Zog
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- Starlight
by Starlight » Fri Jun 20, 2003 3:45 pm
Wow I missed your reply ages ago! I just now noticed that.
Yup Beast is NNC now and so am I. So yup Im happy:) Oh and isn't teabag ss also? Im pretty sure but I haven't seen him lately. How come everyone is for et? I guess its not that bad but I just can't see myself playing a lot of it for some reason. I tried... but yeah I will definitley drop by sometime though:P heh heh Lord Zog a name I will never forget...your right;)
Yup Beast is NNC now and so am I. So yup Im happy:) Oh and isn't teabag ss also? Im pretty sure but I haven't seen him lately. How come everyone is for et? I guess its not that bad but I just can't see myself playing a lot of it for some reason. I tried... but yeah I will definitley drop by sometime though:P heh heh Lord Zog a name I will never forget...your right;)
- the zoloft kid
by the zoloft kid » Sun Jun 22, 2003 1:43 pm
I too have experienced problems with ZOG on 24-7 beach.
Admittedly I am still learning this game and usually learn by trial and error.
But when I do ask a question of an ADMIN, I dont expect to be berated by the ADMIN and all of his croonies.
The question in question (heh heh heh), was about door blocking. I constantly hear the ADMIN warn players about blocking doors and all I wanted to know is
"CAN YOU BLOCK ENEMYS FROM USING DOORS?"
In my opinion, if you are trying to learn a game there are no sutpid questions.
I posed the question to ZOG and was immediately labled as stupid and had my chat dissabled. And then forced to listen to he and his cast of "Renfields" say what an idoit I am for asking a question, without having the oppurtunity reply.
It was one of the most childish displays I've ever seen an Admin do.
Nice community you have here.
Again in my opionion, this does nothing but drive away people from ECGN and the RTCW community, at a time
when I think support and new players are greatly needed.
Not wanting to cause trouble or resort to name calling (which is not above said Admin), I still believe Mr. ZOG
does not represent ECGN in a positive and helpful
manner. Rather a sad person on a powertrip who uses
his ADMIN position to inflate his EGO at the expense of ECGN players who are there to have fun and not " KNEEL BEFORE ZOG". (his sig, not mine)
Perhaps this is not seen as a problem by other people, if not,
please excuse this post and happy gamming.
thank you
the zoloft kid.
Admittedly I am still learning this game and usually learn by trial and error.
But when I do ask a question of an ADMIN, I dont expect to be berated by the ADMIN and all of his croonies.
The question in question (heh heh heh), was about door blocking. I constantly hear the ADMIN warn players about blocking doors and all I wanted to know is
"CAN YOU BLOCK ENEMYS FROM USING DOORS?"
In my opinion, if you are trying to learn a game there are no sutpid questions.
I posed the question to ZOG and was immediately labled as stupid and had my chat dissabled. And then forced to listen to he and his cast of "Renfields" say what an idoit I am for asking a question, without having the oppurtunity reply.
It was one of the most childish displays I've ever seen an Admin do.
Nice community you have here.
Again in my opionion, this does nothing but drive away people from ECGN and the RTCW community, at a time
when I think support and new players are greatly needed.
Not wanting to cause trouble or resort to name calling (which is not above said Admin), I still believe Mr. ZOG
does not represent ECGN in a positive and helpful
manner. Rather a sad person on a powertrip who uses
his ADMIN position to inflate his EGO at the expense of ECGN players who are there to have fun and not " KNEEL BEFORE ZOG". (his sig, not mine)
Perhaps this is not seen as a problem by other people, if not,
please excuse this post and happy gamming.
thank you
the zoloft kid.
- [U.S.C] Amaryl
by [U.S.C] Amaryl » Sun Jun 22, 2003 2:45 pm
Originally posted by the zoloft kid
I too have experienced problems with ZOG on 24-7 beach.
Admittedly I am still learning this game and usually learn by trial and error.
But when I do ask a question of an ADMIN, I dont expect to be berated by the ADMIN and all of his croonies.
The question in question (heh heh heh), was about door blocking. I constantly hear the ADMIN warn players about blocking doors and all I wanted to know is
"CAN YOU BLOCK ENEMYS FROM USING DOORS?"
In my opinion, if you are trying to learn a game there are no sutpid questions.
I posed the question to ZOG and was immediately labled as stupid and had my chat dissabled. And then forced to listen to he and his cast of "Renfields" say what an idoit I am for asking a question, without having the oppurtunity reply.
