S is for Spam, and Spam is for Me?

by **Slaughter1** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:21 pm

lol, umm yeah my presents are not as much as I used to use em, bubba has talked to me about it in /m, and they are alot less!!!!! so all you no job mofos go f off

thank you
management

by **DocTrebor** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:28 pm

Originally posted by Slaughter1
lol, umm yeah my presents are not as much as I used to use em, bubba has talked to me about it in /m, and they are alot less!!!!! so all you no job mofos go f off

thank you
management

i like your presents! but can i havea a receipt with them, because sometimes id like to return them.

by **PL_M@ster** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:33 pm

Originally posted by Keekanoo
PL M@ster....the reason spamming doesn't bother you is because we try to limit it. It's a fine line between letting everyone vent and have a good time and putting a !mute on someone when it goes to far, or, if needs be a kick or more.

People saying over and over again things like "The enemy is weakened" with no reason getting mute is perfect and I thank you for that. :cool:

by **Killer Mike** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:34 pm

Originally posted by Keekanoo

Frankly I don't really care if someone spams a message out every once and a while.... like if they kill someone in a difficult fight then say 'you were killed by the best...' etc, etc. That's fine. Not a big deal. No one to my knowledge has ever been jumped on immediately for that. It's when it adds up over time. Things like 'You were killed by the Mike..... I hope you got the memo, did you get the memo?'

Keek, if you would actually watch the demo...the only bind I have is......"I shank edogg for breakfast (when me and edogg shank it out...I normally cheat:) ) and

The Memo hates youa nd your lame jokes.

"IT looks like you got the Memo." NOTHING ELSE. Quit making up lies.

And for the record...I never disconnected then rejoined under a different name. I saw Savant use his awesome banning skills and type !Ban memo 535 . Well, my name had been KillerMik3 for 5 minutes or so...so obviously....I couldn't have been spamming for that period..or else he woudl have gotten my name right. Then, I go on my knifing spree near the very end and get keekanoo when he's afk...well...Scrolling up and finding what my alias is...

by **Killer Mike** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:04 pm

And on behalf of raising my post count, starting a new post for this demo.

http://codstrats.pcloadletterwtf.com/demos/beach6.dm_60
*will be finished uploading by 10:10

I admit, I left salute on when i got to the lower bunker. But I took pauses to turn it off everytime and then back on when I wanted to jump again.

This is me before I reconnected to the server. I was muted during this demo...

by **MiliTant** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:18 pm

rofl this is ridiculous.take ff off just for the fact that most the people tk anyway even if its not blatant...disable FF like it used to be so the noobs can shoot a faust in the war room with 5 team mates around them...and /kill cant/wont/shouldnt be a kickable offense cuz of low score...punkbuster has its limit of how low the player can go...ive seen ppl kicked quite a few times for /kill and i think its pathetic.

by **aphid** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:03 pm

Originally posted by SavageParrot
Remember this I especially liked the bit in this thread where aphid and woot attacked the favouritism towards killermik3 and criticised the way he never got more than a slap on the wrist. But then hey it's only admins who need to be consistent in their approach right?....Right?

I don't know Killermike in the least and I am not defending him. I have given no indication of defending him either. Hell, I have not even watched his demo. So yes, there is/was still favortism. He has gotten numerous chances to behave on the server. Way more chances than other people have gotten. I am not going to comment on this ban because I really don't want to watch a 20 minute long demo. It was a nice try trying to catch me though, Parrot.

Anyways, if anyone believes I block doorways or the backstairs, you are a bloody fool. Having said that, let me refresh Doctrebor's memory as to what he did one day.

I had the documents and was running up the backstairs. I got to the "U" section right before the backstairs and kneeled almost in the corner. I was doing this to restore my sprint and to let my teammates take some shots and hopefully make some kills so I could run the documents in. Then here comes Doctrebor from behind me. He shoves me once. I didn't take notice to that. He then shoved me again, almost putting me right in front of the door to get shot at. I got up and moved back. He then shoved me again. I looked if there was any admins on and there was not. So I got up and shot him a few times to get him to stop. Then Doctrebor does something he denied in that other thread and threatened to ban me. Making it seem like he had admin powers. I said something about turning off auto push and I can't remember what happened after that. I ended up dying by the door because in the time it took for me to actually get my sprint back and look for an admin, a panzer had spawned and got me.

Doesn't it suck when someone is playing as a different name and you think it is just some random person on the server, Doctrebor?

by **Savant** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:40 pm

Originally posted by MiliTant
rofl this is ridiculous.take ff off just for the fact that most the people tk anyway even if its not blatant...disable FF like it used to be so the noobs can shoot a faust in the war room with 5 team mates around them...and /kill cant/wont/shouldnt be a kickable offense cuz of low score...punkbuster has its limit of how low the player can go...ive seen ppl kicked quite a few times for /kill and i think its pathetic.

