What happens when you die?

by **Odd Ball** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 11:14 am

What happens after you die is a mystery but I pretty sure you atone for your actions in life. Maybe not to God per say but as a process to move on or respawn as someone has said.

A friend of mine passed away some years back and I had lost touch with him at the time. I started thinking about him and some of my actions toward him and his actions towards me and a few days later I read in the paper that he was killed in a car accident. That just freaked me.

Is it possible that the process after life can affect the living?:eek:

by **[U.S.C] Amaryl** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:15 pm

no, it is....., opps, wait a moment..... damn it, it was something stuck on my glasses...

by **[U.S.C] Amaryl** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:17 pm

Originally posted by Evan
When you die you know what happens?

You die.

hey, Are you sure?
I´m not, that is a very difficult and important step to make...

by **ShipWreck** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:43 pm

who know's.. maybe its like your sleeping? i have no clue, have never been dead before. dunno if thier is a "god".. i just keep believeing their is.. what do i have to loose, dont think about it.. i'm here for a good time not a long time

by **Keekanoo** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 6:38 pm

Ahhh..the bread and butter question of almost every religion ever created. The Carrot Before the Ass.

What amazes me in working this question over the years is how many people, either from their own arrogant self-importance, or from the constant brain-washing of religious dogma, believe that their 'personality' must go on.

Personality is a construct of the mind created to interface with reality. Specifically for most, human reality. The mind has to balance the individuals inherent genetic traits/potentials and the requirements of the social state the person is born into.

All of that goes *poof* when we die. Why? Because there's no more mind to fuel it. The body dies, the personality dies. The big black. The Empty. The non-existant.

Now that's not to say I don't believe in souls. Which I do. And which I think are entities completely seperate and unique from each persons 'personality'.

What happens to the soul? Dunno.

I only wanted to clarify a point that's long irked me o.O People through time believe their personalities are their souls.

I listened to a doctor a while ago who explained the whole 'white-light-tunnel' phenomena--a phenomena which has played no end of mischief in furthering the ends of various religious fanatics. Apparently as we die the body uses up the last bits of oxygen. Slowly the system gets inundated with carbond dioxide and all the other nasty things we normally kick out with our lungs. There is a chemical reaction in the ocipital ganglia where it starts fireing off like crazy--a death spasm, if you will--making the unfortunate victim 'see white'.

And that was my hardly relevant or helpful input.

by **[U.S.C] Amaryl** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 8:06 pm

Amen!

by **Cowgomoo** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 9:01 pm

i, personally, think that the (more realistic) dreams are memories of ur past life, just a guess though...

by **MeatShield** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 9:37 pm

Keek, I'm curious to what your feelings are about spirits and celestial beings... (like ghosts), and other unexplainable feelings like knowing you should not be in a particular room, and not knowing why...

by **Evan** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 9:58 pm

Sometimes I get really strong feelings of deja vu.

by **Jeffro** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:36 pm

hmm...a topic that is not retarded and makes us think! yay!

by **DrunkenDruid** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:52 pm

Keekanoo. You sure know who's the hammer and who's the nail. GOOD JOB. I could not have said it better. I'm so sorry to see the misguided being lead like so many sheep to the slaughter with out seeing what life really has, and every moment has to offer.
You can never go back (as of yet).
So think back to a mistake and what it did to you or others and how you really can't change that. So to the young think? A little before you act and remember.
Life is really so short.
Really we don’t come back it’s impossible. But we do hang around as energy and were will that take us? Who knows?

Opps fogot my color:lol: S.S. {Elite} Druid

by **[U.S.C] Amaryl** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 8:09 am

maybe the Gaia Theory is what we are meaning now?

by **[U.S.C] Amaryl** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 8:11 am

sometimes thinking and using our brain is better than keeping fragging someone else...

by **Sannop** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 11:50 am

Originally posted by Keekanoo
Ahhh..the bread and butter question of almost every religion ever created. The Carrot Before the Ass.

What amazes me in working this question over the years is how many people, either from their own arrogant self-importance, or from the constant brain-washing of religious dogma, believe that their 'personality' must go on.

Personality is a construct of the mind created to interface with reality.

I have no strong opinion on religion, death, etc etc. I do not mean for this to sound as an attack it is really more of a neutral observation. Personally I am a science person (nuclear power plant operator turned physics teacher) that was finally "touched" by some form of spirituality while at a zen temple in Japan. I have no answers, only belief and observation. I also know that logic tells us that belief can always be wrong.

I find the statement that other people's beliefs must be based in arrogance or brain-washing to be very judgemental. A judgement on a value system can not be supported with empirical data, only on personal belief. (i.e. opinion)

Therefore that statement is very hypocitical. It takes a level of arrogance to completely disrepect other views on an issue that is completely based on belief.

One's views on death and religion can not be, for the most part, rationally defended. It is a personal quest for answers that drives many, but never believe that your answers are the "true" ones. That has led to too many wars and has been used as a justification for too many horrible acts.

Arrogance is thinking that your opinion must be correct. I love a good converstaion with anyone, from any belief sytem, that can respect the other person even when they completely disagree.

Also, I feel that many can not "follow" any organized religion out of their own arrogance.

by **{CN}Doomfarer** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 2:18 pm

Originally posted by [U.S.C] Amaryl
sometimes thinking and using our brain is better than keeping fragging someone else...

Just don't try and mix those activities...

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