Tue May 16, 2006 5:25 pm
Originally posted by cavalierlwt
Yeah, I'm still waiting to hear why Ethanol is too expensive now that gas is around $3 a gallon. Must be a moving fomula: Ethanol=Price of gas+$2
I have done some research of my own on ethanol and its use as a fuel, and from what I gathered if it were implemented it would LOWER the price of gas on an average of about 20 cents per gallon. Thats assuming a mixture of like 15% Ethanol to 85% Gasoline. Ethanol as you know comes from corn and the USA grows the most of corn at least to the best of my knowledge. Therefore allowing us the possibility to be self sufficient when it comes to fuel. Not only that Ethanol, when created and manufactured, is more efficient. Going by my research for every unit of energy it takes manufacture Ethanol we get a return of 1.26-1.28 (i think) units of energy. Therefore making it far more efficient to manfacture and use.
Auto manufacturers are already starting to produce cars that are ready to run on pure Ethanol fuel. Which is why I think that may be the real reason why gas is so expensive at the moment... cuz they know that in the coming years Ethanol will become more popular and therefore the demand for actual gas will gradually go down, and then it won't be great for investors to invest in Oil companies anymore. So they are bascially bleeding us dry of our money now to help pay for their early retirement when gas becomes the secondary fuel in the near future years.
Ethanol will just be all around better because we can produce it and we don't need to pay other countries to import to corn to make it. Although corn is only 1 source for Ethanol, because I do believe they keep finding more and more things they can use to produce Ethanol.
Tue May 16, 2006 5:30 pm
I don't know about you guys, but i don't like to think of the good people who died on 9/11 would really appreciate their lives being trivialized by the fact that i can't fill my hummer for less than $80 anymore. Lets try and keep on topic with why alofwar has just discovered that a hijacked plane hit the pentagon almost 5 years ago.
Tue May 16, 2006 5:44 pm
Thank you King, i posted this in order to further my knowledge of this terrible tradgerdy and respect for those who died.
My guess is that since there wasnt footage of it and the Government would rather not focus on its military command centre being attacked so it limited infomation.
But there is one issue, how the hell did a plane get that close to the pentagon????? Surely they would have detected a plane in what would be i assume a no fly zone, immmediately once the plane did not change course upon being alerted, Fighters would be scrambled to intercept it and the Pentagon must have many defences against aircraft which a giant slow passenger jet would have no chance of getting pass.
Also u notice the video is a series of stills and u only see the nose of the plane, meaning it could indeed have been a conspiracy and that plane went down elsewhere and wascovered up.
My guess is that since there wasnt footage of it and the Government would rather not focus on its military command centre being attacked so it limited infomation.
But there is one issue, how the hell did a plane get that close to the pentagon????? Surely they would have detected a plane in what would be i assume a no fly zone, immmediately once the plane did not change course upon being alerted, Fighters would be scrambled to intercept it and the Pentagon must have many defences against aircraft which a giant slow passenger jet would have no chance of getting pass.
Also u notice the video is a series of stills and u only see the nose of the plane, meaning it could indeed have been a conspiracy and that plane went down elsewhere and wascovered up.
Tue May 16, 2006 5:53 pm
Some peopel think 911 never happened and use small, stupid reasons as to why not(look, a light before the plane hits, it was a missle!). Some people think that the Holocaust never happened. Some people think the Earth is flat, that NASA is completely the work of Hollywood. There is a tribe on some backward island in the Pacific(wish I could remember which island) that pray to planes and think that White men are Gods because, during WW2, they used the island as an airfield and Holy Shit these pale fucks are FLYING. They shit themselves, their little twigs and leaves boxer shorts were soiled. Why? They are in the fucking air therefor they are a fucking God.
See, some people are just plain fucking stupid. Sadly, the internet brings these stupid fucks closer together.
P.S. Hitler was the founder of the Peace Corps, Green Peace and the United Negro College Fund. Possibly the first Pope, too. Not sure on that one.
See, some people are just plain fucking stupid. Sadly, the internet brings these stupid fucks closer together.
P.S. Hitler was the founder of the Peace Corps, Green Peace and the United Negro College Fund. Possibly the first Pope, too. Not sure on that one.
Tue May 16, 2006 5:56 pm
Yeah Jimmy most conspiracies are complete BS, but some are worth serious thought.
Tue May 16, 2006 6:00 pm
alofwar has a point, i just happening to fli[p through the channels and saw stills of the Pentagon clean up. But it was actually a persons views on why it WASN'T a plane. anyways before you stop reading it was interesting to hear a ....few odd facts. The side of the building that was hit was the side that was going through reconstruction (hence a viable target with minimal loss) another they pointed out was that most people close to the actually accident DIDN'T hear a Jet passing, most times you go past airport you can hear a jet talking off and landing and they are much farther than when one comes crashing down. Another thing they said was that it's odd how they flew so close to the deck to avoid the AA system which i beleive to be in the middle of the Pentagon. They wanted you to beleive that it was a global hawk that was crash/slammed into the building.