Who was doing the kicking for /kill?

by **DocTrebor** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:44 pm

Originally posted by aphid
Anyways, if anyone believes I block doorways or the backstairs, you are a bloody fool. Having said that, let me refresh Doctrebor's memory as to what he did one day.

I had the documents and was running up the backstairs. I got to the "U" section right before the backstairs and kneeled almost in the corner. I was doing this to restore my sprint and to let my teammates take some shots and hopefully make some kills so I could run the documents in. Then here comes Doctrebor from behind me. He shoves me once. I didn't take notice to that. He then shoved me again, almost putting me right in front of the door to get shot at. I got up and moved back. He then shoved me again. I looked if there was any admins on and there was not. So I got up and shot him a few times to get him to stop. Then Doctrebor does something he denied in that other thread and threatened to ban me. Making it seem like he had admin powers. I said something about turning off auto push and I can't remember what happened after that. I ended up dying by the door because in the time it took for me to actually get my sprint back and look for an admin, a panzer had spawned and got me.

Doesn't it suck when someone is playing as a different name and you think it is just some random person on the server, Doctrebor?

Yep, still don't recall that. And even so, in your story you bled me, alias or not. With that in mind I can definately picture myself saying something along the lines of:

"If you bleed me again I'll have you banned" or "Bleeding is only gonna leave you banned from the server" or "wtf are you doing shooting your team?" or something along those genral lines. So even before you could make up some twisted story about how I use autopush to send you flying into fire you'd be getting your own lil punishment :lol:

And as for your lil story, you say you were crouching correct? I tell you what...go try using a binded salute on someone who is crouching and see what happens. (they dont really move

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It intrigues me how all of you can recall such events with such dire certainty when they seem to weigh in your favor....oh might i add you forgot how i spammed teh server every 5 minutes with !admintest...from the great militant (:P) /uninstall life

by **Killer Mike** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:51 pm

Originally posted by Savant
Who was doing the kicking for /kill?

Low negative score......

by **beowulf** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:45 am

This demo is fucking awesome....

It will be known as WOlf's version of the Zapruder Film (JFK Assassination) carefully studied for every spam or TK.

Got to side withe Mik3 on this one. It seems to me he was already walking a tight rope with Sav and Keek.

What I first notice is how all axis campin save for Mik3 and Baltar (in Mik3's team overlay). Salute Mik3 for defending upperbase!

However, when we come to the spawn spam, Mik3 has his bound globally. Right after he does it, Trash on opposite team comments on it. Then dumb ass Santa Klaus says some shit too.....severly overreacting to it. Slaughter then does his "Present" bind to not be outdone

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But Klaus keeps hounding at it, overexagerating the whole thing.

Mik3's name was killermik3 the whole game...admins should have known....Sav was TKed and Keek killed a couple of times...

Then we come to another "Memo" bind, place erupts again from only a couple of people and made to be worse than what actually is.....then Keek and Mik3 have some words about the server, BUT Keek also shows restraint with the ":)" at the end of his....

The "/hitsound hypocrite" was very choice, very lucky getting away with that one...

Then the 1st try of banning mik3 is great....Keek type's his alias (Memo) so it dont do shit

Then Sav tries typing "mike" and it still dont do shit....lmfao this is when Mik3 /name changes!

However, Slaughter and Treb DID stick up for Mik3 saying things like "Thats not spamming" as well as Star....

But we KNOW why....They dont want to lose THEIR spammin priviledges!!!! LMFAO

Klaus keeps bitchin every time he sees it though, he should be the last person to talk with his stupid "You get a coal for xMas or something" he had a couple...always spammin (not necessarily in this demo)

Look, I HATE class binds cause I could give a shit what you spawn as.....and I cant stand kill binds such as Slaughter and especially Trebor's

Only 177t's (spelling ^wo0t) should have the right to kill bind cause they pwn...lol

@ Mik3...rofl the STANDING knife gib on edogg was epic!

Back to the point, if mik3 was on that short of a leash in the first place where a person can talk shit, and get someone else banned, he should already be banned in the first place, you know what I mean. It wouldn't be even worth it to me to play if i knew that if I said something wrong I would be banned. (As in mik3's situation)

I also know what keek and Sav are talking about when they bring up his past......My point exactly! You guys gotta forgive (not necessarily forget) after one pays his due after he's been banned....server spammin shouldn't be tolerated, however

....mik3 said he didnt know though when he did this

But after a ban, a player should be given some slack as others with their play...you know, they did their time type of thing...

