Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:32 pm
My question, for all of those that point to the bible as the end all of the definition of marriage, why were their marriages before the bible? How could it happen before it was put into place?
The problem is you look at marriage threw your specific beliefs, and pushing that belief onto others. Not everyone believes as you do, and many of them follow the same bible you do. That right there is where freedom ends; when someone takes away another person's freedom.
Oh, I know, the next thing is to bring up far fetched 'next steps.' 'Where does it end? When someone can marry their dog, or maybe 12 of their relatives?'
This is the exact same thing that happened with women's rights, minorities' civil rights, workers rights, etc. There are peopel that think 'old school,' and those that are not hand cuffed by past generations' outdated beliefs.
The problem is you look at marriage threw your specific beliefs, and pushing that belief onto others. Not everyone believes as you do, and many of them follow the same bible you do. That right there is where freedom ends; when someone takes away another person's freedom.
Oh, I know, the next thing is to bring up far fetched 'next steps.' 'Where does it end? When someone can marry their dog, or maybe 12 of their relatives?'
This is the exact same thing that happened with women's rights, minorities' civil rights, workers rights, etc. There are peopel that think 'old school,' and those that are not hand cuffed by past generations' outdated beliefs.
Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:35 pm
Originally posted by Buliwyf
everyone has their own choice and opinion... hence no one should be able to dictate anything as their choice and opinion will be different from yours
you like seltzer water, i hate it. do we ban it? of course not. same concept.
If we could use religion, politics and seltzer water in a coversation, all carrying the same weight, the Middle East would be a place of peace and understanding.
Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:03 pm
I just like to say even though i dont agree with Rule of Wrist, he explains himself very well. If one is going to start an arguement, they should be prepared with a basis.
Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:10 pm
Everyone talks about beliefs. Whether you believe it or not, JESUS is the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE and "no one" comes to the FATHER but through HIM.
Does not your conscience tell you when you do something wrong?
The BIBLE says, that GOD wrote HIS Law on our hearts.
These clergy that were arrested, what were they clergy of? Certainly not the CHURCH. They were clergy of a Religion.
Relegion will send ya straight to hell. All the wars going on now are because of Religion. Relegion is mans attempt to get to GOD. CHRISTianity is GODs attempt to get to man. To redeem man so, that man may have "relationship" with a living GOD.
Flame away, the TRUTH is a Person and HIS name is "JESUS."
Does not your conscience tell you when you do something wrong?
The BIBLE says, that GOD wrote HIS Law on our hearts.
These clergy that were arrested, what were they clergy of? Certainly not the CHURCH. They were clergy of a Religion.
Relegion will send ya straight to hell. All the wars going on now are because of Religion. Relegion is mans attempt to get to GOD. CHRISTianity is GODs attempt to get to man. To redeem man so, that man may have "relationship" with a living GOD.
Flame away, the TRUTH is a Person and HIS name is "JESUS."
Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:14 pm
Originally posted by S.S. N
i dont know man, my dogs are pretty gay.
I was going to say the same exact thing.
-Bagginses
Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:25 pm
Originally posted by GearedUp
Relegion will send ya straight to hell.
what?:confused:
I hope i'm misunderstanding you....because the way i interpereted your post, everyone who believes in religion will go to hell?
Hell exists BECAUSE OF religion. Christianity didn't make hell up, religion did. what you say doen'st really make sense to me
Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:26 pm
Sorry bud, not sure what your saying?
Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:41 pm
Originally posted by GearedUp
Sorry bud, not sure what your saying?
I don't even know what I'm saying
Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:41 pm
LoL!
Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:45 pm
Hey WTF where's my BFV?
Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:56 pm
Originally posted by -HaVoC-
. In my case I want to marry the Damn triplets from Playboy
I vote for this....
Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:14 pm
Originally posted by Ralph Wiggum
People get charged with breaking the law. Maybe New York state will soon "get with the times" but until then, marying two dudes is apparently still a crime in New York. The second part of civil disobediance is taking the punishment.
Right on Ralph. If you don't agree with the law, work to get it changed. Don't just break it an cry to the press and lobby groups.
Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:49 pm
Originally posted by Tommy Boy
I vote for this....
me too!
Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:50 pm
Rule...so what you are saying is that people with a different sexuallity should not be included for marriges?
To me...isn't that what america is all about...
Freedom of expression, speech, petition, etc...
To me...isn't that what america is all about...
Freedom of expression, speech, petition, etc...
Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:09 pm
Originally posted by Pvt. Boisclair
Being oversexed and being homosexual are different...your dog would probably also hump your leg, that doesn't make him homosexual. Now if you have a valid example...I like to hear it.
So a male dog humping another male dog is not a homosexual act? Then, by your definition that same sex anamils having sex is not homosexual sex, no animals besides human have homosexual sex.