Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:59 am
WORDS FROM THE LEADER: Get em' boys!!!!!!!! 
NOW! S.S.FIREKNIGHT
Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:02 am
Wow, after reading all these post I have a headache. I too was one of the original players on OC48 24/7 beach server and I too remember what great fun it was before so many useless and nonsense changes were made. This is one of the reasons I quickly made the change to ET. I feel that there are so many people here that I would love to meet in a dark ally and pummel the crap out of for being stupid.
What a bunch of useless post based on nonsense. I agree with OSPREY hold heartily about several points he made in his post. I think a lot of you forgot why we played every night because your egos were to busy being inflated. Admining is a great responsibility and should not be taken lightly. It’s funny I almost want to say that an age limit should be put on it. However, since most of you don’t have the mental maturity of a five year old it would really limit the number of available people to act as admins. (Power Corrupts All)
I also agree Keek you have to be the dumbest person I have ever known existed on this planet. You are an embarrassment to humans and the freedoms that we practice in this country. Don’t ever condemn anyone for not agreeing with you Smacktard. You wouldn’t know the first thing about being an admin. You really could take a lesson from some of these people. Of course your ego won’t let you. And if you want to talk shit meet me in a server and you can watch me shot you in the head as many times as you like tard.
I have played with a lot of people on here and for the most part your decent people who like everyone else wants to have fun and kick some ass. I have recently joined the S.S. clan and I have never met a greater bunch of players in my life. Players that enjoy playing the game weather they are winning or losing, Players and Admins who make far and honest judgments as well as mistakes. Zog has always been a fair and awsome guy to play with or against in RTCW or ET. You would do good to really listen and try and understand what he is saying instead of always fireing back with some pathetic and rediculas remark further proving that children should not be allowed access to the internet.
Finally, yes everyone has their own right to voice their opinions about whatever Keek. However, I suggest you do a little research and find a little humility before you post on an open forum such as this. Otherwise, you will end up looking like a babbling idiot much the way you have since your first post.
Boc, forget any restrictions you may have considered before and put it back the way it was, the way it was when it was fun.
Now by all means post what ever stupid reply you wish I am done listening to the dribble that consumes this post. .
For I refuse to stand and listen to any man shout at the top of his lungs that which I would spend a lifetime shouting at the top of mine in protest…
Sorry, if this seems directed toward you Keek, but dude, you are an ass.
What a bunch of useless post based on nonsense. I agree with OSPREY hold heartily about several points he made in his post. I think a lot of you forgot why we played every night because your egos were to busy being inflated. Admining is a great responsibility and should not be taken lightly. It’s funny I almost want to say that an age limit should be put on it. However, since most of you don’t have the mental maturity of a five year old it would really limit the number of available people to act as admins. (Power Corrupts All)
I also agree Keek you have to be the dumbest person I have ever known existed on this planet. You are an embarrassment to humans and the freedoms that we practice in this country. Don’t ever condemn anyone for not agreeing with you Smacktard. You wouldn’t know the first thing about being an admin. You really could take a lesson from some of these people. Of course your ego won’t let you. And if you want to talk shit meet me in a server and you can watch me shot you in the head as many times as you like tard.
I have played with a lot of people on here and for the most part your decent people who like everyone else wants to have fun and kick some ass. I have recently joined the S.S. clan and I have never met a greater bunch of players in my life. Players that enjoy playing the game weather they are winning or losing, Players and Admins who make far and honest judgments as well as mistakes. Zog has always been a fair and awsome guy to play with or against in RTCW or ET. You would do good to really listen and try and understand what he is saying instead of always fireing back with some pathetic and rediculas remark further proving that children should not be allowed access to the internet.
Finally, yes everyone has their own right to voice their opinions about whatever Keek. However, I suggest you do a little research and find a little humility before you post on an open forum such as this. Otherwise, you will end up looking like a babbling idiot much the way you have since your first post.
Boc, forget any restrictions you may have considered before and put it back the way it was, the way it was when it was fun.
Now by all means post what ever stupid reply you wish I am done listening to the dribble that consumes this post. .
For I refuse to stand and listen to any man shout at the top of his lungs that which I would spend a lifetime shouting at the top of mine in protest…
Sorry, if this seems directed toward you Keek, but dude, you are an ass.
Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:38 am
LOL
Let the S.S. clan come out. But it isn't just the S.S. right?
Let us not deny the faust boys their say too.
*rolls up his sleeves....cracks his knuckles*
As I am unwilling to descend into lies, half-truths, name-calling, general inane comments and blind patriotism, I shall resort to clarity of facts as my defence.