I love you all out there (fuck Klaus) so if I brought up your name it wasnt meant as a punk. Okay, it was

In Keeks defense not 1 sided with mik3, about a week ago i was specin mik3 (fucker owns!) and he's fraggin people by murder hole and Vaccine was in there flamin and tking and team gibbin etc, mik3 tells keek globally a couple times, keek globally warns Vaccine.....well another person complains, keek goes into spec mode! (i think) Again Vaccine flamin away and keek ban 9999's his ass...he DID a great job and helped out Mik3

If a class bind (albeit global) can get you banned....wtf?

beowulf

by **King** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:18 am

Originally posted by PL_M@ster
I agree, and stopping ppl using a spawn script is not a good idea, especially that not a lot of ppl use it, and it's rare to see someone changing class every time he dies. Never seen ppl spamming their classes, and anyway, it's what teamchat was made for, informing the team. Why stopping the teamchat from being what teamchat is for?

Exactly, since all those stories about people getting banned, I'm always a little afraid to do something I didnt know that was a kickable offence. Even though I'm a reg there's probably some rules I dont know.

You're totally right.

Yep. They are reasonnable people and if you have some problems with them a PM mostly solve it, well a lot more than starting a thread about admin abuse like many others did.

LoL we know PL_master is a yes man :lol:

by **Lord ZOG** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:13 am

I get the impression from all reading all this that rule #1 on Beach ECGN should be "Be prepared to not have much fun."

Seriously, you guys have rules about when to use +salute?? Trebor shoving an engy off his dyno is not a rules infraction, it's quick thinking and smart.

I suppose shoving an enemy off the upper base or netting is bad too? I used to do that when the opportunity presented itself a.) because I saved ammo and b.) because I thought it was funny and effective. I suppose I'd be banned for that now.

I see egos and power trips have indeed changed what used to be a simple game.

by **FigoJudas** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:45 am

Originally posted by =DocTrebor=
And as for your lil story, you say you were crouching correct? I tell you what...go try using a binded salute on someone who is crouching and see what happens. (they dont really move )

Are you playing the same RTCW than me?

Originally posted by ^wo0t
You have been around long enough to know the rules of the server. Since you are a reg, I vote for a temp ban, if not full. This is blatant abuse of /+salute along with the history of idle threats, and spamming by using !admintest/!listplayers (we even saw one in the demo rofl). And then you come here and brag about it...and don't think you'll get banned because you are the admins jr assistant.

And don´t forget his !cancelvote....as KillerMike, he starts to have a big HISTORY (spamming, +salute abuse), should be banned next time?

Originally posted by Savant
You still dont get the HISTORY part of the problem though

Yeah! everyone has his HISTORY, me, for example, since long time ago I was considered a Crashserver, and a +salute abuser I dunno why, I still remember those days that some admins (atleast 3) pursued me trying to caught me using +salute (lol, changing as spectator and specting me when just I jumped the wall). And now I´m a liar and for say stupidities and lies better I must speak spanish (I.E: I must stfu). Lol, awesome...as someone said:

Originally posted by *******
... you can disagree,thats why we have a forum.

Originally posted by Siren
I have to disagree with you.... I dont think the demo thing is smart at all for any party involved. Then you have people spamming forums of selectively cut demos that glorify them and display a few minutes or so of an issue that goes deeper into a not-so-selective environment. People banned for Tking will have demos of a few minutes of them not tking...etc...and by that logic... does this mean that if a person that is banned for racial slurring produces a 2min, hour, whatever demo of them not doing it it is to be assumed it wasn't done? Come on, man.

And admins sure dont need to go through the bother of making demos to prove whatever to whoever disagrees with them... that is the purpose of these forums.... to see what the majority believes/feels/sees/experiences.

I´ve seen it´s the only one defense a player has. I only see that when the players do an error (or has a bad day), the players pay. When an admin does an error (or has a bad day), the players pay.

And respect of majority believes/feels/sees/experiences...I think we (the players) didn´t had opinion in some of the rules, the most clear, +salute thread. The admins decided what was the rule (admins than don´t know you can do leanjumps only with +salute bound, or just don´t know that jump the wall with it is allowed, or admins that set us an example of forget turn it off). Some admins punish/pursue/accuse players for that rule, when there are admins that don´t know it (and they infringe it).

Originally posted by PL_M@ster
Exactly, since all those stories about people getting banned, I'm always a little AFRAID to do something I didnt know that was a kickable offence. Even though I'm a reg there's probably some rules I dont know.

Touché!

Originally posted by FigoJudas
There are a lot wolfplayers would remember .... "I was kicked from my first server cos I didn´t know that rule ....

I think Pl_M@ster isn´t a wolfplayer.

and...Lord Zog, chapeau!

by **DocTrebor** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:10 am

The Great Lord Zog Said I'm Smart!!!

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