It was one of the most childish displays I've ever seen an Admin do.
Nice community you have here.
Again in my opionion, this does nothing but drive away people from ECGN and the RTCW community, at a time
when I think support and new players are greatly needed.
Not wanting to cause trouble or resort to name calling (which is not above said Admin), I still believe Mr. ZOG
does not represent ECGN in a positive and helpful
manner. Rather a sad person on a powertrip who uses
his ADMIN position to inflate his EGO at the expense of ECGN players who are there to have fun and not " KNEEL BEFORE ZOG". (his sig, not mine)
Perhaps this is not seen as a problem by other people, if not,
please excuse this post and happy gamming.
thank you
the zoloft kid.
First of all, There are always stupid questions is your decision to choose the right one or the wrong one, you have chosen the wrong one.Why?
don´t you think that blocking the door from enemies you are just a target for your enemies and soon a dead guy - amount of gibs in a few seconds
Second one: don´t block doorways when others teamplayers want to pass through and you stay there making fun ( I don´t see anything funny in this behavour)or near spawnpoints as the forward bunker door trying to fire a panzer rocket just after respawning not allowing others players getting out the bunker.
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by {TBAR}ANIMALMOM » Sun Jun 22, 2003 9:24 pm
Dude i was there all day, The ECGN admins do a good job.
I have a server of my own through ECGN. The damn game has been out for 2 years, this server is old school just like most players on it are. The babysiting, kid punk,toughguy,
days are over for most of them guys. Uninstall the game or
find a differnt server simple as pie {s.s heir pie}:beer:
I have a server of my own through ECGN. The damn game has been out for 2 years, this server is old school just like most players on it are. The babysiting, kid punk,toughguy,
days are over for most of them guys. Uninstall the game or
find a differnt server simple as pie {s.s heir pie}:beer:
- Keekanoo
by Keekanoo » Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:26 pm
In response to the Zoloft Kid--First of all, I commend you on your level of writing skill. Yet another example of how decieving a name can be. I'm a writer and was pleasantly surprised to see how well you structured your thoughts.
Not that I agree with some of them, lol.
Yes, there are stupid questions.
I was playing today and kicked a guy (after warning) for blocking the allied spawn. He came back asking 'What does spawn block mean'.
Now I'm sorry, but you don't have to be Einstein to know that when your playing on-line and a door way is big enough for one person, and that if your standing in it, that there are going to be people blocked behind you. Especially in a spawn.
If you're old enough to type 'what's spawn block mean' you should be old enough to walk. And if you walk, it should be common sense in your life experience that when you stand in a door-way at a supermarket, bank, school, etc, that you're blocking people's egress.
I mean--that IS obvious, isn't it?
Personally I watch character actions. You can tell when it's a complete noob playing because they're staring at the floor, the ceiling, moveing in jerky circles--they don't even know how to fire a gun, let alone at who. Those people I try to fling a few times to get their attention. Probably only makes them even more confused. Then I kick them. It's heartless, but you know what? Play the damned game at home and get used to things before destroying the on-line experience for everyone.
As for blocking the enemy--absolutely. My favourite is blocking the objective carrier, as it's usually a med trying to feed himself health--no weapon. So he burns against me while I stand there smelling his bad breath, then take him out, nice and casual like. Helping my head-shot count by taking slow, careful aim as I plug just 4 rounds into his tuque-support system.
Not that I agree with some of them, lol.
Yes, there are stupid questions.
I was playing today and kicked a guy (after warning) for blocking the allied spawn. He came back asking 'What does spawn block mean'.
Now I'm sorry, but you don't have to be Einstein to know that when your playing on-line and a door way is big enough for one person, and that if your standing in it, that there are going to be people blocked behind you. Especially in a spawn.
If you're old enough to type 'what's spawn block mean' you should be old enough to walk. And if you walk, it should be common sense in your life experience that when you stand in a door-way at a supermarket, bank, school, etc, that you're blocking people's egress.
I mean--that IS obvious, isn't it?
Personally I watch character actions. You can tell when it's a complete noob playing because they're staring at the floor, the ceiling, moveing in jerky circles--they don't even know how to fire a gun, let alone at who. Those people I try to fling a few times to get their attention. Probably only makes them even more confused. Then I kick them. It's heartless, but you know what? Play the damned game at home and get used to things before destroying the on-line experience for everyone.
