Linux
Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:21 pm
I'm going to have to use my old PC when I RMA this one, it doesn't meet xp minimum requirements and I don't have my win98 cd anymore sooooooooooo......... linux.
I already had red hat 9 cds so I installed that on my old harddrive.
It runs, but takes 2 or 3 minutes to even open mozzilla and change between tasks, as long as I keep with 1 app at a time runs great.
It's a pentium 1, 133mhz 128MB of edo ram.
Is there anything I can do to reduce loadtimes on it?
I already had red hat 9 cds so I installed that on my old harddrive.
It runs, but takes 2 or 3 minutes to even open mozzilla and change between tasks, as long as I keep with 1 app at a time runs great.
It's a pentium 1, 133mhz 128MB of edo ram.
Is there anything I can do to reduce loadtimes on it?
Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:55 pm
This is stretching the minimum requirements a bit.
Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:56 pm
All the linux documents I read say minimum requirements for linux is well below what I have running it now.
Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:08 am
Depends on what you install. Don't expect a GUI to be blindingly fast with that setup.
I've ran servers on P233s with 256 MB, but they were running a stripped-down Debian 2 and no GUI.
I've ran servers on P233s with 256 MB, but they were running a stripped-down Debian 2 and no GUI.
Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:19 am
I tried running RH9 before on my old computer, was "blindingly" slow and people got mad at me saying I installed it wrong and that it should be running faster than win98. o_o
I had other people tell me that I needed to customize it and turn off the extra things. ANd on linux I"m completly lost without a gui since I don't know anything about it other than the most basic commands.
I had other people tell me that I needed to customize it and turn off the extra things. ANd on linux I"m completly lost without a gui since I don't know anything about it other than the most basic commands.
Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:02 am
Perhaps you installed too many services. Try seeing what's running by typing: ps aux | more
Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:06 am
Only the default ones for the "destop" install. I don't have anouther moniter so I'll try that and get back tommarow.
Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:54 am
Ditch KDE or Gnome (not sure which you're using) in favor of the lightweight desktops --Nextstep or ICE
Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:24 am
Ok chacal I did that thing you told me to do. I think I listed all the services, their on a floppy disk I got. Windows can't make heads or tales of the file, but it can read the disk, I open it with wordpad and it reads it perfectly.
I'm not sure if I copy/paste everything from the terminal because it ends with more but I think I got the vast majority even if I didn't.
Should I just cut/paste it into this window? Or send you the file or what?
I'm not sure if I copy/paste everything from the terminal because it ends with more but I think I got the vast majority even if I didn't.
Should I just cut/paste it into this window? Or send you the file or what?
Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:26 am
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
root 1 1.2 0.0 1308 68 ? S 04:52 0:04 init
root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [keventd]
root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SWN 04:52 0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
root 8 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [bdflush]
root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [kswapd]
root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [kscand/DMA]
root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [kscand/Normal]
root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [kscand/HighMem]
root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [kupdated]
root 10 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [mdrecoveryd]
root 14 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [kjournald]
root 622 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [kjournald]
root 847 0.0 0.0 1372 44 ? S 04:53 0:00 syslogd -m 0
root 851 0.0 0.0 1300 0 ? SW 04:53 0:00 klogd -x
rpc 870 0.0 0.0 1456 0 ? SW 04:53 0:00 [portmap]
rpcuser 889 0.0 0.0 1444 0 ? SW 04:53 0:00 [rpc.statd]
root 985 3.3 0.7 3432 896 ? S 04:53 0:09 /usr/sbin/sshd
root 999 0.0 0.1 1928 252 ? S 04:53 0:00 xinetd -stayalive
-reuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid
root 1019 0.0 1.5 6116 1908 ? S 04:53 0:00 [sendmail]
smmsp 1028 0.0 1.2 5912 1560 ? S 04:53 0:00 [sendmail]
root 1038 0.0 0.0 1336 116 ttyS0 S 04:53 0:00 gpm -t ms -m /dev/mouse
root 1047 0.0 0.1 1344 144 ? S 04:53 0:00 crond
