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Postby SavageParrot » Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:26 am

I didn't think McDonalds was that picky :D

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Postby LordShard » Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:44 am

Lets see

how many jobs I quit without notice...

1,2,3,4, uhhhhh I'm not sure but maybe a 5th?

How many jobs with notice...2. :D

And I was recently hired at a place because they thought I was mature so they didn't wait till I was 20 like everyone else. >:P Hired at 18. Mwa ha ha ha

Beleave me, you omit as much as you can on bad stuff, except the most recent. So hopefully after your 4th or 5th job you can just leave it out from then on. :)

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Postby SavageParrot » Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:46 am

Originally posted by LordShard
And I was recently hired at a place because they thought I was mature so they didn't wait till I was 20 like everyone else. >:P Hired at 18. Mwa ha ha ha



Bahahahahahahahahahaha






Sorry that was mean. We;re they retarded or just realy dumb?
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Postby LordShard » Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:47 am

Originally posted by SavageParrot
Bahahahahahahahahahaha

Sorry that was mean. We;re they retarded or just realy dumb?
You would be surprised how good I've gotten at doing interviews.

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Postby cavalierlwt » Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:58 am

It's not uncommon to leave a job in a completely legitimate fashion but still be on bad terms with the ex-boss. As a rule of thumb, ex-employers will not say anything bad about you to prospective employers (for legal reasons). Allow them to call the previous employer, nothing bad should come of it.
Speaking of ex-employers, my layoff date is finally approaching :)
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Postby max zorin » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:01 am

When I interview new employees at "micro" oh a large software company :) I look for the following:

1.) Consistent work history: Meaning all of their work history and dates have a consistent flow, no gaps. If there is a gap you better be ready to explain it.

2.) References as our HR department checks them. So list references on you resume that you have a good relationship with in your previous employment. Doesn't have to be a boss that you worked with, just a person that you worked with on a consistent basis.

3.) Educational experience and completed certifications, this last one probably doesn't apply to you, but never the less it does have a factor in the "ranking" perspective if you go into the IT world.

my two cents.

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Postby Rand0m » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:17 am

Originally posted by cavalierlwt
It's not uncommon to leave a job in a completely legitimate fashion but still be on bad terms with the ex-boss. As a rule of thumb, ex-employers will not say anything bad about you to prospective employers (for legal reasons). Allow them to call the previous employer, nothing bad should come of it.
Speaking of ex-employers, my layoff date is finally approaching :)
It can't get here soon enough as far as I'm concerned.


yeah your probably right. Ive redone the application this morning. Im gonna call tomorrow or friday.



"I didn't think McDonalds was that picky "

:lol:

I dont think I'd ever work there. Just incase people are wondering, its Walgreens....hahaha, its close to home so I can either ride my bike or walk there.



I do have a gap in my employment...I left in february...its not that big of a gap, but if they ask I'll tell them I had things to do with college, school, and sports hehe.




thanks for the input guys.

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Postby Rand0m » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:28 am

Originally posted by max zorin
When I interview new employees at "micro" oh a large software company :) I look for the following:

1.) Consistent work history: Meaning all of their work history and dates have a consistent flow, no gaps. If there is a gap you better be ready to explain it.

2.) References as our HR department checks them. So list references on you resume that you have a good relationship with in your previous employment. Doesn't have to be a boss that you worked with, just a person that you worked with on a consistent basis.

3.) Educational experience and completed certifications, this last one probably doesn't apply to you, but never the less it does have a factor in the "ranking" perspective if you go into the IT world.

my two cents.

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well, I have a high school diploma :P . but these days people wipe their asses with them. Thanks for telling me about #1 so if they ask me in the interview I'll be ready. Im pretty confident that if their hiring and I get an interview I'll get the job.

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Postby Bromsin » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:34 am

I have heard there are laws that make sure a previous employer cannot badmouth you if called for a reference. Not sure if its true or the exact nature of the laws but you may want to investigate that. Im talking for NY so may be differenct elsewhere.

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Postby Rand0m » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:39 am

Originally posted by Bromsin
I have heard there are laws that make sure a previous employer cannot badmouth you if called for a reference. Not sure if its true or the exact nature of the laws but you may want to investigate that. Im talking for NY so may be differenct elsewhere.


yeah....I think after asking many people about this it is safe to say they cannot bad mouth former employees. Now whether they do or not, youll never know. If they do, and you find out I bet you can get em' in real deep cow crap. I think they can only ask if you did work there, the dates, and would you hire this person again. not too sure though.....I bet someone will come on and clarify this better who is a hiring manager. maybe max knows.

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Postby Ralph Wiggum » Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:51 pm

There probably aren't any laws preventing them from badmouthing you, but like Cavalierwt said most employers won't say anything bad (if it were illegal, what would be the point of asking for references?). They could get in trouble theoretically if they were telling lies about an employee, but if someone asks about how qualified an employee was and the answer was "not very," they're not doing anything wrong by saying so. In your case it sounds like it was personality issues not ability. In that situation, if the guy were smart, he would probably want to be careful. All in all, I think you should go ahead and list it since (1) the new employer probably won't call and (2) even if he hates you, your former employer probably won't go out of his way to torpedo you. If you have more than one place you are considering interviewing with, you might set up the one you are less interested in first and use it as a trial run just in case your former employer is out to get you.

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Postby Spirit of Me » Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:44 pm

Rand0m look at it this way, the situation itself is a learning experience. I for one am pleased to hear that the issue concerns you enough to try to make the best of it.

In the future you will address issues like this before an action, that my friend is maturity kicking in. Good luck on the job, I know you will make someone a great employee.
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Postby Rand0m » Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:47 pm

Originally posted by Spirit of Me
Rand0m look at it this way, the situation itself is a learning experience. I for one am pleased to hear that the issue concerns you enough to try to make the best of it.

In the future you will address issues like this before an action, that my friend is maturity kicking in. Good luck on the job, I know you will make someone a great employee.


Thanks for the kind words. :)

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Postby Bromsin » Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:27 pm

My suggestion is to play the lottery more....

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Postby LordShard » Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:42 pm

Lottery is evil, it preys on teh hopes and dreams of people wh ocan't really afford it. Then if they do win, they ussually go in debt further or die in an unnatural way in 2-3 years. You also find out you had allot of relatives who demand they get money. You get lawsuits and shit from people you never knew. Constant barrage of loan companies wanting to "consolodate your riches" with a 40% loan for the full amount you are expected to receive over the course of 20 years, bythe time it is done you are $100k s in debt.

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