As for blocking the enemy--absolutely. My favourite is blocking the objective carrier, as it's usually a med trying to feed himself health--no weapon. So he burns against me while I stand there smelling his bad breath, then take him out, nice and casual like. Helping my head-shot count by taking slow, careful aim as I plug just 4 rounds into his tuque-support system.
by Lord ZOG » Mon Jun 23, 2003 10:42 pm
Keek, you're a kiss-ass wimp.
Let's face it, there are bound to be some people who don't like other people, whether they're an Admin or not.
I have my detractors, and I have people who appreciate what I do, and how I do it.
Zoloft has always been quiet, never bothering anybody until recently. He asks a question in the middle of a game that I happen to be participating in. I didn't understand the question (so much for his writing skills) so I just chose not to answer it.
I have a saying bound to a key that basically says "Attention noobs, the forward bunker door is for running through, not standing in!" (I'm sure we've all seen it). Shortly after running that question off a few times he started getting all pissy about us (or specifically me) not answering his poorly worded question. He wanted to know if it was OK to block the enemy, or if there was a way to prevent the enemy from using doors or something like that.
I answered that I "...only answer questions that make sense." Succinct, slightly acerbic yet humorous, and to the point.
Mr. Zoloft then went off on a frothing tangent, where-upon the wrath of most of the regulars was unleashed, and they gave him the business, in none-too-short order.
It can be tough not fitting in...god knows we've all been there at one point or another.
Keek, you're a melted bar of soap, washed down by the need to appeal to as many people as possible. Me? I'm the Old Man on the Mountain...the chiseled, jagged peak of K2...the alligator's molar...the rusty, unexploded WWII 88mm munitions laying in GrandPa Francois' backyard...
...and frankly I don't think posing as GrandPa Walton would enhance my image.
Let's face it, there are bound to be some people who don't like other people, whether they're an Admin or not.
I have my detractors, and I have people who appreciate what I do, and how I do it.
Zoloft has always been quiet, never bothering anybody until recently. He asks a question in the middle of a game that I happen to be participating in. I didn't understand the question (so much for his writing skills) so I just chose not to answer it.
I have a saying bound to a key that basically says "Attention noobs, the forward bunker door is for running through, not standing in!" (I'm sure we've all seen it). Shortly after running that question off a few times he started getting all pissy about us (or specifically me) not answering his poorly worded question. He wanted to know if it was OK to block the enemy, or if there was a way to prevent the enemy from using doors or something like that.
I answered that I "...only answer questions that make sense." Succinct, slightly acerbic yet humorous, and to the point.
Mr. Zoloft then went off on a frothing tangent, where-upon the wrath of most of the regulars was unleashed, and they gave him the business, in none-too-short order.
It can be tough not fitting in...god knows we've all been there at one point or another.
Keek, you're a melted bar of soap, washed down by the need to appeal to as many people as possible. Me? I'm the Old Man on the Mountain...the chiseled, jagged peak of K2...the alligator's molar...the rusty, unexploded WWII 88mm munitions laying in GrandPa Francois' backyard...
...and frankly I don't think posing as GrandPa Walton would enhance my image.
Lord ZOG
"Well hello Mister Fancypants. Well, I've got news for you pal, you ain't leadin' but two things: Jack and shit... and Jack just left town."
"Well hello Mister Fancypants. Well, I've got news for you pal, you ain't leadin' but two things: Jack and shit... and Jack just left town."
- [U.S.C] Amaryl
by [U.S.C] Amaryl » Tue Jun 24, 2003 10:54 am
lol!Originally posted by Keekanoo
...
Now I'm sorry, but you don't have to be Einstein to know that when your playing on-line and a door way is big enough for one person, and that if your standing in it, that there are going to be people blocked behind you. Especially in a spawn.
...
If you're old enough to type 'what's spawn block mean' you should be old enough to walk. And if you walk, it should be common sense in your life experience that when you stand in a door-way at a supermarket, bank, school, etc, that you're blocking people's egress.
I mean--that IS obvious, isn't it? ...
- Doug the Unforgiven
by Doug the Unforgiven » Tue Jun 24, 2003 11:19 am
I never knew that the phrase "KNEEL BEFORE ZOG" could be so offensive. If you had any sense, you would have been prostrate immediatlely (NO, I did not say 'prostate').
