The Missing Element of Fun

[richard]

Some players use centerview and a low pitch to keep their shots at headshot level. It's lame, yes, but there isn't any satisfactory way to disable it in shrub.

RTCW servers on 1.0/1.1/1.3 use mods such as s4ndmod which has a built in anti CenteView mode. I must say It works extremly well.
the lamers soon put up or shut up.

seta g_allowCV "1" // Allow centerviewer


it is posible to make a QMM plugin
with the code and add it to ECGN that way.


there is a guy "Dutchmeat" who has experience with creating plugins
http://maintain-et.net/gmScriptMod/



an example of how code could work: (thanks to LO for his code )


int centerview_kick(gentity_t *ent){
char *line;

if (sb_system.integer && sb_checkCV.integer) {

if ( sb_CVkickAmount.integer != 0 ) {

int count = ent->client->pers.cvTimes;

if ((count >= sb_CVkickAmount.integer) && (ent->client->pers.cvTimes)) {

// kill the flags
ent->flags &= ~FL_GODMODE;
ent->client->ps.stats[STAT_HEALTH] = ent->health = 0;
// drop the player
trap_DropClient( ent-g_entities, "^3Kicked: ^3For ^3Centerviewing" );
trap_SendServerCommand(-1, va("chat \"^3SB^7: %s ^7got kicked for ^3To many attempts to Centerview.\n\"", ent->client->pers.netname));
line=va(">> auto tempbanned for centerviewing <<");
TEMPBAN_CLIENT_REASON(ent, sb_AutoTempBanTime.integer, line);

// Log the centerview attempt
if (g_extendedLog.integer) {
line =va("Player: %s (%i.%i.%i.%i) got kicked for CENTERVIEW!\n",
ent->client->pers.netname, ent->client->sess.GUID[0], ent->client->sess.GUID[1],
ent->client->sess.GUID[2], ent->client->sess.GUID[3]);
logEntry (PLAYERSLOG, line);



plus the guids would be recorded to the server logs.

i could email Eamon and see if he is up to the project

and run a trail etc


cheers
Rich

[=CaK= YoShI]

Haha it's always a pain in the ass for my friend when he uses centerview and is auto-killed I laugh so much. But he still uses it on ECGN

However a low pitch (minimum is "0.016") isn't lame. It makes vertical aim slower, headshots are a bit easier. I and most good players use it.

[Slaughter2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fun

mousewheel up fov 90
mousewheel down fov 112

All shots are possible with 90, long distance becomes much much more close

[Macabre]

Only thing I change is intensity, everything else is default. This is probably why you know I don't hack. It is frustrating when I start shooting someone in the back only to have them turn around and 3 shot me. And I'll agree, it's always the same people. If they all changed their names I could pick them out pretty quickly just from the way I die to them. It seems abnormal I'll admit, it is very different from most other players.

I don't accuse of hacking though because I do play at default and so I have to expect they do have an advantage. I see some people say that certain players seem hard to hit, I had a friend years ago say he was able to make himself/hitbox smaller and yes, he played on the server. I honestly couldn't say who is tweaking and who is hacking I just know that some people seem harder to hit, some seem to have stronger bullets, and some seem to headshot with ease.

Being a default player I have just always took comfort in the fact that I'm pretty good. I would bet that if these players used a default config they would have their hands full in dealing with me. It won't happen and when it comes to me tweaking I am not that frustrated yet. Maybe eventually I'll get there and change things up but for now, knowing that on occasion I can bust there ass works for me.

On a different subject, some of you know I took a year off wolf and just started playing again inside a month now. The server I left a year ago seems to be gone. People's attitude, smart mouths and constant complaining on the server is what is currently bothering me the most. Some people on the server have always tested their limits when it comes to admins. I felt this was the case with a handful of players since I returned. I have made a few enemies recently due to the fact I would just temp ban them when they started tk'ing, bleeding or overly running their mouths.

Anyone who knows me knows why I asked for admin. To me the game is more important than any player. The survival of the server comes first and foremost. It seems to me that the attitude on the server is terrible. I've also learned that these "problem players" seem to run in packs. You ban one of them for a game or two for whatever reason and suddenly your the "bad" admin to a group of people.