root 1058 0.0 1.1 7420 1432 ? S 04:53 0:00 cupsd
xfs 1137 0.3 2.2 4628 2784 ? S 04:53 0:00 [xfs]
root 1146 0.0 0.0 1328 104 ? SN 04:53 0:00 anacron -s
daemon 1155 0.0 0.0 1336 76 ? S 04:53 0:00 [atd]
root 1163 0.0 0.0 1280 60 tty1 S 04:53 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty1
root 1164 0.0 0.0 1280 60 tty2 S 04:53 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty2
root 1165 0.0 0.0 1280 60 tty3 S 04:53 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3
root 1166 0.0 0.0 1280 60 tty4 S 04:53 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty4
root 1167 0.0 0.0 1280 60 tty5 S 04:53 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty5
root 1168 0.0 0.0 1280 60 tty6 S 04:53 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty6
root 1169 0.3 2.0 14312 2536 ? S 04:53 0:00 [gdm-binary]
root 1212 1.7 2.4 15072 3120 ? S 04:53 0:04 [gdm-binary]
root 1213 7.6 10.7 97808 13532 ? S 04:53 0:18 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -auth /var/gdm/:0.Xauth vt7
500 1225 4.0 6.8 18688 8652 ? S 04:55 0:05 /usr/bin/gnome-session
500 1268 0.0 0.5 3064 652 ? S 04:55 0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients
500 1273 5.7 5.3 11352 6812 ? S 04:55 0:07 /usr/libexec/gconfd-2 11
500 1275 1.7 1.4 6320 1804 ? S 04:55 0:02 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate --ior-output-fd=16
500 1277 1.9 4.6 17348 5896 ? S 04:55 0:02 gnome-settings-daemon --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_SettingsDaemon --oaf-ior-fd=14
500 1282 0.2 0.6 2540 852 ? S 04:55 0:00 [fam]
500 1287 1.3 1.0 3500 1292 ? S 04:55 0:01 xscreensaver -nosplash
500 1290 3.3 5.0 12928 6432 ? S 04:56 0:03 /usr/bin/metacity --sm-client-id=default1
500 1294 16.5 9.9 21568 12584 ? S 04:56 0:17 gnome-panel --sm-client-id default2
500 1296 15.4 11.9 31868 15076 ? S 04:56 0:16 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
500 1298 1.1 4.3 16432 5448 ? S 04:56 0:01 magicdev --sm-client-id default4
500 1301 1.5 5.1 16820 6512 ? S 04:56 0:01 eggcups --sm-client-id default6
500 1303 0.5 3.0 11508 3824 ? S 04:56 0:00 pam-panel-icon --sm-client-id default0
500 1305 8.2 9.7 24420 12380 ? S 04:56 0:08 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/rhn-applet-gui --sm-client-id default5
root 1306 0.0 0.1 1328 156 ? S 04:56 0:00 [pam_timestamp_c]
500 1312 2.3 4.9 17044 6232 ? S 04:56 0:01 /usr/libexec/notification-area-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_NotificationAreaApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=20
500 1314 14.3 7.3 20000 9264 ? S 04:57 0:05 gnome-terminal
500 1315 0.1 0.4 1776 568 ? S 04:57 0:00 [gnome-pty-helpe]
500 1316 2.3 1.0 4236 1384 pts/0 S 04:57 0:00 bash
500 1345 0.0 0.5 2572 700 pts/0 R 04:57 0:00 ps aux
500 1346 0.0 0.3 3376 464 pts/0 S 04:57 0:00 more
root 1 1.2 0.0 1308 68 ? S 04:52 0:04 init
root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [keventd]
root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SWN 04:52 0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
root 8 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [bdflush]
root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [kswapd]
root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [kscand/DMA]
root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [kscand/Normal]
root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [kscand/HighMem]
root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [kupdated]
root 10 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [mdrecoveryd]
root 14 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [kjournald]
root 622 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 04:52 0:00 [kjournald]
root 847 0.0 0.0 1372 44 ? S 04:53 0:00 syslogd -m 0
root 851 0.0 0.0 1300 0 ? SW 04:53 0:00 klogd -x
rpc 870 0.0 0.0 1456 0 ? SW 04:53 0:00 [portmap]
rpcuser 889 0.0 0.0 1444 0 ? SW 04:53 0:00 [rpc.statd]
root 985 3.3 0.7 3432 896 ? S 04:53 0:09 /usr/sbin/sshd
root 999 0.0 0.1 1928 252 ? S 04:53 0:00 xinetd -stayalive
-reuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid
root 1019 0.0 1.5 6116 1908 ? S 04:53 0:00 [sendmail]
smmsp 1028 0.0 1.2 5912 1560 ? S 04:53 0:00 [sendmail]
root 1038 0.0 0.0 1336 116 ttyS0 S 04:53 0:00 gpm -t ms -m /dev/mouse
root 1047 0.0 0.1 1344 144 ? S 04:53 0:00 crond
root 1058 0.0 1.1 7420 1432 ? S 04:53 0:00 cupsd
xfs 1137 0.3 2.2 4628 2784 ? S 04:53 0:00 [xfs]
root 1146 0.0 0.0 1328 104 ? SN 04:53 0:00 anacron -s
daemon 1155 0.0 0.0 1336 76 ? S 04:53 0:00 [atd]
root 1163 0.0 0.0 1280 60 tty1 S 04:53 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty1
root 1164 0.0 0.0 1280 60 tty2 S 04:53 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty2
root 1165 0.0 0.0 1280 60 tty3 S 04:53 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3
root 1166 0.0 0.0 1280 60 tty4 S 04:53 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty4
root 1167 0.0 0.0 1280 60 tty5 S 04:53 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty5