As for Zog's ego -- it is already impossibly too big to be helped out by any "Admin" position.
Love always,
Doug
As for Zog's ego -- it is already impossibly too big to be helped out by any "Admin" position.
Love always,
Doug
- supersTring
by supersTring » Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:02 pm
too funny that Keek's flinging the noobs
lol
piling on the confusion and anxiety
and Zog's "Att: Noobs..." bind rocks
i need to add something like that to my config (as well as a "salute" bind)
btw Keek- I'm a writer too. 3rd yr MFA student right now in Fiction Writing (yes I'm that old)- putting together a book-length collection of short fiction and i've been doing some local sports features for the newspaper (for almost no money)
what do you write?
i've got a story published on a site right now http://www.freewilliamsburg.com/may_2003/williams.doc
if you're bored check it out
supersTring's theory for the day:
War is God's way of teaching Americans geography.
lol
piling on the confusion and anxiety
and Zog's "Att: Noobs..." bind rocks
i need to add something like that to my config (as well as a "salute" bind)
btw Keek- I'm a writer too. 3rd yr MFA student right now in Fiction Writing (yes I'm that old)- putting together a book-length collection of short fiction and i've been doing some local sports features for the newspaper (for almost no money)
what do you write?
i've got a story published on a site right now http://www.freewilliamsburg.com/may_2003/williams.doc
if you're bored check it out
supersTring's theory for the day:
War is God's way of teaching Americans geography.
- the zoloft kid
by the zoloft kid » Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:46 pm
Originally posted by Keekanoo
As for blocking the enemy--absolutely. My favourite is blocking the objective carrier, as it's usually a med trying to feed himself health--no weapon. So he burns against me while I stand there smelling his bad breath, then take him out, nice and casual like. Helping my head-shot count by taking slow, careful aim as I plug just 4 rounds into his tuque-support system. [/B]
Thank you very much Keek. That is excactly what I wanted to know.
On occasions while sniping for the Axis near the radio room,
an objective carrier will be on the way to the radio room.
I would then stand in the door an prevent entrance. Sometimes I manage a kill, I manage to GET killed and sometimes I can block the door long enough until someone
with heavier wepaonry makes the save.
I guess a more understandable way to pose it would be:
"IS IT BAD FORM to block an enemy from using a door?"
I would like to mention that after reading Mr. ZOGs response,
I find it to be less than honest.
I can assure everyone that I did NOT get "pissy" until it was inferred I was a moron. The most demeaning thing that was said by me was that after this fiasco, I found him to be a
"sorry excuse for an admin".
With the wide variety of on-line players, I have always found it beneficial to treat people the way I wish to be treated. I believe any chat transcript from 24-7 Beach I was involved in would bear this out.
I am beyond letting this bother me. After finding out what kind of person Mr. Zog is, I would be happy not to exchange
words with him again. It's not exactly a fair trade.
In response to the Zoloft Kid--First of all, I commend you on your level of writing skill. Yet another example of how decieving a name can be.
Really, I think it's kinda cool. Without it I would be calling Mr. Zog an industrial strength shithead nine different ways.
thanks and happy gamming
tzk
- Keekanoo
by Keekanoo » Tue Jun 24, 2003 4:55 pm
"Friends are people we like despite their faults".
I like you Zog. :p
Woven among the fabric of that self-portrait you painted, Zog, that gnarly junk-yard dog, that flea-infested, broken tailed, one-fanged, red-eyed, foul-haliotosed, mean, nasty, bullyish, selfish, psychotic mongrel --well, why go on-- is a humorous guy. A guy who has not only a quick sense of humor, but a subtle sense of social wisdom. A mind clever enough to deftly, with but a few simple key-strokes, deliver that wisdom with alacrity and clarity.
Zog isn't perfect. 'Let he who has not sinned take my wife out for dinner tonight' or something like that. To consistanly place high in the scores, if not almost always at top (lets look aside from the fact that, as Axis, Zog gets most of his points from being a sewer-rat with venom dripping from his cancerous maw, or as Allie being a med and bee-lining for the objective and wracking up endless points just touching the precious docs for a brief second) AND perform his job as admin demands an exacting amount of discipline and intensity. ANYone trying to do all that is bound to get a little nasty at times.
