Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:13 pm
she calls him a racist. what a stupid bitch.
Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:23 pm
The cop did the right thing. That web page lists the other actions he could have taken, and why he didn't. His alternatives: crawl in and wrestle with her--bad idea, they haven't searched her yet. Hit her with baton--seem less dramatic than taser, but baton strikes more prone to injure the woman.
Wait for her? She wasn't *ever* going to get out of that vehicle. She was going to wait for her BF/Husband to arrive and make the cops deal with him, and who knows what a ball of wax that would have been. I agree many cops are heavy handed, but we can't have a society where people say 'F*** you to the cops and refuse to follow those instructions. If she got away with it, tomorrow we would all be doing it. As far as I'm concerned, he did that woman a favor. She's 22 years old and has the mentality of a petulant six year old. Perhaps repeated electrical shock 'therapy' will teach her to obey the police.
Wait for her? She wasn't *ever* going to get out of that vehicle. She was going to wait for her BF/Husband to arrive and make the cops deal with him, and who knows what a ball of wax that would have been. I agree many cops are heavy handed, but we can't have a society where people say 'F*** you to the cops and refuse to follow those instructions. If she got away with it, tomorrow we would all be doing it. As far as I'm concerned, he did that woman a favor. She's 22 years old and has the mentality of a petulant six year old. Perhaps repeated electrical shock 'therapy' will teach her to obey the police.
Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:13 pm
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Then tell me they shouldn't be over careful.
One of those numbers is my uncle, during a traffic stop.
SS? Not all, but I know I wish one who had been in his case.
Side note: the guy who killed my Uncle, he only got five years because my uncle failed to radio the dispatch office what he pulled the car over for before he was shot to death. btw. the man was wanted for robbing a fuel station in another state, for that he got five to ten years because he used... a knife.
all I have to say.
Then tell me they shouldn't be over careful.
One of those numbers is my uncle, during a traffic stop.
SS? Not all, but I know I wish one who had been in his case.
Side note: the guy who killed my Uncle, he only got five years because my uncle failed to radio the dispatch office what he pulled the car over for before he was shot to death. btw. the man was wanted for robbing a fuel station in another state, for that he got five to ten years because he used... a knife.
all I have to say.
Sun Jun 05, 2005 3:45 pm
That's why traffic stops are so dangerous. If the person has a reason to run, then look at the situation. They're sitting in a car, ready to go. All they have do is kill or disable the cop. That's a whole lot of temptation if you are a person who is wanted for a crime and you know that you are going to jail for a long time.
Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:17 pm
After he tazed her he told her to put her hands behind her back.. her hystarical reply was "I can't", he repeats, she repeats, he F*'n tazes her again? That was not called for. When your tazed.. you may not beable to comply.. there were 2 of them.. she's on the ground like a fish.. you mean to tell me that 2nd big cop could not get her handsso she can be cuffed? Lame...
Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:00 pm
anybody who doesn't listen to a cop after he tells something to them several times get what they deserve. Not like 82 shots fired at them but if they need to get tased/stunned then so be it. Let it be a lesson for those assholes so they can go tell their friends to f-ing listen anytime a cop tells them to do something.
Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:37 pm
Originally posted by Lunitic Fringe
After he tazed her he told her to put her hands behind her back.. her hystarical reply was "I can't", he repeats, she repeats, he F*'n tazes her again? That was not called for. When your tazed.. you may not beable to comply.. there were 2 of them.. she's on the ground like a fish.. you mean to tell me that 2nd big cop could not get her handsso she can be cuffed? Lame...
After she got tased the second time, she stopped resisting and did what they told her to do.
Watch the clip before the tasering, she was causing problems right off the bat.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video2a.html
Cop pulled her over for speeding (51 in a 35), broken windshield, no seatbelt, and a tailight out. She tries to tell him that he can't pull her over, that he's not allowed to use his radar while he's driving, and that he's racist. She starts complaining that they've arrested all her brothers etc. Then he finds out that she's driving on a suspended license on top of it all. That's when he asks her to step out of the vehicle.
With everything she said and her attitude I would consider her a high risk to pull out a weapon. When she was on the ground and refusing to put her hands behind her back, the cops did the right thing tasering her again. The are not required to get down and wrestle with people unless they have too.
Tasering was the better option than having one or two full size men jump on her physically and open themselves up to a much worse accusation of police brutality. The camera can't show how much force they are using, how hard they would be twisting her arms, etc. Besides, she *did* stop fighting with them once they tasered her a second time.
Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:25 pm
no doubt, shut the hell up, my bro is in training and he got pepper sprayed, tazered and something else, he said pepper spray is the worst.
Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:29 pm
Bubba pepper-sprayed me when i showed up to take his daughter out. I offered him a bud and he flipped out. Coors makes you crazy.
Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:14 pm
She was the master of her own fate.
#1 Suspended license (um duh, shouldnt have been on the road to begin with)
#2 speeding
#3 Refusing to comply (i fail to comprehend why people think they have the right to argue with anyone in Law enforcement like that... do they really expect to win?)
Oh gee, if i yell at the man with a badge and the "drawn measure of force" while i talk to my "husband"... He will just go way. She didn't call 911 to complain about the stop, she called some unknown individual, told them where she was so this person could do what? bring a hand grenade and a Beretta?
I've been pulled over plenty of times in my more youthful years.
#1 Show the man the respect the postion desires.
#2 Come clean (dont waste their time or inteligence with BS, unless you got a story thats gonna make him crack a smile)
#3 Alittle humitly goes a long way. He's the man, it his traffic stop, your the ahole. That is the way the universe works during the time the disco lights come on and they pull up behind you, Simple as that.
