Off topic, but don't go too far overboard - after all, we are watching...heh.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:05 pm

Good points. As a DMB fan I don't feel let down by the band. The editor of Rolling Stone made a comment about Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon, "They became a platinum monster and it's not much fun".

I can't imagine the roller coaster it must be to have created something that grows larger than your dreams could have imagined. I think we can draw very similar lines across the board for most bands as they rise and hopefully settle in for the long run.

Their styles and sounds and their energy lvl's can never be a constant for each one of our desires as fans. The set list last night was not to my liking somewhat but a few nights ago they hit my favs on the money in NY. What do you do? I settled in with a nice cold beer and a kind doob and enjoyed the performance.

I might be going to see a band called O.A.R in February and from what I can tell I've caught them early enough on that their drive and energy is still fresh, either way I just love a good live performance.

Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:16 pm

Havoc, go buy Nick Drake's Pink Moon. One of the greatest albums ever recorded, I think you will really like it.

Oh and LONG LIVE THE TALKING HEADS!

Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:26 pm

I will take a look at that album :D

Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:43 pm

Originally posted by A.M. Foxtrot
Funny how DMB pops up here every so often, and it usually winds up turning into the same discussion. :)

That said...When you start making music to satisfy a different group of people, forgetting what it was that got you there in the first place. I understand making a song or two...Or even a whole album devoted to bringing in more listeners to hear your music...That's cool with me. Though, the die-hard fans usually roll their eyes at that point. But when you've completely forgotten where you came from and decide to take a shit on the people that were there for you in the beginning, that to me, is selling-out your fans.


I agree. Crash and Under the Table both had a few 'radio' songs(What Would You Say, Too Much), but the majority of those albums were not.

It is now flipped. The majority seems to be for the radio.

Let You Down on Crash is one of my favorite songs for demoing audio equipment.

Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:42 pm

Originally posted by JimmyTango
Dave Matthews is a sell out.


Name me some bands on the radio that aren't sell outs. I've listened to a ton of bands before they made it big, and I've listened to a ton of bands that haven't made it big and probably never will. Thats the music industry. They join a label that changes their sound for a more mainstream audience to get the money, all there is to it. Theres only one band I've listened to that didn't drastically change their sound to make it on the radio and thats fall out boy. Now everyone and their mother knows about them. First heard them probably 3 years ago.

Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:29 pm

I just saw U2 in St. Louis last night and they did sell out... every seat in the joint. f-ing awesome. If Bono was a salesman, he sold me. Not a bad song played, the sound was great for a place with shitty acoustics...

Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:15 pm

Yeah I cought em a year or two ago and it was great. They have a ton of material and I love damn near most of it.

Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:38 am

Originally posted by Rand0m
Name me some bands on the radio that aren't sell outs..... They join a label that changes their sound for a more mainstream audience to get the money


Radiohead hasn't sold out. they've even changed their style to even less mainstream.

the joining a label thing is so fucking true, and i hate it. Producers these days seem to know how to make a song a hit by making it sound the same as every other song out there. being a huge fan of DMB from their early 90's era, the "mainstream" producer/label problem seems to have been their downfall. i regret never seeing them live when i had the chance twice. suppose i'm just a
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