First of all, regarding bans--I don't hand them out casually, and have clear statements about this in the Beach admin thread. Also, there is a guideline regarding a positive treatment and hospitable nature on the side of admins towards the people visiting the server. So refrain from trying to slander my name in that arena--I've done a lot of work to establish a fair admining practice at the Beach.
Molded the server with my own two hands? Hmm... I think you partly have me guilty on that score. I was granted the privelage of a higher admin status. With that comes a series of responsabilities. Guilty as charged. I do care. Sorry if you'd prefer some kind of rogue sporadic drunken pirate-ship captain approach, but it isn't me. Steady as she goes now.
Tool...only you and I know the nature of our conversation that night when I kicked you. It's unfortunate that you've skewed it the way you have. The truth is somewhat different, but never proveable so I'll let that one rest.
As for changes along the way to the settings on the Beach.... Apparently it suffers something called 'evolution'.
Ever ask yourself why ECGN uses the Shrub mod/s? Because it offers more than what the basic game delivered. People have sat back throughout human history and looked at simple things--things like rocks and thought...hmm...if this was round, it would roll better.... Now, others might think that a square rock rolled perfectly fine... but I'm kind of glad that the guy went ahead and chipped the rock round. Call me crazy and a control freak, but there ya go.
As for you Fireknight, I acted on something called democracy (look it up) when I approached Boc about the faust changes. It became clear to me over a period of time, from observing game dynamics, and by the amount of people--the majority--who approached me about getting it changed that something needed to be done. Do some research yourself--the faust polls go back MONTHS with MANY pages in a variety of threads about it.
Regarding the Beach being a breeding ground for skilled players.... this is possibly true, I don't know. But I think it's safe to say that these 'skilled' players who no longer play at the Beach do so because they seek out servers with far more stringent controls than what the Beach uses. Things like no fausts. Headshots only. Normal med charge-bars. Less lives. Weapons causing more damage. Friendly fire on. etc etc.
A lot of those implementations would not be appropriate for the Beach. What Boc does, I imagine, is sits back and tries to think of what a general paramater set would be appropriate for the Beach. Clearly the standard set doesn't work well there--look at the 63 slot potential for one thing. That extra 31 player slots creates a very different game dynamic potential than the original game was intended to play within. Naturally, things need to be tweaked.
If you don't like the Beach, enjoy whereever it is you play--if you have a family there, that's great. Please refrain from screaming at the top of your lungs about a different server and it's ogerish admining when you arn't even around to see what goes on.
Keek.
Let the S.S. clan come out. But it isn't just the S.S. right?
Let us not deny the faust boys their say too.
*rolls up his sleeves....cracks his knuckles*
As I am unwilling to descend into lies, half-truths, name-calling, general inane comments and blind patriotism, I shall resort to clarity of facts as my defence.
First of all, regarding bans--I don't hand them out casually, and have clear statements about this in the Beach admin thread. Also, there is a guideline regarding a positive treatment and hospitable nature on the side of admins towards the people visiting the server. So refrain from trying to slander my name in that arena--I've done a lot of work to establish a fair admining practice at the Beach.
Molded the server with my own two hands? Hmm... I think you partly have me guilty on that score. I was granted the privelage of a higher admin status. With that comes a series of responsabilities. Guilty as charged. I do care. Sorry if you'd prefer some kind of rogue sporadic drunken pirate-ship captain approach, but it isn't me. Steady as she goes now.
Tool...only you and I know the nature of our conversation that night when I kicked you. It's unfortunate that you've skewed it the way you have. The truth is somewhat different, but never proveable so I'll let that one rest.
As for changes along the way to the settings on the Beach.... Apparently it suffers something called 'evolution'.
Ever ask yourself why ECGN uses the Shrub mod/s? Because it offers more than what the basic game delivered. People have sat back throughout human history and looked at simple things--things like rocks and thought...hmm...if this was round, it would roll better.... Now, others might think that a square rock rolled perfectly fine... but I'm kind of glad that the guy went ahead and chipped the rock round. Call me crazy and a control freak, but there ya go.
As for you Fireknight, I acted on something called democracy (look it up) when I approached Boc about the faust changes. It became clear to me over a period of time, from observing game dynamics, and by the amount of people--the majority--who approached me about getting it changed that something needed to be done. Do some research yourself--the faust polls go back MONTHS with MANY pages in a variety of threads about it.
Regarding the Beach being a breeding ground for skilled players.... this is possibly true, I don't know. But I think it's safe to say that these 'skilled' players who no longer play at the Beach do so because they seek out servers with far more stringent controls than what the Beach uses. Things like no fausts. Headshots only. Normal med charge-bars. Less lives. Weapons causing more damage. Friendly fire on. etc etc.
