Off topic, but don't go too far overboard - after all, we are watching...heh.
Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:07 pm
currently 59 deceits in F9/11
http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm
But here is probably the best point of the whole article
But two wrongs don't make a right, and the right response to Presidential lies is not more lies from his political opponents.....
I've said it before and I'll say it again. There is enough shit going on wrong out there that you don't need to make things up. Moore devalues arguments against Bush by putting out falsehoods and that detracts from all arguments from people of like political beliefs.
I may think Rush Limbaugh is as full of shit as Michael Moore but I'll say this for him. I don't have to pay to hear him lie.
Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:09 pm
Oh I think we can discredit the fat propaganda machine without locking the thread.
Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:25 pm
The only thing that Moore's movie is doing on a large scale, is endangering soldiers in Iraq.
For that, he should have a bullet in his f*cking head!
Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:13 pm
Originally posted by Colonel Ingus currently 59 deceits in F9/11
http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm
But here is probably the best point of the whole article
I've said it before and I'll say it again. There is enough shit going on wrong out there that you don't need to make things up. Moore devalues arguments against Bush by putting out falsehoods and that detracts from all arguments from people of like political beliefs.
I may think Rush Limbaugh is as full fo shit as Michael Moore but I'll say this for him. I don't have to pay to hear him lie.
Ingus, you keep bringing up Rush Limbaugh. I wish you'd at least list in detail how he in any way can be compared to Michael Moore.
Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:38 am
Originally posted by ||ASS||Mortimer
The only thing that Moore's movie is doing on a large scale, is endangering soldiers in Iraq.
For that, he should have a bullet in his f*cking head!
I'd like to buy you a beer, bud.
Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:30 am
Ok, wait, Moore's movie is endangering soldiers in Iraq? What? He gives up no molitary plans for the enemies to see, so how could he possibly be endangering soldiers?
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:37 am
I can't answer that, but I hope Mortimer will. What I can say is that many of the recent kidnappings and murders are at least partially attributable (sp?) to CBS news and Dan Rather's determination to make a huge news story out of Abu Ghraib. The Army was already conducting a full investigation, and the policies there were changed months before CBS started showing the pictures. The abuses were admitted to. There was not a cover up. The Army contacted Rather and asked him not to show all those pictures at that time as it would only serve to endager Coalition soldiers and civilians. Once again, our illustrious Left-wing media let their hatred of the President override their concern for the people who risk their lives every day just by going to work over there. I hope rather is happy with his news scoop...Nick Berg and some others paid a high price for it.
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:46 am
BTW: That's a great sig RC...I love that quote. Here's another good one, from everyone's favorite Brewer/Patriot
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
--Samuel Adams
Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:40 am
Originally posted by JimmyTango
Ok, wait, Moore's movie is endangering soldiers in Iraq? What? He gives up no molitary plans for the enemies to see, so how could he possibly be endangering soldiers?
Did you see the movie??
When the Iraqi's see it (and they will) they will see all of the BS that Moore has compiled within it, and the insurgents will think they have even more of a cause.
Some of the Iraqi people that supported the war will be against the US after seeing that movie.
I will take you up on that beer Sewer!:beer:
Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:03 am
Actually, after seeing 9/11 myself, I felt more confused at Bush and thought of how stupid he is like all the comedians say he is. (Leno, Letterman, Kilbon, O'Brien.)
War in Iraq was unfortunate, I'm more sympathetic to the soldiers who have to fight and die, especially the young ones.
Ex-American president Herbert Hoover once said:
"Older men declare war, but it is the youth that must fight and die."
Nevertheless, these men and women knew what they were signing up for when they joined the army, it's not like they were conscripted. They knew the risks, but I guess, you could argue if the risk here (fighting in Iraq) was worth it...
Personally, I think it was, it's not about the oil like so many activists were saying, (if it was, where the hell's the oil, why are my gas prices still high??) at least in this war, the Iraqi people are one step closer to democracy than they have ever been.
Wishful thinking: I wish they would take out China's communism state next, and then North Korea. Actually, take out all communist states altogether. (China recently announced it will screen text messages in cell phones, it banned cybercafes because one out of 15000 caught fire, so let's just ban everything.)
Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:38 pm
Originally posted by ||ASS||Mortimer
Did you see the movie??
When the Iraqi's see it (and they will) they will see all of the BS that Moore has compiled within it, and the insurgents will think they have even more of a cause.
Some of the Iraqi people that supported the war will be against the US after seeing that movie.
Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:43 pm
Originally posted by Agent-Commando
Wishful thinking: I wish they would take out China's communism state next, and then North Korea. Actually, take out all communist states altogether. (China recently announced it will screen text messages in cell phones, it banned cybercafes because one out of 15000 caught fire, so let's just ban everything.)
What about cuba and vietnam?
Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:48 pm
I don't understand the point of threads like this.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions
why do you feel the need to sway others to your beliefs
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