My verdict is still out on whether other admins have allowed this to go on so long that the server is in it's current state or these players are just testing me. I do know that when MAA is on it's like night and day. I would also say there is entirely too many players with level 1 status. I have seen some players abusing the launch command during matches and wonder how in the world some of these bad attitude, self serving players got level 1 in the first place.

In conclusion, I want the old server back though honestly I think it is gone and/or just changed. I would trade 1 Meyer for 10 of these "bad attitude" players anyday. I'm not setting out to change the server, i did feel the need to let some players know i might not have played for awhile but I wasn't going to put up with their crap and let them do things that I thought was hurting the server, due to this I'm sure I was a little harsher than normal. Like I said, anyone who knows me from the past knows I'm not a control freak admin. I still hope to be playing this game on this server 5 years from now and I hope I'm still playing it with the great crowd that originally made this server what it is.

P.s. I'm on a phone and in a hurry, sorry if I make no sense or ramble but the server has been on my mind lately.

[MAN-AT-ARMS]

That's all good info Voodoo, we'll have to look into that. I think I did check into using QMM for something like that once before, but not centerview. Nice.

I'd be interested in maybe trying that out. I'm not so sure about the auto-ban part, but maybe just converting it into another action to effectively disable it. The use of it is not what I would consider a huge problem here. I don't think any skilled player would really need it or use it, but I'm guessing there are a few who do.


I don't mean to downplay people's reaction/frustration with 'those' players on the server. There is pretty wide variance in skill levels here simply because this is the only worthwhile place left to play.

I'm not going to ban people for just being better players than the few players who can't come to grips with the fact that someone out there is better than they are. It's a relatively small number of people who complain. If it were as terrible as they make it out to be, they wouldn't still be here after 9 years.

[Paco's Gun]

The only people I ever see using centerview are like carpetclay... and it doesn't seem to be helping him lol.

[nigel]

A++ thread will read again.

[SuPer PuZZy]

Cateye is right. Fun is what you make of it.

pee on hackers

stalk sexy players

run around and shoot at feet only

run around with crossed eyes

pee on every dead body you see

hide the docs in a wall

give himler drugs:D

give the players a nickname

and annoy me myself and I:violin:

poison headshot on the hill:sniper:


I luv you all


pee you on the beach!

[richard]

That's all good info Voodoo, we'll have to look into that. I think I did check into using QMM for something like that once before, but not centerview. Nice.

I'd be interested in maybe trying that out. I'm not so sure about the auto-ban part, but maybe just converting it into another action to effectively disable it. The use of it is not what I would consider a huge problem here. I don't think any skilled player would really need it or use it, but I'm guessing there are a few who do.


I don't mean to downplay people's reaction/frustration with 'those' players on the server. There is pretty wide variance in skill levels here simply because this is the only worthwhile place left to play.

I'm not going to ban people for just being better players than the few players who can't come to grips with the fact that someone out there is better than they are. It's a relatively small number of people who complain. If it were as terrible as they make it out to be, they wouldn't still be here after 9 years.

Hey

I sent info off to Eamon ,
hopefully he can give a few pointers with a plugin.

cheers
Rich

[brainiac]

Jesus Christ, another thread complaining about hackers? I wonder why the only people complaining about hackers are those who haven't played anything besides beach...

[=TAO=WARPIG]

Jesus Christ, another thread complaining about hackers? I wonder why the only people complaining about hackers are those who haven't played anything besides beach...

wtf?? just spent the last two hours playing MarketGarden and 3 hours last night on Breakout.
Stop talkin' out of your ass.
Not to mention that the maps rotate quite often at ECGN as it is.

so your statement is...well pretty fucking stupid.

[B]

He's banned Warpig...he is only guessing to be able to post something.

[SuPer PuZZy]

He's banned Warpig...he is only guessing to be able to post something.

[=X= Puny]

Oh for fuck sakes not another players are hacking post. I thought it was clear hacks are out there but its obvious as hell when someones hacking. If you think one of these players are hacking just spec them and /demo them and show everyone else. If you cant be bothered to do that then stfu untill you can backup your claims.

[=CaK= YoShI]

I often spec good players and I've never seen anything suspicious about hacking. If you think a player can't seem to be hit when you fight him, demo it and watch it with OSP in slow-motion. Like me you'll probably notice you didn't aim as weel as you thought ...