything!
{NCY}Starscrea M
"Conquest is made from teh ashes of ones enemy's" "Happines is a sharp Katana....... and a Smooth decapitation."
"Traitors must DIE!"
"Conquest is made from teh ashes of ones enemy's" "Happines is a sharp Katana....... and a Smooth decapitation."
"Traitors must DIE!"
by aphid » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:57 pm
Originally posted by PL_M@ster
Well aphid, I cant give you a proof of that cuz I've delete the message but why would I lied on that? But I can tell you that I would better like it if it wasn't true.
It doesn't mean that you are lying. There could be any number of reasons why he said that. I'm just having a hard time believeing they would take out such a popular feature.
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by MMmmGood » Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:23 am
Originally posted by dsteere
1. Was this a problem a month ago?
2. Are you just tired of supporting this? Which if that is the issue no problem.
3. How about trying punk buster and FF off and resetting the stats and see if that address's any of the issues that you have experienced. Maybe reset the stat's once a month. Not many people cheat on this machine and if they do who cares. I don’t. Getting panzered 64 times a game by someone who shot’s once. Does a /kill and sits there and waits until I come out of the spawn again to do the same thing over and over again so what’s the difference. Would I fair any better with a wall hack. Maybe if the person only has a SMG.
4. Do you have other money making stuff that would use these resources? My friend seems to think so. And after talking to him so do I.
Everyone knows my position on these issues. Probably will think this PM is jaded. Emailed MmmmGood and never got a response. Who am I to him anyway so that’s fine with me.
1. It has been a problem since day1 with the stats.
2. It's not a matter of support, its literally killing the box. If anyone knows anything about linux, we are getting loads of 15 on the stats machine which has nothing else running on it.
3. The stats run on a seperate machine. Resetting them will bring the load down only a little as people load the database while they browse the pages.
4. Nothing else using the box, no. It's not a matter of us putting something else in their place that makes more money, its a matter of not wanting to stress out our components out, especially the critical ones.
Now what Donny ( man-at-arms ) said isnt exactly true. We are trying to find the issue so we can bring them back because we know that all the players enjoy them and it strives them to become better.
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