Best line i learned was after my first and only "speeding" ticket back in '90. "Officer, any leaneance you can offer would be greatly appreciated" Since, I've been pulled over for doing 105mph on a 75mph 2 lane road in texas (Texas Ranger and that was after i let off the gas thinking that looks like a cop car up ahead) I saw him try to pull a U-turn since he was going in the other direction, I found a nice spot for him, pulled over and waited at the back of my car. He almost blew past, i dont think he thought anyone would try and stop being that guilty. We exchanged niceties, and i was on my way with a verbal warning. No name droping, no PBA crap, and not even an inspection of the car.
#1 Suspended license (um duh, shouldnt have been on the road to begin with)
#2 speeding
#3 Refusing to comply (i fail to comprehend why people think they have the right to argue with anyone in Law enforcement like that... do they really expect to win?)
Oh gee, if i yell at the man with a badge and the "drawn measure of force" while i talk to my "husband"... He will just go way. She didn't call 911 to complain about the stop, she called some unknown individual, told them where she was so this person could do what? bring a hand grenade and a Beretta?
I've been pulled over plenty of times in my more youthful years.
#1 Show the man the respect the postion desires.
#2 Come clean (dont waste their time or inteligence with BS, unless you got a story thats gonna make him crack a smile)
#3 Alittle humitly goes a long way. He's the man, it his traffic stop, your the ahole. That is the way the universe works during the time the disco lights come on and they pull up behind you, Simple as that.
Best line i learned was after my first and only "speeding" ticket back in '90. "Officer, any leaneance you can offer would be greatly appreciated" Since, I've been pulled over for doing 105mph on a 75mph 2 lane road in texas (Texas Ranger and that was after i let off the gas thinking that looks like a cop car up ahead) I saw him try to pull a U-turn since he was going in the other direction, I found a nice spot for him, pulled over and waited at the back of my car. He almost blew past, i dont think he thought anyone would try and stop being that guilty. We exchanged niceties, and i was on my way with a verbal warning. No name droping, no PBA crap, and not even an inspection of the car.
Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:39 pm
lol.. that's funny.
I'm in vacation in TX now and just got pulled over yesterday for speeding.
(85 mph in a 70 mph zone).
I pulled over right after I saw him pull out afer me. I was as humble and nice as could be. I was in a rental car and left all the paperwork at home (DUH)...
anywey.. we made nicities and he gave me a warning.. no ticket.. nothing.
I agree with everything Meathead said.. be humble and respectful.. that will go a long way with the police... I should know, I've had number of tickets in my life, but probably got out of 75%+.
I'm in vacation in TX now and just got pulled over yesterday for speeding.
(85 mph in a 70 mph zone).
I pulled over right after I saw him pull out afer me. I was as humble and nice as could be. I was in a rental car and left all the paperwork at home (DUH)...
anywey.. we made nicities and he gave me a warning.. no ticket.. nothing.
I agree with everything Meathead said.. be humble and respectful.. that will go a long way with the police... I should know, I've had number of tickets in my life, but probably got out of 75%+.
Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:49 pm
Even if you don't get out of the ticket, being respectful and business-like will make the whole traffic stop incident take less time and be a lot less stressful. If you feel like you want to contest the ticket, thats what court is for. Whether or not you think you can win in court, don't bother arguing it with cop.
Just treat is like a surgical procedure: a cash-ectomy, to remove the unsightly bulge in your wallet area.
Just treat is like a surgical procedure: a cash-ectomy, to remove the unsightly bulge in your wallet area.
Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:00 pm
It made a lot more sense tasering her with the extra clip before...
Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:21 pm
I once got a Ticket down the shore on the strip, i was doing 35, didnt realize it was 25... Pulled right over underneath a 25mph sign... I must have traveled this a hundred times... I even waved at him as i drove by thinking... ahah im doing the speed limit... OOOops was i wrong.
Any way i get stoped, same approach. I had these new Grass mats that were still green... smelled like my car was full of dope. My bud and i were going to catch some waves on our sponges. So everything looked like a couple of Dopers.
Dude lets me off after i pop the hatch and sends me on my way... 2 months later i get a Failure to appear notice. Apparently He spared me the speeding ticket but hit me with a seatbelt. That would have been fine and dandy... no complaints. But he never presented me a ticket. So now i had a double fine and court costs when i could have mailed in a 50 dollar ticket. 50 bucks in college is like the world, let alone $120. So i call the Clerk to find out how to handle this, they advise me not to go infront of the judge with that story and just pay the fine in person. As i rightfully did. Still wish he would have handed my my ticket.
Guess he got me back for waving and smiling.
Any way i get stoped, same approach. I had these new Grass mats that were still green... smelled like my car was full of dope. My bud and i were going to catch some waves on our sponges. So everything looked like a couple of Dopers.
Dude lets me off after i pop the hatch and sends me on my way... 2 months later i get a Failure to appear notice. Apparently He spared me the speeding ticket but hit me with a seatbelt. That would have been fine and dandy... no complaints. But he never presented me a ticket. So now i had a double fine and court costs when i could have mailed in a 50 dollar ticket. 50 bucks in college is like the world, let alone $120. So i call the Clerk to find out how to handle this, they advise me not to go infront of the judge with that story and just pay the fine in person. As i rightfully did. Still wish he would have handed my my ticket.
Guess he got me back for waving and smiling.
Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:50 pm
Originally posted by cavalierlwt
but we can't have a society where people say 'F*** you to the cops and refuse to follow those instructions.
This is what it all boils down to and I couldn't agree more. She got what she deserved and I gurantee you that next time she will act with more respect when she is (inevitably) arrested again.