Beach needs some changes

[arkaine]

I have no idea how many points a person gets for revives, kills, or touching the docs and like it that way. I found I was more inclined to camp the war room when I first started playing because there was usually back up there and less action. Now I want the action.... ..

I still like the way it was when we had to forgive a TKer. How many TK's does a person have to have to get -20. I saw someone with -14 yesterday and that person had many asking an admin to kick him.

why is it that in other servers when someone tks you ..that message shows you have been tk'd by whoever and you have the option to report it or ignore it ??? why can't we have that...??? I also agree with the no flamer thing...i have learned to accept panzer kills especially when its a 5 person kill cause that teaches you to stay away from large groups... but i do hate that damn flamer that always tks you or that leaves you with 1% health then they shoot you 1time and ur dead...about the doc thing i do think the no points would really help out all the people that just camp wr because they know that its the easiest way to get points and they feel that youre considered a good player based on your points and thats it.....another thing that you guys had talked about was maybe once a week for 2 hours have a little map rotation just to change for a little bit.. someone mentioned something like thursday nites from 8-10pm or something like that....I know that this is the 24/7 beach server...but honestly a little change once in a while wouldnt hurt... i know last time they tried the map rotation thing it didnt work...but i think they only people that really complained were people who play here ocasionally and who i could care less about... anyways just my 2 cents........

Originally posted by SavageParrot
Hmmn do we really need to have flamers? It seems to be only noobs who use flamers, and they always suck so tk's inevitably follow. If we banned the flamer then the beach would be a happy smiling land full of candy and flowers.

Seriously though the problem with tks is that the majority of tks are accidental. The fact that there ar 64 people in a very small map inevitably leads to carnage. Deliberate tkers are easy, but what if the player is just bad? For the most part I try to steer noobs towards being a med or an lt but most of them want the biggest badest weapon they can get and then they can't handle it. I can't imagine any of you would support giving admins the right to choose what class you play so there is not alot anyone can do about them, untill they really get out of control.

I agree with slaughter on getting rid of the points for touching the docs, it might help to whittle down that army of venoms that lives in the war room. I would however go further and either get rid of the point bonus for kills in the war room, or make it so that the bonus worked for the allies as well as the axis thereby giving incentive for the noob flamer to haul ass down to the war room and kill some Nazis. I also thought about a point bonus for allied kills in the radio room, that would be fun.

I've started playing on ECGN recently and taking the flamer away would ruin allot of fun for me. I use it allot and I rarely ever kill myself or TK with it. Of course I hate those pesky medics who can ussually take me out before they are cooked.

Originally posted by arkaine
I have no idea how many points a person gets for revives, kills, or touching the docs and like it that way. I found I was more inclined to camp the war room when I first started playing because there was usually back up there and less action. Now I want the action.... ..

I still like the way it was when we had to forgive a TKer. How many TK's does a person have to have to get -20. I saw someone with -14 yesterday and that person had many asking an admin to kick him.

I got -8 from a guy who jumped infront of me after I announced I was going to shoot my panzer 3 times and ended up instagipping us both when he jumped.

[PL_M@ster]

Originally posted by Slaughter1
I find myself and Keek can say the same thing I'm sure, that I have 4 on 1's and 3 on 1's most of game because the points are soooooo important...

I also see that a lot, but it's my way to get most kills for a round. I fight the guy who I can see is the best in the 3 or 4 ennemies and then finish the others who were shooting at each other trying to touch me lol. If it doesnt happen like that well I die and come back.

I agree about the doc points thing. I remember that when I was a n00b(worst than now) I was always camping the wr cuz it was the only place with the ducts where I had a possibility to get some kills.

I dont agree about no flamers. It's true that it's a n00b tker weapon in most hands, but it's a part of the game, just like the n00b toob wich is even more used and tk me more often.

[FigoJudas]

Substract -1 points for each kill in wr/ducts zone (instead of the actual 6 points) would be a fine form to avoid campers.

If not, leave the points for docs...for the wr cleaners as me is very important that the wr campers like recover docs (for points). After I die in wr with docs, an inopportune nade blows just when 3 pointwhores takes the docs.

I prefer 2 n00b flammers than 5 idiot snipers in beach.

Originally posted by FigoJudas

If not, leave the points for docs...for the wr cleaners as me is very important that the wr campers like recover docs (for points). After I die in wr with docs, an inopportune nade blows just when 3 pointwhores takes the docs.

Oh yeah! I totally agree. That's a great argument for keeping 10 points for returning docs.

You grab docs and get ripped in two by a venom and as you lay there partially dead you watch your primed nade drop to the floor as 3 or 4 point-whore-war-campers run salivating towards docs. Boom! Then you get that sweet message at the top of screen, so and so were gibbed by x's nade. Muwhaaahaahahah ahahahhaha hhahahaha-give me a sec-ahahahahaah hoh ho ho ho heheeheeheh ok im done.

Originally posted by Kingofbeers
I think my biggest complaint is how regulars will ban together against an uber-noobish team... and delightfully torment and just plain pwn them for 25 minutes.

At the end, thump their cyber-chests and congratulate each other on a job well done. I like a good challenge but at some points it just gets to be a little too rediculous.

It's all about fear. Some of the better players don't want to lose to noobs or lesser players so they use /kill to avoid the embarassment or stack the teams so they can own the weaker side. Whereas the noobs don't want to die so they cower in the forward bunker. They seem to forget that they have more than one life and it's not a real death they suffer.

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