9/11 attacks on pentagon????

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Postby Ldsmith104 » Thu May 18, 2006 9:36 pm

Originally posted by munky73770
...flight transponder was turned off sometime after the hijacking...


Why is there even an off switch, what would you need to turn it off for?
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Postby munky73770 » Thu May 18, 2006 11:23 pm

How the hell should I know, I don't build cockpits! :)

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Postby kevd » Thu May 18, 2006 11:28 pm

i'm not sure what i believe relating to 9/11. i think it is good to hear points from both sides and not jump to any conclusions. here is a link to a very well done video that raises many many questions.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7162539532254137232&q=loose+change+2

its an hour 21 mins long...so set aside some time to watch the whole thing
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Postby Mugzy » Thu May 18, 2006 11:58 pm

Originally posted by Ldsmith104
Why is there even an off switch, what would you need to turn it off for?


You turn it off when on the ground. Parked, taxing etc. Helps the clutter on the traffic controller's screen.

Note, turning off a transponder does not mean you can't be seen on radar anymore. The transponder just enhances your radar signature.
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Postby Ldsmith104 » Fri May 19, 2006 12:02 am

They should be auto on at certain speed/altitude
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Postby Darknut » Fri May 19, 2006 8:23 am

...Having a second go at the Pentagon doesn't mean a whole lot. This isn't BF2 where they could respawn and try again. They had once chance to pull it off so if things didn't go right on the first run they would have backed off and tried again. I also doubt that they knew it was reinforced where they hit it.

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Postby Chacal » Fri May 19, 2006 7:15 pm

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Postby Ldsmith104 » Sat May 20, 2006 1:02 am

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Postby SavageParrot » Sat May 20, 2006 4:13 am

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Postby cavalierlwt » Sat May 20, 2006 8:18 am

I love it. The guy in the counterthing.org article implies they never found undercarriage, engines, or passengers of Flight 77. Wrong, wrong, and wrong.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html

There's debris that is clearly undercarriage (like the wheels) and engines (they found the engines with serial numbers intact) and DNA recovery identified almost every single passenger.
http://www.dcmilitary.com/army/stripe/6_48/national_news/12279-1.html

Here's the other thing: *hundreds* of people SAW the plane crash into pentagon. It was a nice sunny day. There is no shortages of witnesses who actually SAW the passenger jet flying a few dozen feet off the ground headed toward the Pentagon. There are snapped off trees and lightpoles leading to the Pentagon. A piece of a lightpole fell on a taxi cab, injuring the driver. For a missile conspiracy to work, the people in charge would have to obtain flight 77, break the jet plane apart and kill the passengers (in secrecy) in a matter of hours, then launch the missile into the Pentagon, then in a flurry of activities create the path of destruction leading to the Pentagon (tree and lightpoles etc) and quickly plant the debris of Flight 77 along with bits and pieces of most of the passengers into the hole left behind by the missile.
If I'm the 'evil conspirator' and I have control of the jet, wouldn't I just take the easiest route and crash the jet into the Pentagon, instead of going through all the trouble and hitting it with a missile?
Same with the retard 'bombs in the Twin Towers' people. If I'm the evil conspirator, and I can and do plant bombs in the WTC, why bother with a risky operation involving hijacking planes and such, only to bring down the towers later with the bombs? Wouldn't it just be easier to blow the WTC up and say 'holy shit, the arabs just blew up the WTC with some bombs!' It would certainly be a very plausible story since arab terrorist had attempted to blow up the WTC just a few years ago with a truck bomb!
That's the major flaw with these conspiracy theories, they don't consider the realities of the world. While some might say Bush took advantage of 9/11 to attack Iraq, the idea that 9/11 was planned as an excuse is the most retarded thing in the world. Believe me, if the US wants to force an incident to get into a war with Iraq, there a million easier and safer ways to do it.
I think it's funny, as conspiracy theorists get debunked on each of their talking points, they just abandon them and jump to something new, like building 7. When they finally get debunked on their last few bits of 'evidence', they revert back to earlier refuted evidence, because people get tired of rehashing it and re-proving it. It's like a rope-a-dope assault that just wears you out.
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