A lot of those implementations would not be appropriate for the Beach. What Boc does, I imagine, is sits back and tries to think of what a general paramater set would be appropriate for the Beach. Clearly the standard set doesn't work well there--look at the 63 slot potential for one thing. That extra 31 player slots creates a very different game dynamic potential than the original game was intended to play within. Naturally, things need to be tweaked.
If you don't like the Beach, enjoy whereever it is you play--if you have a family there, that's great. Please refrain from screaming at the top of your lungs about a different server and it's ogerish admining when you arn't even around to see what goes on.
Keek.
Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:45 am
Thanks for once again proving my point. Another post of rambling nonsense full of Bull Shit! Created by the imagination of a child.
Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:56 am
[quote]Originally posted by Keekanoo
[B]LOL
Let the S.S. clan come out. But it isn't just the S.S. right?
Let us not deny the faust boys their say too.
*rolls up his sleeves....cracks his knuckles*
As I am unwilling to descend into lies, half-truths, name-calling, general inane comments and blind patriotism, I shall resort to clarity of facts as my defence.
This aint AOL dude grow up and just so you know you have done nothing but resort to lies, half-truths, name calling, all kinds of insane comments and i Seriously question your patriotism. Your not ready to face facts and that has been the problem dude.
[B]LOL
Let the S.S. clan come out. But it isn't just the S.S. right?
Let us not deny the faust boys their say too.
*rolls up his sleeves....cracks his knuckles*
As I am unwilling to descend into lies, half-truths, name-calling, general inane comments and blind patriotism, I shall resort to clarity of facts as my defence.
This aint AOL dude grow up and just so you know you have done nothing but resort to lies, half-truths, name calling, all kinds of insane comments and i Seriously question your patriotism. Your not ready to face facts and that has been the problem dude.
Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:07 am
Watching you two argue is making me laugh.
Personally, I think there is a balance somewhere. The purpose of this balance should be to have both the allies and axis to have an equal chance of winning.
I believe in the changes if that is what the MAJORITY of the people want. So far, I think it is.
S.S.SEETHER
Personally, I think there is a balance somewhere. The purpose of this balance should be to have both the allies and axis to have an equal chance of winning.
I believe in the changes if that is what the MAJORITY of the people want. So far, I think it is.
S.S.SEETHER
Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:07 am
If you don't like the Beach, enjoy whereever it is you play--if you have a family there, that's great. Please refrain from screaming at the top of your lungs about a different server and it's ogerish admining when you arn't even around to see what goes on.
Keek. [/B][/QUOTE]
_______________________________________________________
Well said Keek........ Now try taking your OWN advice
Keek. [/B][/QUOTE]
_______________________________________________________
Well said Keek........ Now try taking your OWN advice
Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:13 am
Originally posted by (SEETHER)
Watching you two argue is making me laugh.
Personally, I think there is a balance somewhere. The purpose of this balance should be to have both the allies and axis to have an equal chance of winning.
I believe in the changes if that is what the MAJORITY of the people want. So far, I think it is.
S.S.SEETHER
How DARE you not follow your leader
KICK him out.... You trader! !!:rotflmao:
Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:44 am
Regarding the Beach being a breeding ground for skilled players.... this is possibly true, I don't know. But I think it's safe to say that these 'skilled' players who no longer play at the Beach do so because they seek out servers with far more stringent controls than what the Beach uses. Things like no fausts. Headshots only. Normal med charge-bars. Less lives. Weapons causing more damage. Friendly fire on. etc etc.
UM .... THIS WAS SOMETHING KEEK SAID/
WTF are you talking about man????? Game Dynamics again?
I dont think you have the skills to determine what are and what aren't so called game dynamics. I mean come on .... honestly , what the hell are the GAME DYNAMICS on a 64 man beach server? I have asked this question since the first time you posted that dribble a few pages back. The main reason shrub is used is for its admin bots. the second reason is to make it easier for noobs.Changing all the limits ranks around the tenth reason it should be installed on a server. And Ill tell you this now we have shrub on all of our servers and we dont use limits at all. So what stringent controls do you refer too my confused friend?
Let me ask you this .... is it a more rewarding win when you run thru hell to win ..., or is it better to win when all weapons are turned off and people are looking at you run by?
UM .... THIS WAS SOMETHING KEEK SAID/
WTF are you talking about man????? Game Dynamics again?
