Off topic, but don't go too far overboard - after all, we are watching...heh.
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Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:26 pm

we pay in CZ 4.5$gallon

Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:45 pm

http://www.optonline.net/News/Article/Feeds?CID=type%3Dxml%26channel%3D32%26article%3D15681476

"In addition to steps designed to alleviate the suffering of victims, the administration moved to cushion the impact the storm might have on the nation's oil supply.

Bush signed off on a plan to release oil from emergency stockpiles, a decision intended to offset the loss of production from Gulf Coast refiners.

At the same time, Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Stephen Johnson announced a temporary nationwide waiver of certain pollution standards covering gasoline and diesel fuels.

Johnson had issued the waiver for the four storm-damaged Gulf states on Tuesday but said the broader move was necessary "to ensure that fuel is available throughout the country, to address public health issues and emergency vehicle supply needs."

Additionally, Bodman said the Transportation Department had waived rules governing trucker hours, a step he said would increase the supply of gasoline."

Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:48 pm

Originally posted by deathBOB
With the new diesel fuel standards we should see a lot more consumer diesels in the coming years.

that's what I'm hoping.

Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:31 pm

Originally posted by cavalierlwt
Pretty soon, we'll have our back to the wall again, but this time there will be no relief to be found: China and India are transforming into industrial giants and they will soon use as much if not more oil than us. When that happens...well , you can do the math.



From Kazakhstan to Russia, China and India are definitely trying to secure as much oil as their pockets will allow.

China, India line up to compete for Kazakh oil deals

China and India: A Rage for Oil

There are only so many reserves out there, so your estimation on when we're going to be screwed over if we don't do something about this issue is in no way unrealistic. We simply can't maintain the same level of consumption for another 50 years unless some insane amount of undiscovered reserves are found. Even then, we'd be dealing with rising superpowers that will want a bigger slice of the pie.

A = we consume too much gas
B = we rely on too many exports

There's no way to achieve B until we solve A... and sadly I can't see any hope for "A" getting resolved within the next 10 years. It sounds pessimistic but this SUV infatuation makes me bitter.

Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:47 pm

$3.50

Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:20 pm

I have to say that this has been one of the more interesting and intelligently discussed threads I've seen on ECGN in a long time. And just about everyone here seems to have the proper frame of mind and a solid head on their shoulders. Keep up the discourse, fellas!

Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:12 pm

Originally posted by Ldsmith104
$2.65 is the cheapest in town

$2.73 here :flame:

Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:13 pm

Originally posted by Sabres
$2.73 here :flame:


I'm lucky, where I live in NJ it's only $2.59 =/

Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:26 pm

Originally posted by Evan
I'm lucky, where I live in NJ it's only $2.59 =/

that's still a lot but it's cheaper than up here! :D

Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:30 pm

i blame north korea
why?
just for fun

Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:21 am

It's all Skilo's fault:D


just went to 2.99

Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:57 am

Some Evil Canadians are behind it, I'm sure. I don't trust them, with their big smiles and 'awe shucks' nice guy attitude. They're hiding something, I know it.

Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:49 am

Too much money at the pump! Time for plan B:

http://www.misterfixit.com/siphon.htm :D

Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:54 am

no ones mentioned the war+gas......:freak:

Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:57 am

Originally posted by Evilmetal
Too much money at the pump! Time for plan B:

http://www.misterfixit.com/siphon.htm :D

LOL now that could be useful :lol:
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