I get pestered by people who want me to do them special in-game favours all the time. Some I ignore--especially if they don't get the hint first or second time around, but most I patiently take the time to explain to them why I'm neutral and why I'm not there for their personal kicks. This takes time. This is annoying. It is also annoying to 'wolfplayer, don't block the spawn'.....then !kick wolfplayer Spawn block. This takes time: Time I could be using to enjoy the game and witty reparte of my comrades and peers.
Zog, ever since that awkward time he downed a whole bottle of sleeping pills, called 911 and screamed: "I'm not calling Medic! or I need Ammo! EVER AGAIN" then turned the bottle around and saw, in colorful letters 'Pop Tarts' has been loathe to get too worked up. Thus, he doesn't take the annoying moments it takes me to write something nice and cozy like "Wolfplayer please don't fire your faust in the spawn door." He bites first and growls after, as befitting any self-respecting junk-yard dog, and gets on with playing with his bone.
One doesn't need to know Zog in person to know that he probably wears cool sun glasses, perhaps like the ones worn in Matrix. And if he doesn't, he should.
There is a poll in the ECGN forums 'Who's the coolest player'...of which Zog is currently leading. There is good reason for that. 'Cool' isn't nice. When was the last time anyone ever met a nice cool guy? Cool guys start out practising their arcane art leaning menacingly against hydro-poles outside of variety stores, work through leaning menacingly against walls at pool-halls and finally slouch menacingly in motorized wheel-chairs, a grimacing skull-and-bones flag fluttering defiantly above.
Perhaps if we made a 'who's the nicest guy in Beach' poll, Zog wouldn't win. But that's ok. He's cool. And he's got a good sense of humor. I know that whilst reading this he's alternately chuckling and hitting the tiger-stuffy he keeps beside his monitor.
I like you Zog. :p
Woven among the fabric of that self-portrait you painted, Zog, that gnarly junk-yard dog, that flea-infested, broken tailed, one-fanged, red-eyed, foul-haliotosed, mean, nasty, bullyish, selfish, psychotic mongrel --well, why go on-- is a humorous guy. A guy who has not only a quick sense of humor, but a subtle sense of social wisdom. A mind clever enough to deftly, with but a few simple key-strokes, deliver that wisdom with alacrity and clarity.
Zog isn't perfect. 'Let he who has not sinned take my wife out for dinner tonight' or something like that. To consistanly place high in the scores, if not almost always at top (lets look aside from the fact that, as Axis, Zog gets most of his points from being a sewer-rat with venom dripping from his cancerous maw, or as Allie being a med and bee-lining for the objective and wracking up endless points just touching the precious docs for a brief second) AND perform his job as admin demands an exacting amount of discipline and intensity. ANYone trying to do all that is bound to get a little nasty at times.
I get pestered by people who want me to do them special in-game favours all the time. Some I ignore--especially if they don't get the hint first or second time around, but most I patiently take the time to explain to them why I'm neutral and why I'm not there for their personal kicks. This takes time. This is annoying. It is also annoying to 'wolfplayer, don't block the spawn'.....then !kick wolfplayer Spawn block. This takes time: Time I could be using to enjoy the game and witty reparte of my comrades and peers.
Zog, ever since that awkward time he downed a whole bottle of sleeping pills, called 911 and screamed: "I'm not calling Medic! or I need Ammo! EVER AGAIN" then turned the bottle around and saw, in colorful letters 'Pop Tarts' has been loathe to get too worked up. Thus, he doesn't take the annoying moments it takes me to write something nice and cozy like "Wolfplayer please don't fire your faust in the spawn door." He bites first and growls after, as befitting any self-respecting junk-yard dog, and gets on with playing with his bone.
One doesn't need to know Zog in person to know that he probably wears cool sun glasses, perhaps like the ones worn in Matrix. And if he doesn't, he should.
There is a poll in the ECGN forums 'Who's the coolest player'...of which Zog is currently leading. There is good reason for that. 'Cool' isn't nice. When was the last time anyone ever met a nice cool guy? Cool guys start out practising their arcane art leaning menacingly against hydro-poles outside of variety stores, work through leaning menacingly against walls at pool-halls and finally slouch menacingly in motorized wheel-chairs, a grimacing skull-and-bones flag fluttering defiantly above.
Perhaps if we made a 'who's the nicest guy in Beach' poll, Zog wouldn't win. But that's ok. He's cool. And he's got a good sense of humor. I know that whilst reading this he's alternately chuckling and hitting the tiger-stuffy he keeps beside his monitor.
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