I dont think you have the skills to determine what are and what aren't so called game dynamics. I mean come on .... honestly , what the hell are the GAME DYNAMICS on a 64 man beach server? I have asked this question since the first time you posted that dribble a few pages back. The main reason shrub is used is for its admin bots. the second reason is to make it easier for noobs.Changing all the limits ranks around the tenth reason it should be installed on a server. And Ill tell you this now we have shrub on all of our servers and we dont use limits at all. So what stringent controls do you refer too my confused friend?
Let me ask you this .... is it a more rewarding win when you run thru hell to win ..., or is it better to win when all weapons are turned off and people are looking at you run by?
Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:51 am
I have a question. If Boc ever were to make the server the way it was before would most of the originals come back and play it like before, or would you just post about how you like it and continue to play ET or different RTCW servers? I dont see the point in going back if people arent going to play there. A lot of you want it back the way it was, but it would continue the petty bullshit day in and day out if you didnt even come back and play here. It would be even dumber if say one of the originals left ET or what ever game your playing to come back to the beach to find that none of the others were there and just leave because then all the changes would be made to the server again and again. On the poll I made for no holds barred beach it was 17 to 8, in favor of no holds barred beach. But that poll was for a one day thing. I dont know how people feel about making a no holds barred beach a permenint thing. Not to cause a huge explosion but say you were in my shoes, I have been playing at the server for a little over a year, all the originals wanted the beach the way it was. And you havent even met any of the originals except one because they are off playing ET or in a huge TWL clan..etc etc. And they wanted this no holds barred beach. How is this "new generation" at the beach going to trust the words of a person they have not met to come back and play at the beach? I know some of the originals they are very nice people but I am afraid if this no holds barred thing goes threw there will be no more genrations created, all the new commers now may leave and some of the originals may not stay because they dont like the people playing there now, like me.
And these lame ass arguments that take up half a page on this thread are so pointless. You can ramble on for paragraph after paragraph but thats not how your point gets across here no one wants to waste there time to read a friggen essay with "big vocabulary" thats makes people feel special. Just make it short and sweet when fighting, obviously my post here is long but it is not a fight with anyone.
And these lame ass arguments that take up half a page on this thread are so pointless. You can ramble on for paragraph after paragraph but thats not how your point gets across here no one wants to waste there time to read a friggen essay with "big vocabulary" thats makes people feel special. Just make it short and sweet when fighting, obviously my post here is long but it is not a fight with anyone.
Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:59 am
Also I do not know many of the staff here at ECGN but the ones I have met are very nice and I am sure they would bend over backwards for all the plaers here. Making changes on the server I am sure they wouldnt mind but they will probably need the majority wanting this change.
Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:02 am
oh no i wont be a permanent fixture. th ewife plays there more than i do, the point is that when the idea came up about a one day a week event, the powers that be said it was "stupid". so that is when the argument started. saying how beach is better now is a insult to all the players that played there long before any of you folks came along. with your this and that limit.... BAH wanna show skill take it back to no limits and get your ass on the beach. dont boycott cause it will bring your almighty stats downn one day. STATS MEAN NOTHING, on a server filled with so many people.
Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:05 am
If I remember correctly in the panzer limit thread I had said "no holds barred" in one of my posts. From there MMmmGood made a thread for a one day a week thing. I think I would probably lmao if they ever made it back the way it was because of all the carnage and people whining about there stats and kill ratio being low. I am sure I would get mad the first week being owned by panzers, air strikes, venoms, flamers etc but after a while we would all get used to it and maybe be another good generation made from the carnage of "Muther Fucking Beach".
Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:07 am
like i said before no time to count headshots!!!
Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:59 am
Dont know why I am posting here, it has nothing to do with me, but I must say the name calling and down-right nastiness always draws me in, like a shark to chum.
The bad thing is, I cant say a bad word about anyone
I've gotten along with Keek, although I totally disagree with almost everything he posts (doesnt make him a bad guy)
Zog has always been "The Man" in my book, took me from being a total nOOb, to the sub-par player I am today (can only do so much with what you got)
But the person that has made the most sense, is Nazi Killer. Sure I loved Beach the way it was in the beginning, but I had left before the limits took effect and I would never go back if they were to revert to the old ways.
Now, after posting such nice things, I must go puke
The bad thing is, I cant say a bad word about anyone
I've gotten along with Keek, although I totally disagree with almost everything he posts (doesnt make him a bad guy)
Zog has always been "The Man" in my book, took me from being a total nOOb, to the sub-par player I am today (can only do so much with what you got)
But the person that has made the most sense, is Nazi Killer. Sure I loved Beach the way it was in the beginning, but I had left before the limits took effect and I would never go back if they were to revert to the old ways.
Now, after posting such nice things, I must go puke