Thats what their point was, mine on the other hand always was a bit suspicious of the LACK of Aircraft parts in the wreckage. 60+ passangers, luggage, FUEL (shouldn't there of been a HUGH fire?), aluminium, all disapears where were the 4 turbine engines or the wings? I have yet to see those photos, yea i might sound gulable for not beleive the all honest truthfulness of my government, but it makes me wonder at times. --- if you have a site that shows all those things i'm not seeing please link it.
Thats what their point was, mine on the other hand always was a bit suspicious of the LACK of Aircraft parts in the wreckage. 60+ passangers, luggage, FUEL (shouldn't there of been a HUGH fire?), aluminium, all disapears where were the 4 turbine engines or the wings? I have yet to see those photos, yea i might sound gulable for not beleive the all honest truthfulness of my government, but it makes me wonder at times. --- if you have a site that shows all those things i'm not seeing please link it.
Tue May 16, 2006 6:03 pm
Originally posted by goochillini
Hussen HAD WMD's the U.S., British, French, Russian, Israeli, and German Intelligence agencies all had info of his arms.
Plus you had the receipts from when you sold them to him.
Tue May 16, 2006 6:36 pm
Thinking of 9/11 makes BTT 
Tue May 16, 2006 7:26 pm
Savage your not a Tony Blair fan are you.
Tue May 16, 2006 7:27 pm
nice link! When are they gonna release those damn videos from the hotel, gas station, and highway department? AHHH!! it's been almost 5 years!Originally posted by SavageParrot
http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php#Main
What do you think?
Tue May 16, 2006 7:28 pm
Another point on the Iranian leader, he also has stated that he will conquer Christianity and the West because god (Allah) will save Islam and glorify Islamic fighters.
Tue May 16, 2006 7:37 pm
To comment on Sabres post...
1) People say it sounded like a missle, maybe it hasn't happened to me yet, but I've never heard a missle fly by me.
2) The planes that crashed into the WTC didnt even go through the WTC and with over 9,000 gallons of jet fuel basically dissintegrated. This explains why little material was actually found from the plane. Seeing thats its made of metal like the building its not easy to differentiate between a plane and a wall. Any of the eye witnesses would not have made those claims if they worked for the pentagon, so therefore they are outside sources who can't be validated IMO.
3) Honestly, where did the missle come from.
4) Where did American 77 flight go.
5) The missle was never shot, American Flight 77 went into the pentagon.
Not bashing you Sabres, just explain why the video is complete bullshit.
As for the government not releasing footage, do they ever? No they don't, for good reason to. Seeing that they know the exact plot of Marwan al-Shehi its almost ignorant to think that anything but a plane flew into the pentagon.
1) People say it sounded like a missle, maybe it hasn't happened to me yet, but I've never heard a missle fly by me.
2) The planes that crashed into the WTC didnt even go through the WTC and with over 9,000 gallons of jet fuel basically dissintegrated. This explains why little material was actually found from the plane. Seeing thats its made of metal like the building its not easy to differentiate between a plane and a wall. Any of the eye witnesses would not have made those claims if they worked for the pentagon, so therefore they are outside sources who can't be validated IMO.
3) Honestly, where did the missle come from.
4) Where did American 77 flight go.
5) The missle was never shot, American Flight 77 went into the pentagon.
Not bashing you Sabres, just explain why the video is complete bullshit.
As for the government not releasing footage, do they ever? No they don't, for good reason to. Seeing that they know the exact plot of Marwan al-Shehi its almost ignorant to think that anything but a plane flew into the pentagon.
Tue May 16, 2006 8:28 pm
I saw the new video.. and to be honest.. it doesn't really show anything we haven't already seen. Not to me at least. Like alofwar said... all you see is the nose of "something" and then the next frame, the building is on fire/exploding.
While the conspiracy theorists make some good points.. I still believe the plane hit the building, as impossible as it sounds. After all, you would have to be an aerospace and construction engineer to know all the details of what would actually be the result of such a crash.
I dont think the plane could have "disappeared" any other way. Not in today's world at least. With private radios, radar, video cameras and cell phones.. Somebody would have seen something.
While the conspiracy theorists make some good points.. I still believe the plane hit the building, as impossible as it sounds. After all, you would have to be an aerospace and construction engineer to know all the details of what would actually be the result of such a crash.
I dont think the plane could have "disappeared" any other way. Not in today's world at least. With private radios, radar, video cameras and cell phones.. Somebody would have seen something.
Tue May 16, 2006 8:44 pm
Originally posted by Conscious*
Another point on the Iranian leader, he also has stated that he will conquer Christianity and the West because god (Allah) will save Islam and glorify Islamic fighters.
Perhaps the next BF2 xpack will pitch the IRI against the CRA in a religious war.
Tue May 16, 2006 8:54 pm
Originally posted by Chacal
Perhaps the next BF2 xpack will pitch the IRI against the CRA in a religious war.
lol