root 1168 0.0 0.0 1280 60 tty6 S 04:53 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty6
root 1169 0.3 2.0 14312 2536 ? S 04:53 0:00 [gdm-binary]
root 1212 1.7 2.4 15072 3120 ? S 04:53 0:04 [gdm-binary]
root 1213 7.6 10.7 97808 13532 ? S 04:53 0:18 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -auth /var/gdm/:0.Xauth vt7
500 1225 4.0 6.8 18688 8652 ? S 04:55 0:05 /usr/bin/gnome-session
500 1268 0.0 0.5 3064 652 ? S 04:55 0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients
500 1273 5.7 5.3 11352 6812 ? S 04:55 0:07 /usr/libexec/gconfd-2 11
500 1275 1.7 1.4 6320 1804 ? S 04:55 0:02 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate --ior-output-fd=16
500 1277 1.9 4.6 17348 5896 ? S 04:55 0:02 gnome-settings-daemon --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_SettingsDaemon --oaf-ior-fd=14
500 1282 0.2 0.6 2540 852 ? S 04:55 0:00 [fam]
500 1287 1.3 1.0 3500 1292 ? S 04:55 0:01 xscreensaver -nosplash
500 1290 3.3 5.0 12928 6432 ? S 04:56 0:03 /usr/bin/metacity --sm-client-id=default1
500 1294 16.5 9.9 21568 12584 ? S 04:56 0:17 gnome-panel --sm-client-id default2
500 1296 15.4 11.9 31868 15076 ? S 04:56 0:16 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
500 1298 1.1 4.3 16432 5448 ? S 04:56 0:01 magicdev --sm-client-id default4
500 1301 1.5 5.1 16820 6512 ? S 04:56 0:01 eggcups --sm-client-id default6
500 1303 0.5 3.0 11508 3824 ? S 04:56 0:00 pam-panel-icon --sm-client-id default0
500 1305 8.2 9.7 24420 12380 ? S 04:56 0:08 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/rhn-applet-gui --sm-client-id default5
root 1306 0.0 0.1 1328 156 ? S 04:56 0:00 [pam_timestamp_c]
500 1312 2.3 4.9 17044 6232 ? S 04:56 0:01 /usr/libexec/notification-area-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_NotificationAreaApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=20
500 1314 14.3 7.3 20000 9264 ? S 04:57 0:05 gnome-terminal
500 1315 0.1 0.4 1776 568 ? S 04:57 0:00 [gnome-pty-helpe]
500 1316 2.3 1.0 4236 1384 pts/0 S 04:57 0:00 bash
500 1345 0.0 0.5 2572 700 pts/0 R 04:57 0:00 ps aux
500 1346 0.0 0.3 3376 464 pts/0 S 04:57 0:00 more
Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:30 am
I have to say it looks allot better with gedit and wordpad's auto formatting, easier to read also. O_O
Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:49 pm
*pokes chacal with a stick* Come on, how do I turn some of those off?
Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:54 pm
Seems your Gnome GUI takes around 50% of your CPU. That's the price you pay for having a GUI. Granted, web surfing is much less fun without one 
Nautilus is a nice file manager (like Windows Explorer), but you're paying an extra 15% for it.
Why do you have sendmail running? Even if it's using 0% CPU at the time this snapshot was taken, it still seems weird to have it there. Could be normal with Red Hat, though. Are you doing any non-web-based mail on that box? Are your running a mail server?
Same goes with sshd. If you're not running a ssh server, no need for that. Are you remote-controlling this box from outside?
Process names inside brackets mean these processes are swapped out to disk. This probably means not enough RAM.
As for turning them off, there should be a configuration menu in your GUI. Running no GUI, I'd type "killall sshd" and "killall sendmail".
Nautilus is a nice file manager (like Windows Explorer), but you're paying an extra 15% for it.
Why do you have sendmail running? Even if it's using 0% CPU at the time this snapshot was taken, it still seems weird to have it there. Could be normal with Red Hat, though. Are you doing any non-web-based mail on that box? Are your running a mail server?
Same goes with sshd. If you're not running a ssh server, no need for that. Are you remote-controlling this box from outside?
Process names inside brackets mean these processes are swapped out to disk. This probably means not enough RAM.
As for turning them off, there should be a configuration menu in your GUI. Running no GUI, I'd type "killall sshd" and "killall sendmail".
Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:58 pm
I'm not remote controling the box, Like I said only things that installed it with the default desktop install are running. I'm not running a mail server, and I don't use any email type things. ATM I don't have a network card in it, but I'll pick up a cheap one from circut city before I RMA my board.
ANd will I have to do killall everytime I bootup?
Is there a way to disable nautilus? Or do I have to have it to run a gui?
ANd will I have to do killall everytime I bootup?
Is there a way to disable nautilus? Or do I have to have it to run a gui?
Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:07 am
Also, could I bootup to terminal interface by selecting "failsafe"?
The options are
default
last used
gnome
kde
failsafe
The options are
default
last used
gnome
kde
failsafe